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Carolyn



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: Four schoolfriends die in crash Reply with quote

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/...0.stunned_by_an_awful_tragedy.php

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6114636.stm
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Brian



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: where will the blame be laid Reply with quote

A very, very sad loss but just where will the blame for this `accident` be lain.
No doubt people will shout `Dangerous road` but just what makes the road dangerous?
The simple fact is that no road is dangerous, it's the way drivers use the road that is dangerous.
As I said in the discussion about the `child seatbelt laws`, it's driver education that we need.
Maybe then we can stop this sad waste of life.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may be right Brian but wouldn't it be better to wait until after the inquiry which is to be held before apportioning blame to the driver? We know that the road wasn't icy for example but do we know if the car was defective in some way? I don't anyway. It may well be driver-error but I don't think we ought to leap to conclusions really.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

martyn142 wrote:
You may be right Brian but wouldn't it be better to wait until after the inquiry which is to be held before apportioning blame to the driver? We know that the road wasn't icy for example but do we know if the car was defective in some way? I don't anyway. It may well be driver-error but I don't think we ought to leap to conclusions really.


You are quite right. Martyn, about jumping to conclusions until the investigation is finished and all the facts are known. A person needs to be fairminded and willing to give the benefit of doubt until proven wrong.

Would you like to come to Vancouver and be a juror with me on the Robert Picton murder trial? They are going to need jurors like youself.
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Carolyn



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree the news of the accident is absolutly tragic and families, friends and the two survivors are no doubt still on in shock. It is far too early to apportion any blame to the driver until the investigation is compelete. Jumping to conclusions can initiate harmful rumours, the surviviors and families of all concerned need some time to come to terms with their tragic loss.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnnie wrote:
Would you like to come to Vancouver and be a juror with me on the Robert Picton murder trial? They are going to need jurors like youself.


Hi Johnnie - no you are welcome to that one! The information I've seen make me think you are going to be asked to look into some pretty gruesome details. Good luck with it Johnnie Smile
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Terry



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Brian was `jumping to conclusions`.
At no time did he apportion blame to the driver but all he did was make the point that whenever an `accident` happens people are always ready to blame the road!
And let us not forget that the car was a Vauxhall Corsa which is only suitable for a maximum of 5 persons to travel in but in this tragic `accident` it appears that there where 6 persons in the vehicle.
I totally agree with Brian in that this again screams `MORE DRIVER EDUCATION`
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Carolyn



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tributes to the girls can be left here.


http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/..._tributes_to_crash_girls_here.php
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject: Counselling follows crash deaths Reply with quote

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