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Ian Jones

A Rail link for Abertillery.

Well done to Antony Partridge and friends for kicking off the campaign for a railway for Abertillery.
Young people like Antony and his friends are a credit to the town, supported by Business owners and older residents of the Town.

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/...train_station_petition/?ref=var_0
WESTMINSTER

RAIL WAY

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE COUNCIL AND ASSEMBLEY HAVE A BIAS TOWARD EBBW VALE, ABERTILLERY CAN WAIT AS EVER,.
Rocke

I have mentioned this before, but I think it's worth putting it into every thread on this subject.

The original plans were for two links - EV - Newport and Aber - Cardiff.
Access to Newport from up here required a huge investment in signalling changes at the Gaer Junction, which (at that time) made a line to Newport uneconomic.

So, what did the Council and its mates in the Welsh Assembly do?
Yes - changed the goalposts.

And since nothing's changed, apart from it's now the Welsh Government, does anyone believe that the thinking of these dinosaurs has changed?

They wanted EV - Cardiff, they only managed to achieve Victoria - Cardiff, due to gross ineptitude in the planning and construction of what should have been all the way into EV (as proposed now).

In effect EV is having Aber's spur.
And to think that the Leader of the Council represents (does he still live there?) the ward that could benefit greatly from the work and the business.
Eddie legge

Nil Sine Labore

When it was repoted that the Ebbw Valley Rail Link from Ebbw Vale would have an extra carriage  for passengers Dave Rocke  was not at all impresed More money he said to be spent in Cardiff, no wonder we are in a mess
When I sugested that Rocke wasnt so very keen on having a have a Rail Station in Abertillery Ian Jones said at least Rocke is honest about it
Rocke

Re: Nil Sine Labore

Eddie legge wrote:
When it was repoted that the Ebbw Valley Rail Link from Ebbw Vale would have an extra carriage  for passengers Dave Rocke  was not at all impresed More money he said to be spent in Cardiff, no wonder we are in a mess
When I sugested that Rocke wasnt so very keen on having a have a Rail Station in Abertillery Ian Jones said at least Rocke is honest about it


And?

I repeat, in the forlorn hope that sooner or later I'll get through that Labour-brainwashed skull of yours (on the basis that the Good Lord did endow you with the contents that all human beings possess).

How many Return Tickets for the journey start in Cardiff?
Almost everyone who's happy about the service (apart from having to get to Victoria to use it) go from EV TO Cardiff ie. they are spending money in Cardiff, not EV.

Part of the reason is that EV has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to offer Cardiff people anything that they don't already have.

Abertillery, however, can offer them Heritage, areas of outstanding natural beaty/views, a world-renowned sight (Guardian) and history.

Put a spur up into Aber and people from Cardiff WILL come up here, WILL realise that we're not surrounded buy the aftermath of coalmining, WILL realise the part that people up here played in the Industrial Revolution, the Wars etc, and as a result OUR local economy will be reignited and thrive.

However, the dunderheads that allegedly run this council fail to see that.

In my opinion you missed your vocation in life, for you're thick enough to have been a councillor.
eddie smith

Re: Nil Sine Labore

[quote="Rocke:20928"]
Eddie legge wrote:
When it was repoted that the Ebbw Valley Rail Link from Ebbw Vale would have an extra carriage  for passengers Dave Rocke  was not at all impresed More money he said to be spent in Cardiff, no wonder we are in a mess
When I sugested that Rocke wasnt so very keen on having a have a Rail Station in Abertillery Ian Jones said at least Rocke is honest about it[/quote

In my opinion you missed your vocation in life, for you're thick enough to have been a councillor.


And there stands a man who knows
Ian

Hilarious,we now have two Eddies,wonder how many people it takes to keep that going......lol btw my second name is not Jones just in case you get confused Smile
eddie jones

Ian wrote:
Hilarious,we now have two Eddies,wonder how many people it takes to keep that going......lol btw my second name is not Jones just in case you get confused Smile


nothing hilarious about the name Jones.Why does everyone pick on Eddie legge . At least he tells the truth not like that closet Tory rocke . You'll all be smiling on the other sides of your faces when the labour party sorts out the mess the last lot left.Rocke was a disaster as a councillor. Thought he knew everything but he knee nothing. Just a big ego. Oh and goblins
Ian

The labour sort out the mess,now that's even more hilarious...hang on was that a pig that just flew past the window. If you're that confident in the Labour Party let's have some honest posts under some real names instead of just constant off post sniping.The proof of the pudding as they say is in the eating.Seems to me Politicians spend too much time ensuring they get the biggest slice of that pudding for themselves.

