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thefamilyofb



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Ford  Reply with quote

I am looking for any relatives of the following family;

William Ford b.1863 Warrington, Lancs
Martha b.1872 Tredegar, Wales

Their children were;

Gladys Ford Unsure whether she exists or not
Ruby Rose Fordb.1890 Bridgend
Helena Ford b.1892 Abertillery
Chas Ford b.1896 Abertillery
William Ford b.1898 Abertillery
Thomas Ford b.1901 Swansea(my gt grandfather)

William and Martha were tailors in Abertillery, and are believed to have had their own business.

Martha is said to have died young of TB and the father was unable to cope with all the children and they were all sent to live with various friends and family, with Thomas being sent to live with my gt gt grandmother Beatrice Mary Richards, then Ellis (nee Ham). Thomas subsequently married Beatrice May Richards daughter of Beatrice Mary Richards. Thomas was a tin worker in Abertillery but after contracting TB had to leave the area, as I believe his home was provided by the mine, and he and his family moved to Brecon where Thomas died at Craig Y Nos Castle which had been turned temporarily into a hospital.

This is the only line of my family I have been unable to trace as there are very little family memories or records of Thomas’ family. If anything of the Ford family connection sounds familiar I would love to hear from you.

Renée
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Sian



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford name in Abertillery Reply with quote

My father Ronald Toombs grandfathers name was Thomas Ford who was a tailor in Abertillery during the 1930's. Before that time Thomas had a horse and cart business selling parafin. pots and pans etc. Unfortunately my father cannot remember his grandmothers first name. My fathers mother Gwendolyn Ford married Harry Toombs and they live in Pantypwdyn most of their married life. They later moved to Princess st.

Gwen as was she was most commonly known had three sisters Gladys Ford, Mable Ford and Ethel Ford. There was also two brothers Wyndam Ford and Cliff Ford.

Gladys lived on Blythe Street in Abertillery and she married a headmaster in Abertillery, his surname was Cook. Mable worked for her father in the womens tailor department of her fathers shop and lived with her father in Cromwell street. Mable remained a spinster and travelled the world. Ethel married into the Brown family.

Thomas Ford was also a choir master of Blaenau Gwent church in Abertillery and his daughter Ethel was the organist there.

Gladys and her husband adopted a child who nows lives in Western Super Mare.

I don't know if this information has any roots in your own research but I found it interesting that the Thomas Ford you were seeking information on was a Tailor in Abertillery too. We cannot recall any other man of this name owning a tailors shop there and put two and two together and may have made three, so if this is not of any help to you then we are sorry and hope that you find what you are searching for.

Best regards

Sian
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the 1911-1914 Kelly's Diectory, Thomas Ford, is listed as a china and glass dealer in Cromwell Street.

I have searched Kelly's and Morris's Directroy from 1861 to 1920 I could find no listings for William Ford.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:27 am    Post subject: Toombs Reply with quote

I have recently been on a search for more info on my Grandfather
Graham Toombs' family from Abertillery, Wales

I have found a relative who we share great grandparents Ernest and Elizabeth Toombs.

After World War 1, Ernest & Elizabeth Toombs, also Graham Toombs (my grandfather) parents, moved from Abertillery in Wales to Fulham London and that's where Ethel, (Bob Ford's) Grandmother met Leonard Newsom and married him in 1929.
He was also a Fulham resident. My grandfather worked for Osrams, the light bulb makers in Hammersmith but the company moved to Wembley in 1930 so they moved with them. In 1932 (Bob Ford's) Mother, Mary was born.
In 1953, She married William Ford, who came from Kilburn.
Is this a coincidence of the Ford link up or in either of your lineage?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Ford
Thomas Ford (my grandfather) married Agnes Rees  :
The following are their children:

Wyndham married  Mabel Tarrant.     ....     son
Clifford      .......       Hilda James.         ...      daughters
Bert.          .......        Ethel Llewellyn.    ....      sons
Ethel        ..........     Wyndham Brown. .....  . adopted a daughter
Gladys.    .......        Edwin Cook.         ......     adopted a daughter
Gwen.      .......         Harry Toombs.    .....      sons..
Mabel.      ......          Spinster
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:08 am    Post subject: Ford Reply with quote

Don't know if it helps but Wyndham Ford (Outfitter), and C. Ford (Outfitters Assistant) were both living at 24 Cromwell Street, 1922 ER.

Clifford Ford (Outfit Manager), 8 Ashfield Road, Abertillery, died 19 July 1969. You should be able to read that online in the London Gazette Archive published 19 August 1969, Issue number 44921, Page number 8654.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:42 pm    Post subject: Ford Reply with quote

Few Ford's I saw recently

William Ford 7 Preston Street 1913
William Henry Ford 26 Cromwell Street 1913
Thomas Ford 24 Cromwell Street 1913
Agnes Hannah Ford 24 Cromwell Street 1922
Bert Ford 24 Cromwell Street 1923
Wyndham Ford 24 Cromwell Street 1923
Clifford Ford 24 Cromwell Street 1925
Gwen Ford, 24 Cromwell Street 1929
Mabel Ford 24 Cromwell Street 1929.

