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Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

I am an Old Boy of the school, long living in London.
Could somebody please tell me whether Mrs Ida Mounter who used to be the Latin mistress is still alive; or when she died? I have fond memories of her. Her husband was Headmaster, I think, at a neighbouring Secondary Modern School.
Many fond memories of Six Bells where we lived, and of the old St. Johns Church where Father Oscroft-Jones was Vicar.
Anthony Earl-Williams (Hampstead)
dragongirl

Hi Anthony,
  I went to Abertillery Grammar School and am from Sixbells . I must have been there before you because we were taught Latin by a Master
nicknamed Percy, can`t remember if this  was his actual name, He used to sweep up and down between the desks like a bird of prey in his black
gown.!!!!!
  Jim Mounter was the Headmaster of Bryngwyn school I can`t remember where Mrs Mounter taught before she moved to the  grammar school and I honestly can`t tell  you definately if she`s still alive. I do not go home to Abertillery much since my Mum died 6 years ago,
Did Rev Oscroft Jones live in Bryngwyn Road at one time?
 I guess you`ll  get someone along to answer your questions soon
 Regards
Uskside

dragongirl wrote:
Hi Anthony,
  I went to Abertillery Grammar School and am from Sixbells . I must have been there before you because we were taught Latin by a Master
nicknamed Percy, can`t remember if this  was his actual name, He used to sweep up and down between the desks like a bird of prey in his black
gown.!!!!!
  Jim Mounter was the Headmaster of Bryngwyn school I can`t remember where Mrs Mounter taught before she moved to the  grammar school and I honestly can`t tell  you definately if she`s still alive. I do not go home to Abertillery much since my Mum died 6 years ago,
Did Rev Oscroft Jones live in Bryngwyn Road at one time?
 I guess you`ll  get someone along to answer your questions soon
 Regards


Hello Dragon Girl / Anthony Williams
Iwas at Bryngwyn Secondary, Jim Mounter was our Geography and PE Teacher teacher 1956 / 1960 Mr Richardson was our Headmaster, Mrs Bennet his Secratory And mr James who taught Shorthand Mrs Cook was the Cookery Teacher ( she went  to live in Canada ) and Mr Blake the Music Teacher ( He went to live in America ) My Dad was the local Boot and Shoe Repairer (Six Bells) He used to repair some of the Teachers shoes
Miss Richards the English Teacher, Mr Snelgrove was our art Teacher
Is there anyone a Member of this site or Guest That was around at this time, and remembers the shoe shop Tossels or my Dad = Small It would be nice to hear from you.
David

Hi Uskside i remember Tossels shoe shop. I also remember the barbers shop next door. I dont go to Six Bells often now but i think the shoe shop is either a betting shop or a florists now. Cyril Blake passed away a long time ago in Miami.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Thanks Dragonfly.
I'm only just getting the hang of this system!
I think Jim Mounter may have gone on to be Headmaster at Gelli Crug and perhaps someone will confirm this.
I've seen Mrs Mounter in old photos of Abertillery Grammar so know she was there quite a long time.
Also fond memories of Miss Evans (Fan) who taught French, Geography and Spanish. I remember visiting her in Ebbw Vale hospital before she died. And there was Miss James who taught English and lived well into her 90s.
I last visited in 2009 but everything was different and so many old friends moved away; and of course friends of my parents dead and gone. I went to Brynhithell Cemetery and Cwmtillery Church Yard - how depressing is that!!
I tried to get into St. John's Church in Arael Street but it was locked and barred. Still, the mountains are as beautiful as ever and I even had a picnic on a lovely warm autumn day, overlooking the valley - many happy memories. We lived in Richmond Road. Does anyone remember Alan Higgins? We were good pals; he's my age and his family also lived in Richmond Road. I believe he played rugby for Abertillery and may be living at Aberbeeg. Blaenau Gwent Council seems to do much more for Ebbw Vale than it does for Abertillery. The Pontlottyn Building all derelict and all those empty shops.  Very sad.
Have one friend still there - Mrs Christine Tidey who is one of the local councillors for Cwmtillery. We were at school together. Her mother Nancy died two years ago and was "local" Mayor of Abertillery when quite elderly.
I hope to visit soon to pay my respects at the Miners' Memorial. I tell all my London friends about Six Bells and Abertillery. I ought to bring a party down!
Talking of the Grammar School, does anyone recall Neni Williams who taught Scripture? I think he lived into his 90s.
Father Oscroft-Jones lived in Windsor Road by the park.
My father was Harold who worked for many  years at the Ebbw Vale Steelworks and his father was Artimus Williams who was an official at the Tillery Collieries Company. I have the black slate/marble clock which was presented to him and my grandmother on the occasion of their wedding in August 1902. It still works and makes me think of my roots every day.
My grandmother was a Handy. Her niece Marion had the grocers in Somerset Street which used to be the Dorothy Tea shop.
So nice to have discovered this site.
Anthony
dragongirl

