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clem



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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Ebbw Vale rail link ! Reply with quote

So,  after many years of planning, being let down and finally achieving a rail link to the Capital, the powers that be ( RICS ) now decide that the rail link  is worthy of the " Welsh Project of the year Award " !!!
18 miles of track being upgraded, 6 stations built, extensive landscaping to mention but a few, yet they forget that if you live in Abertillery or " Significant Other towns, you have to make your own way there because they have taken away the free transport to and from them, how are older people or people on lower incomes supposed to manage this ?
Perhaps they'll spend the next decade or so planning their next jolly just after the opening of the link to Newport " City " station ! [/b]


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll annoy you even more now clem ( hi, btw ).

It's only 16 miles and a few chains - hence it ends at Victoria, not nearer EV town centre.

Good project that - run a railway between two places - and one end needs a bus service to link it to the town.

Good project - let a company that specialises in road building build the base for a rail track - hence the delay partially caused by H & S issues.
( Roads don't often have fences around them - how many railways do you see that don't have some form of barrier when they pass through built-up areas ? )

Anyway, what was the commendation ?
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it suits one , one year old councillor, Llanhilleth is in Abertillery, when it suits his facile arguments better it is not. According to more orthodox thinking Llanhilleth is the most southerly of the four Abertillery wards and therefore it could be said that Abertillery has a railway station, but has lost its feeder buses. I, like the saner elements of the  present council administration will, however, continue to campaign for a rail link to Abertillery town, the extention to Ebbw Vale town is already a given.
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hedleymccarthy wrote:
.........continue to campaign for a rail link to Abertillery town, the extention to Ebbw Vale town is already a given.


The Abertillery link will never be built so don`t waste your time. Stick to street lighting. I wasn`t aware the Ebbw Town link was a `given`. I had observed that the most recent reports on the exciting things coming to the steelworks site appear to have omitted the words `railway station`.
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hedleymccarthy wrote:
When it suits one , one year old councillor, Llanhilleth is in Abertillery, when it suits his facile arguments better it is not. According to more orthodox thinking Llanhilleth is the most southerly of the four Abertillery wards and therefore it could be said that Abertillery has a railway station, but has lost its feeder buses. I, like the saner elements of the  present council administration will, however, continue to campaign for a rail link to Abertillery town, the extention to Ebbw Vale town is already a given.


By the same orthodox reasoning then Ebbw Vale also has a railway station so how do you justify it meriting two?  Why have you and your fellow executives in the past continued to give Ebbw Vale more support and priority over your own wards? If your administration had campaigned equally on behalf of the electorate that voted for you at the time then planning for a station at Abertillery or at least Aberbeeg would also be given.

Where were you when the original planning was being implemented? Why was the station proposed for Llanhilleth and not Aberbeeg which has the greater access to bus services between valleys like Cwmbran and Pontypool as well as regular services to Trinant, Oakdale, Abertillery, Blaina and Brynmawr as well as Ebbw Vale?

If Llanhilleth is part of Abertillery then there should be no need for you to claim travelling expenses whilst conducting your civic duties in and around Abertillery, you can walk.
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Ian



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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me thinks Hedley was just using his own 'facile' argument to have a pop at Rocke again,it's about all he manages to acheive on here of late.Perhaps he believes his orthodox thinking will attract more support.....and he thinks he 's in the sane element...........I think not Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditto IAN
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Ebbw vale rail link Reply with quote

Hi Rocke,

Ta for your comments, it appears to me, and others, that a certain councillor realises that there would be a problem with this rail link maybe from day 1, and now that it has been brought to light - yet again, he is on the back foot, as it were, it is a good service for those that need it, even if you have to travel 2 miles from Ebbw town centre to get the train, however when the bus service from abertillery is in operation, we will all be able to get free bus passes, as we will be of a pensionable age !

By the way the award was from the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors !
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hedley McCarthy was out jogging one day and sees a little boy with a box.

Curious, he runs over and says "What's in the box kid?"

The little boy says "Kittens and they're brand new".

Hedley laughs and asks "What kind of kittens are they?"

"Labourites," the boy answers.

"Oh that's cute," says Hedley and he runs off.

A couple of days later Hedley and Special Agent Smith are running together and they spy the same boy with the same box.

Hedley tells Smith that they have to check out the kittens, and they run over to look.

Hedley asks the boy to tell Smith what kind of kittens they are.

"Independents," the boy says.

"Whoah!" Hedley says. "I came by here the other day and you told me they were Labourites. What's up?"

"Well," the boy says, "their eyes are open now."
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hedleymccarthy wrote:
When it suits one , one year old councillor, Llanhilleth is in Abertillery, when it suits his facile arguments better it is not. According to more orthodox thinking Llanhilleth is the most southerly of the four Abertillery wards and therefore it could be said that Abertillery has a railway station, but has lost its feeder buses. I, like the saner elements of the  present council administration will, however, continue to campaign for a rail link to Abertillery town, the extention to Ebbw Vale town is already a given.


Well whichever one you are, you should be aware that I've as much experience trying to sort out problems left behind by Cllr. McCarthy and his cohorts as Cllr. McCarthy has in opposition.

Time will tell and the people will decide which of us adapts best to their new roles.