How many people does it take to change a light bulb....needs amending to how many Eddies does it take to write a post on here.
Rocke

Ian wrote:
The labour sort out the mess,now that's even more hilarious...hang on was that a pig that just flew past the window. If you're that confident in the Labour Party let's have some honest posts under some real names instead of just constant off post sniping.The proof of the pudding as they say is in the eating.Seems to me Politicians spend too much time ensuring they get the biggest slice of that pudding for themselves.

How many people does it take to change a light bulb....needs amending to how many Eddies does it take to write a post on here.


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Saeson

Ian wrote:
The labour sort out the mess,now that's even more hilarious...hang on was that a pig that just flew past the window. If you're that confident in the Labour Party let's have some honest posts under some real names instead of just constant off post sniping.The proof of the pudding as they say is in the eating.Seems to me Politicians spend too much time ensuring they get the biggest slice of that pudding for themselves.

How many people does it take to change a light bulb....needs amending to how many Eddies does it take to write a post on here.


Please don`t feed the troll. It only gives them a sense of worth.
Rocke

Good point that.
martyn142

They're just lashing out because they know their days are numbered. And that their household income is about to take a nosedive  Laughing
pimlico

rail/councillors

There was a time when councillors were un paid they did it for the good of the community,now they have an allowance they take it and little is done in return,also labour were in for 11 years what did they do for regenerating the valley ,[nowt.]

i wish the rail campaign well ABERTILLERY NEEDS BETTER THAN WE HAVE AT PRESENT, PERHAPS PEOPLE POWER OVER COUNCILLORS WILL WIN AT THE END OF THE DAY.
eddie jones

good news things are moving along http://m.southwalesargus.co.uk/ne...tillery_link____Blaenau_Gwent_AM/
martyn142

eddie jones wrote:
good news things are moving along http://m.southwalesargus.co.uk/ne...tillery_link____Blaenau_Gwent_AM/

Yes they are.

For Ebbw Vale that is. Not for us though unfortunately, or at least I should say not with our AM's help. He's made it clear we are second class citizens.

Interesting too that he says

"Without electrificationand the loop there could be no future development."

Now I don't recall Labour mentioning that electrification was a prerequisite for the station at Abertillery. So either they made a major omission at that time and could never have got the extension to Abertillery functioning, or this is just an obstacle our AM has come up with to justify not pressing for what was promised to us.

Epic fail. Must do better Sue.  Laughing
pimlico

rail

It just goes to show labour are not interested ,only in the allowances they get.
Rocke

And in comes Aberystwyth Al to try to save the day and deflect the flak that's coming from the direction of Abertillery.

Someone ask him if the original plan was Abertillery - Cardiff or not.
Let's see how much he really knows.

Also, make a note of his comments, copy the news article and then hit Nicholas Smith (he's a toff, don't let his 'call me Nick' approach fool you) when he's down here asking for everyone's vote next May.

Ask him if he agrees with Aberystwyth Al.

And to think the Leader of the Council is an Aberbeeg lad.

Oh - and the Executive Member for Regeneration (whose portfolio this comes under) is from Abertillery (and Clerk to the Town Council, who I presume want it as well).
eddie jones

Re: rail

pimlico wrote:
It just goes to show labour are not interested ,only in the allowances they get.


AND ROCKE WASNT?
eddie jones

Re: rail

pimlico wrote:
It just goes to show labour are not interested ,only in the allowances they get.


AND ROCKE WASNT?
martyn142

Re: rail

eddie jones wrote:
pimlico wrote:
It just goes to show labour are not interested ,only in the allowances they get.


AND ROCKE WASNT?

Implicit acceptance there of Labour's trough-feeding tendencies. The first stage on the path to recovery. Well done.
Rocke

Re: rail

eddie jones wrote:
pimlico wrote:
It just goes to show labour are not interested ,only in the allowances they get.


AND ROCKE WASNT?


I was very interested in the allowances that Labour councillors in particular got, especially in view of the very small amount of meetings they attended for getting them.

