I must say I'm not convinced. The problem with new drivers (for which read young male new drivers mostly) is not that they they don't know the mechanics of driving but that they misuse them or get themselves into situations (eg by driving too fast) where their inexperience tells. I'm not sure how a more difficult test would help this.
Do not see that it would make any difference, not all get through first time anyway. Loads go for the concentrated courses these days because you need transport for work here in the valleys and most job applications are request that you are a car/owner/driver. It is more often the misuse as Martin says by speeding. Maybe they should not be allowed to carry passengers for the first year, sometimes young drivers can be egged on by their mates to put their foot down especially if the passenger have had a drink even if you are sober. _________________ Mai Duw yn ddarpar y'r brain
What are needed are laws/rules that are practical and enforceable.
Rules such as requiring that `new drivers` do not carry passengers or drive vehicles of limited power etc. would be difficult to enforce.
How would anyone know how long the driver had held a licence?
Perhaps requiring that drivers display their licence in the windscreen, thereby enabling anyone to see that they at least have a licence, would be a good start.
What are needed are laws/rules that are practical and enforceable.
Perhaps requiring that drivers display their licence in the windscreen, thereby enabling anyone to see that they at least have a licence, would be a good start.
Nice idea but it doesn't meet your criteria really since it would mean having to swap your licence between cars if you had more than one car or wanted to drive someone else's.
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: Displaying licences
I think Skydog had a very good idea. Drivers should display their licences. And as for the problem of swapping cars, I was an ADI for many years and as such I taught in both manual and automatic cars and had to transfer my ADI licence, which had to be displayed in the windscreen, to whichever car I was using at the time.
I found it no hardship or problem.
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How would this help exactly? I can see a lot of sense in adopting the French law of having to display evidence of insurance on your windscreen. This relates to the car itself so if it is parked etc then the evidence can be viewed.
The licence though relates to the driver. If the car is being driven it can't be seen obviously, unless you have VERY good eyesight! If it is parked then it isn't relevant as no one is driving it. If the car is stopped by the police etc then surely it makes more sense for the driver to have to carry a licence rather than have it displayed in the car?
Having said that I don't see how that would help improve driving behaviour since most of the drivers causing problems are licenced anyway so proving it would be no problem and no deterrent.
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: Displaying licences
martyn142 wrote:
If the car is being driven it can't be seen obviously, unless you have VERY good eyesight!
Are you then saying that current tax discs cannot be seen when a vehicle is moving or an ADIs licence cannot be seen?
Surely one of the main offences the magistrates courts deal with on a regular basis are drivers who do no have a licence.
Requiring that licences be displayed would be a good thing and yes I do agree that evidence of insurance should also be displayed.
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Displaying licences
[quote="martyn142"]
Terry wrote:
Of course they can't!
Try looking at the passenger side of any School of Motoring car that you see approacing you.
Very clearly you will be able to see the instructors ADI licence (it's a green square) and a tax disc (it's round).
If you can't see them then I suggest you consult an optition before continuing to drive!
Of course you can see they are there but what good is that???
You are no doubt aware that you have to display a VALID ADI licence not just a green square and a VALID road licence not just a round piece of paper. If you can see that both are valid as a car passes you at 30mph (or more likely 50mph) then were you reconstructed at a cost of $6 million?
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: Display driving licences
So what about vehicles waiting at Junctions/Traffic Lights/Pedestrian crossings etc.?
Surely a driving licence, or for that matter any other valid document being displayed, would be clearly readable
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