Funny itsn't it ?
In one year I've uncovered facts about the Abertillery rail link that have been in the public domain for all to see for the past 4 or 5 years and certainly facts that should have been known to those who were running the council.  Ineptitude at best.
In one year this administration has taken action regarding the education of our children ( something I have practical experience in - parenting ), due to circumstances that should have been apparent years ago.
And there's one advantage of being only 'one year old' - one can't be a dinosaur.

The Labour Flock, for that's what some decent people have been turned into by the crazy, even lemming-like strategy foist on them by HQ, led by sheep in wolves clothing must realise that The Party has to adapt or perish, such is the way of evolution.
Lions led by a dinosaur that dwells on the past comes to mind.

Anyway, I'll wager that in 3 years time my public life won't have ended.
And hopefully I'll be there at the count to watch the electorate give the last rites to those who have failed them.
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saeson wrote:
hedleymccarthy wrote:
.........continue to campaign for a rail link to Abertillery town, the extention to Ebbw Vale town is already a given.


The Abertillery link will never be built so don`t waste your time. Stick to street lighting. I wasn`t aware the Ebbw Town link was a `given`. I had observed that the most recent reports on the exciting things coming to the steelworks site appear to have omitted the words `railway station`.


Yes Saeson - someone, somewhere decided that a NEW RAIL TRACK, distance just over a mile, would be built to take the link closer to Ebbw Vale.

And yes NO-ONE IN THIS COUNCIL DID OR HAS KICKED UP A FUSS THAT IT WOULD TAKE LESS TRACK TO PROVIDE THE ABERBEEG-ABERTILLERY LINE.

Now why do you think that was/is ?

Oh - and it was a fait accomplis over a year ago.
( Shouldn't have said that, because now Jeremiah won't try it on, realising that I'm here lying in wait.................
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: rail link Reply with quote

Mr McCarthy,

When you had been in office for 1 year, did you experience anyone saying to you that you were only a 1 year old councillor ? I very much regret it, but perhaps you now feel that you are in a position to " talk down " to people ,who in my eyes, ARE giving a true reflection on past events rgarding the rail link, because you have served for a long time, as it was said, let the voting do the talking !
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carolyn wrote:
hedleymccarthy wrote:
When it suits one , one year old councillor, Llanhilleth is in Abertillery, when it suits his facile arguments better it is not. According to more orthodox thinking Llanhilleth is the most southerly of the four Abertillery wards and therefore it could be said that Abertillery has a railway station, but has lost its feeder buses. I, like the saner elements of the  present council administration will, however, continue to campaign for a rail link to Abertillery town, the extention to Ebbw Vale town is already a given.


By the same orthodox reasoning then Ebbw Vale also has a railway station so how do you justify it meriting two?  Why have you and your fellow executives in the past continued to give Ebbw Vale more support and priority over your own wards? If your administration had campaigned equally on behalf of the electorate that voted for you at the time then planning for a station at Abertillery or at least Aberbeeg would also be given.

Where were you when the original planning was being implemented? Why was the station proposed for Llanhilleth and not Aberbeeg which has the greater access to bus services between valleys like Cwmbran and Pontypool as well as regular services to Trinant, Oakdale, Abertillery, Blaina and Brynmawr as well as Ebbw Vale?

If Llanhilleth is part of Abertillery then there should be no need for you to claim travelling expenses whilst conducting your civic duties in and around Abertillery, you can walk.


Llanhilleth  Area Regeneration Scheme as I'm sure you must be aware has cost almost £15 million. It includes the new St.Iltydds school which replaced the two Victorian schools of Ty'r Graig and Brynhyfryd, is state of the art and a source of pride to the pupils, parents, staff and Llanhilleth Councillors.  Smile
The Institute has been renovated and contains two new surgeries, a new library, internet cafe, conference and event facilities which are first class is appreciated by the community and the councillors that represent it. There is a new clubhouse and pavillion at Llanhilleth Park the sports clubs are pleased with this and so am I. Smile
The facilities can be accessed by a new road link from the A467, residents and visitors are happy with this and so am I. Smile
Swffryd school has been redeveloped on one site the pupils, parents and staff seem glad this has happened and so am I. Smile
Rail safety legislation prevented a station being built at Aberbeeg, however, its in my ward and I'm not complaining about that. Rolling Eyes
Commercial Road has been resurfaced and Blaencuffin will be in June I understand both residents and motorists agree with that and I do too.
What were you trying to say about representing my ward? Confused
Incidentally I walk every day in my ward and I don't claim travelling expenses Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hedley,have you changed your name to something like Louis Armstrong as you seem to be expert at blowing a trumpet.......your own that is anyway.Which is all very well but doesn't answer the question being asked.Without detracting from the improvements in Llanhilleth which I welcome as well,I think Clem was talking about Abertillery or even in the greater scheme of things Blaenau Gwent. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian wrote:
Hedley,have you changed your name to something like Louis Armstrong as you seem to be expert at blowing a trumpet.......your own that is anyway.Which is all very well but doesn't answer the question being asked.Without detracting from the improvements in Llanhilleth which I welcome as well,I think Clem was talking about Abertillery or even in the greater scheme of things Blaenau Gwent. Rolling Eyes

It answers the point Carolyn was seeming to make.



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