Anyone want some stats?
Rocke

Oh go on then:

2009-10, the first full year after the Electors Revolt that saw Independents take control of the council:

Cllr Hedley McCarthy, Leader of the Opposition Group (and hence of course a very busy man, although being unemployed otherwise) - membership of 3 committees, 28 out of a possible 37 attendances (76%), at an average cost of £761.91 per meeting.

Yours truly (a full-time working man then, based outside the Borough) - membership of 6 committees and 50 out of 69 (72%) attendances, average cost £378.27/meeting.

The average attendance rate for Labour councillors was 52.31% at a cost of £563.69/meeting.

The average attendance rate for the Independent Group councillors was 70.18% at a cost of £442.98/meeting.

No wonder we had a larger than average Council Tax increase last year.
The cost of Councillors Allowances etc. has probably gone up by an even greater percentage.

Next please !  Laughing

PS, typo edited out.
eddie jones

six committees 72% attendance and what did u do? Big fat zilch. Its quality that counts not quantity. The only thing you did was annoy your own independent group.  they tell me " a loose cannon".
stoob

A Rail Link to Abertillery

So enlighten us, what's your mans contribution to a railway station in Abertillery ?
martyn142

Re: A Rail Link to Abertillery

stoob wrote:
So enlighten us, what's your mans contribution to a railway station in Abertillery ?

Hedley's response to the station petition was to infer that Ebbw Vale's need was greater by using misleading language. To paraphrase - I'll dig out the actual wording if Eddie the Sheep wants - he said that Ebbw Vale currently has no station although there is one in Waunllwyd, and that there is not one in Abertillery town itself but there is one in the southern-most ward of Abertillery.

Of course the distance from Llanhilleth to Abertillery is much further than Waunllwyd to Ebbw Vale. A quite shameful attempt to mislead anyone who doesn't know the areas concerned.  Embarassed
Rocke

eddie jones wrote:
six committees 72% attendance and what did u do? Big fat zilch. Its quality that counts not quantity. The only thing you did was annoy your own independent group.  they tell me " a loose cannon".


Quality - McCarthy's 'quaility' was such that his own Group (of which he was purportedly the Leader) managed him during the big debates.

Basically never let him speak.

'Heart Attackgate' - the able Steve Thomas (allegedly Deputy Leader of the Labour Group) took the lead.

Budget debates - er.... the able Steve Thomas (allegedly Deputy Leader of the Labour Group) took the lead.

Some call him - stupidly in my view - 'headless'.
I regard him as brainless. You see, he clearly has a head, but no-one can contend - without a post mortem - that I'm wrong to say he hasn't got a brain.

But I appreciate the derision with which those who say 'headless' regard him, and hence in reality those people aren't that stupid.

Oh, and by the way - in that period brainless had use of the Civic Car(s) no less than 98 times.
Yours truly needed it just 7, despite attending more than twice the number of meetings.

Perhaps Cllr McCarthy should have learned to drive.

Or perhaps we should pity someone not blessed with the ability to ?
Mmmm - can't drive a car but thinks they have the ability to er... run a Council.

Do you drive Eddies ?   Laughing

Ps typos edited out.
I can't be that out of it at this early stage of the night.   Laughing  Laughing
Eddie legge

King of

Rocke why was it said Cllr Rocke King of the Petrol Pumps
Rocke

Re: King of

Eddie legge wrote:
Rocke why was it said Cllr Rocke King of the Petrol Pumps


Laughing
Ian Jones

m.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/12948822.Plans_for_new_Abertillery_railway_station_move_a_step_closer/

All down to the hard work of local people, Labour can take no credit in this well done Antony Partridge and all those involved.
stoob

A Rail Link for Abertillery

Let's hope Anthony can pull it off.
martyn142

I would imagine a major panic has set in at Welsh Labour's HQ after the recent election results in the valleys. Alun Davies must be experiencing squeaky bum time at the prospect of next year's WAG elections. If there is any bandwagon passing he'll be jumping on it, no question about that.
SonOfACynic

What odds will I get on "New New Labour of the Future" taking full credit???
Ian Jones

Yes Martyn, it's very strange how important Alun Davies now finds the Abertillery rail link.
If we get a rail link at Abertillery it will be down to people power and not a self serving ex minister from Aberystwyth.
He hasn't shown the least interest in the rail link, he has had many opportunities to speak up for it in the Senedd and only now since Labour have had a wake up call from the people of the UK is he showing interest.
Oh it probably has nothing to do with an election coming up in the near future where many Labour AM's could get their butts kicked.

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