Hi Anthony
              Miss Amy Evans (Fanny French)to all pupils taught me French
a lovely lady but unable to keep a large class under control!!!
Miss James taught me English  this was in the early 50`s.
 Neni Williams lived at the bottom of Eastville Road all the years I lived
in Bryngwyn Road  I know he was a good age when he died.
  there was a Mr Handy taught in the Grammar School when I first went there but can`t remember which subject he taught.
. Old Age!!! doesn`t come alone
     Abertillery has certainly changed with lots of shops closed  but the Pontlottyn  is now a Weatherspoons pub and   won Best Pub Loos in Wales  award not long ago. Woolworths is now Iceland
Somerfield closed this month so only large shop is Tesco I agree some
parts are depressing but as my Mum used to say ¬its still Home wherever  you are.
Phillip T. Small

Uskside

You must be Stephen Small.. My grandfather, William Alfred was your father's Brother ?  They used to live up Cwm Nanty Groes before moving to Blenheim Road... Vi Tossell was their sister.....

Regards
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Hello, Dragongirl!
I've worked out you must be 10 years older than me!  I'll be 60 next month and I won't even get my London Transport Freedom Pass till I'm 61!
Funny, we all called "Fanny French" "Fan".  She was nice but, as you say, couldn't keep control. But weren't we all so much more polite in those days?  I am still hoping for news of Mrs Mounter, so if anyone reading this can recall anything PLEASE let me know.
I remember the Colliers bus going up Bryngwyn Road - near our back gate. It seemed an adventure going on that without parents! Can you remember the lovely (small) old bus that must have gone back to the 1930s? We children were always disappointed if the modern bus came!

Did you know Mr and Mrs Reg Vaughan? They lived at 10, Bryngwyn Road and were family friends. Reg Vaughan was my god-father. I kept in touch with Mrs Vaughan (Aunty Lil) to the end of her life in the 1990s. We were all staunch members of Saint John's Church in Arael Street.  It was very High Church.  When I was about 12/13 I said to my parents: "I don't want to go down to Mass this morning. Can't I just stay at home and play?"  The answer every week was: "No! You're going down to Mass whether you like it or not. What do you think Father Oscroft would say?"
So, I went, and somehow it stuck. I became a priest myself!!! All thanks to Father Oscroft-Jones, Vicar of Six Bells.

Mr. Handy taught Woodwork at the Grammar. He was a second cousin of mine and, in my opinion not a very nice man.He retired to Tring in Hertfordshire in his older years. I hated woodwork and he once smacked me across my right ear so hard (I must have been 13) that I have been partially deaf in it ever since. No Courts of Human Rights in those days! If any of his cousins or other family read this, they are welcome to get in touch and offer me some compensation! He was a nasty piece of work as were, indeed, several of the male teachers at the Grammar. If I say more this may not be put up!!