Family living @ 24 Cromwell Street from 1930 surname Hayes.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 1:35 pm    Post subject: Ford Reply with quote

Clifford J Ford and Hilda E Ford, 8 Ashfield Road Abertillery (1958-1969).
Gentleman called John Gorman also lived there in 1958.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford Reply with quote

thefamilyofb wrote:
I am looking for any relatives of the following family;

William Ford b.1863 Warrington, Lancs
Martha b.1872 Tredegar, Wales

Their children were;

Gladys Ford Unsure whether she exists or not
Ruby Rose Fordb.1890 Bridgend
Helena Ford b.1892 Abertillery
Chas Ford b.1896 Abertillery
William Ford b.1898 Abertillery
Thomas Ford b.1901 Swansea(my gt grandfather)


My maternal grandfather was Albert Ford b.1903. His father was a tailor from Warrington Called William who married Martha Lloyd. He also only had one leg!
Albert married a Gladys which may be the the Gladys you are unsure of.
In my Ford tree I also have a Ruby Rose b.1890, Alina Annie b.1893, Chas b.1896, William b.1898, Thomas b.1901 and Eunice b.1908
So it would apear we are cousins.
I know very little about my great grandfather but I lived with Albert and Gladys in the 60's so I can tell you lots about them.
If you would like access to my tree please get in touch
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cardiff



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:34 pm    Post subject: Ford Reply with quote

Hi  stoob. I am part of the Ford family that you referred to April 2014.
As you say there were 3 sisters, Gladys, Ethel and Gwen but there were also 3 brothers. Wyndham, Bert, and Clifford.

Thomas Ford owned a tailors shop in Somerset Street until retirement.
 Mabel and Clifford bought the shop and split it into two separate units. Mabel stocked  mens accessories. Clifford kept the other unit as a tailors until he sold in the 1960s.

Wyndham owned a grocery shop in Tillery street

Thomas Ford lived with his wife Agnes and brought up their children at 24 Cromwell Street. On my Grandfathers death Mabel continued living there and was still living there in the 1970s. There was no-one by the name of Hayes living at that address  in the 1930s as Thomas Ford and family were living there from approx 1900 until the 1970s. Not sure when after 1970s  Mabel moved.
Clifford Ford moved with his family to Ashfield Road in 1956 and remained there until his death in 1969. His children had left home by then and his wife Hilda moved shortly afterwards to be near her children.
There was definitely no other person ie: (a John Gorman) living at this address between 1956 and 1970.
Bert Ford married  Ethel LLewellyn, spent some time in America and on return to the UK  settled in South of England.  I believe their sons remained in America.
As you state Gladys & Edwin Cook adopted a daughter (Esme)
Also Ethel & Wyndham Brown also adopted a daughter (Joy)

Gladys, Mabel and Clifford also  travelled to USA circa 1920s-1930s

Hope this helps to clear up your research for you.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:08 pm    Post subject: Toombs Reply with quote

Hi Sian, Your  fathers grandmothers christian name was Agnes. Thomas and Agnes were my grandparents. Unfortunately I don't remember my Grandmother as she died when I was very young. My Grandfather died when I was in my teens and I can remember him well.
Your grandparents Gwen and Harry Toombs ( my Aunt and Uncle )and  your father, Ronald( my cousin ) . We lived near your grandparents until I was 7 but then moved nearer to my grandfather. Still saw your grandmother regularly as she was a frequent visitor to Cromwell St. and was very close to Mabel her sister. Both your grandmother and Mabel came to my wedding.
I only  remember seeing your father a few times when I was young. If I remember rightly he was quite a bit older than me.
Hope this gives you the information you were looking for.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:43 am    Post subject: Ford Reply with quote

Hi "Cardiff", can only go on what's on the electoral registers regards people living at addresses such as John Gorman, but thanks for expanding the thread and I found the shops they had of interest.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:30 pm    Post subject: Ford Reply with quote

Hi Stoob, I believe the house was bought from a Mr Gorman. I think the error can be explained by the fact that electoral registers are not updated on a yearly basis thus his name would have remained until the new register was completed. I am glad you found the information I supplied interesting. Unfortunately I lost touch with the family so cannot add anything new from mid 1970.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:39 am    Post subject: Ford Reply with quote

Those registers were mostly updated February of each year but errors in many of the early ones. Believe Abertillery goes back to 1844 as part of Aberystruth.
They are mothballing a lot down Newport reference library as they cut back on staff and space, so I may have to take out a subscription to access other information I'm searching for.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:09 pm    Post subject: Ford Reply with quote

hi stoob, Is there any other info you are looking for concerning this family/relations that I may be able to help you with.  I have done a fair bit on my family tree. Just let me know, Bye

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