Glad the Pontlottyn is at least "something" again. Cllr. Christine Tidey didn't tell me this. And glad the Woolworths building is in use. A great loss, Woolworths. I used to love the one in Camden Town, near here.
I am told that St. Michael's Church needs great repairs that can't be afforded. That would be an architectural loss to the town. Perhaps they can get grants.
How often do you go to Aber?
By the way, I remember Tossels shoe shop. Does anyone remember Mrs Amy Gaily? Very nice lady. She kept a shop in Six Bells and was an aunt of Cllr. Christine Tidey.
Abertillery has a great pull on the emotions of those who have left it.
Anthony
Uskside

Manawydan wrote:
Uskside

You must be Stephen Small.. My grandfather, William Alfred was your father's Brother ?  They used to live up Cwm Nanty Groes before moving to Blenheim Road... Vi Tossell was their sister.....

Regards


Hi Manawydan

No i am John Small we have spoken before, Hope U are stil keeping well
Its good to visit the site every nite, I have still not seen any indications apart from yourself of anyone I grew up with, or went to School with. But i will keep visiting I expect some one else will appear.
REMEMBER
Growing up is optional
Growing old is MANDATORY Laughing [/u]
dragongirl

your memories

uskside/John
                I remember Tossels shoe shop, were you related to the Small`s in Bryngwyn road ? Mark Father, Mum`s name escapes me. Mary,
John and Jill. I know there were a few brothers. My father was friendly with a few of them.Also another Small family a few doors away no idea of parents names but girls .. Carol and I think Margaret,they later moved to Roseheyworth Estate. Was it Andrew who worked in the shoe shop?
Small world isn`t it !!!
dragongirl

abertillery memories

hi Anthony,
             Yes, your not far out with the age I`ll be 72yrs next month!!had my Bus pass for years but don`t use it often. Yes i remember the old Colliers Buses going up and  down. They soon changed to going straight down Ricmond Rd stopping at Laundry,3Hills Drs Steps and the Church at the bottom of Eastville Road
  Yes I do remember Mr and Mrs Vaughan, that must have been where I got the idea that the Father lived there .I thought they were his employees  Housekeeper  and General Help. !!
 I couldnt remember much about Mr Handy probably because he taught Woodwork and I rarely saw him. It was only you mentioning your Nan`s name that he surfaced!!!!He Certainly doesnt sound like a nice man.
I`m sorry to hear about St Michaels, my grandmother married there on Christmas Day 1904 by 1914 she was a widow with 3 small children
my granddad had died of TB
. Abertillery has been given  a £13million
regeneration  Grant to be spent on the Town so maybe they could apply
for a portion, it is a building worth saving. The Church at the bottom of
Tillery/Division St has a proposal to be turned into an indoor Market
its already been a Carpet Showroom and a Furniture Showroom but think
its been empty for a while
 I don`t go home much now I have 2 Sister in Laws in Ebbw Vale
 a stepson and family who moved to Bridgend ,and  two good friends left in Abertillery My family are in Swindon and outside Birmingham My
Sister lives in Sussex  My Uncle lived in London for years I love the place
but my husband doesn`t enjoy it at all .
Uskside

Re: your memories

dragongirl wrote:
uskside/John
                I remember Tossels shoe shop, were you related to the Small`s in Bryngwyn road ? Mark Father, Mum`s name escapes me. Mary,
John and Jill. I know there were a few brothers. My father was friendly with a few of them.Also another Small family a few doors away no idea of parents names but girls .. Carol and I think Margaret,they later moved to Roseheyworth Estate. Was it Andrew who worked in the shoe shop?
Small world isn`t it !!!

Hello dragongirl
I also live in West Sussex by the sea opposite the Isle of Wight.
I am related to the Smalls My Dad was one of the Brothers he was Angus
Jills Mums name was Min short for minnie Carol and Margarets Dad was Jack Small there was also Bill,Tom, Charlie, = 5 Brothers + 3 Sisters Alice, Violet, and one who went to live in Australia. There was no Andrew in the shop, It was my Dad. I located Jill last year, who came up to see me for the first time in 40yrs. It was good to see her, It was only then did I hear there was a third sister. I have'nt Been back for years. I am usualy on this site most days and find it makes some interesting reading.
Its nice talking to you, lets talk again. John
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Hello Dragongirl,
                        Did you know Mrs Blodwen Davies? She lived near the Vaughans at bottom end of Bryngwyn Road. It was she who was housekeeper to Father Oscroft-Jones. So what with Lil and Reg Vaughan and Mrs Davies, Father Oscroft was often to be seen in Bryngwyn Road, which may be why you thought he lived there. Mrs Davies was also Church Warden at St. Johns. She died in 1968. There was another lady Avis something who lived about Number 4 or 6 Bryngwyn - another staunch St. Johns lady.
You say you have two sisters in law in Ebbw Vale. Is that where your husband comes from? My father worked at RTB Steelworks in EV for over 40 years and before I left for college in London we actually moved over there. My mother wasn't at all happy about that. Although she was from Hampshire, she had become very attached to Six Bells. She was 90 last October and still fairly fit; when dad died in 1978 she sold up and returned to Southampton where she still is. My father's remaining South Wales cousins came to her Birthday Party.  She always says that if they hadn't gone to Ebbw Vale she would definitely have remained in Abertillery after dad's death. It is always Abertillery and Six Bells she talks about, not Ebbw Vale!
I know Sussex very well and have friends in Worthing, Hove and Brighton.
Of all the people who've looked at this site since I joined, nobody has written with news of Mrs Mounter which is a surprise. Was her husband Ted or Jim? Maybe they left Abertillery in retirement?
Have you been on the lovely little train that runs from Cardiff to Ebbw Vale? I have twice. For Abertillery you have to get off at Llanhilleth and then get a bus or taxi. Another example of Ebbw Vale getting more regeneration than Abertillery. Surely they could have had another branch, like in the old days, up to Abertillery.
From Swindon you could really be quite quickly back home because at least you're already half way there!
      Well, another quite late night. I'd better get to bed as I have a new cooker being delivered at 8am in the morning.
Nos da
Anthony
pent boy

Mrs Mounter

I remember Mrs Mounter in the county school teaching english literature. She had this peculiar habit of closing her eyes half way through a sentence and not opening them again untill the sentence was finished. Funny the things that stick in your mind Laughing .Sorry but I dont know if she is still around. The Percy who taught Latin was Percy Williams, Neni Williams did live into his nineties as did Bert Lloyd, and a friend of mine in Australia told me just last week that Tony Rees had also passed away. He played scrum half for Aber with another local teacher Ernie Lewis as his partner at ouside half.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

thanks for the info on Mrs Mounter. Some of the staff must have changed subjects because when I got to the Grammar School in 1962 we had Mrs Mounter for Latin and Percy Williams taught History only. Neni for Scripture. Ernie Lewis was our PT and Games master though we did have Neni for PT in Year 1. Fan for French. I kept up with her after leaving school until her death. We had a vary peculiar art teacher called Mr Jaqueman who was keen on lining up all the bpys and giving us a dose of his long ruler! Too often if you see what I mean!
Steve Lewis, Ernie's son was in my form and I believe he is still deeply involved in South Wales rugby - I read recently about some controversial decision regarding a young player. An Ebbw Vale friend sends me the Gwent Gazette but not every week.
So many nice memories and a shame the school was closed, in my opinion. It gave many ordinary boys and girls a real chance to get on in life.
Anthony
dragongirl

memories

Hi Anthony
 Just a quick note re Mrs Mounter will answer your last e.mail later

  Got on line and found ;
 Births; James William  B Mounter Born 12th Jan1911 Reg Newport.
             Irene Elizabeth A Baker mother`s name Little  Reg Newport

 Marriage James W.B Mounter to Irene E A Baker
                4th Qtr 1942  Newport Reg

Deaths   James William  Mounter  2nd Quarter 1978  aged 67yrs Newport
              Irene Elizabeth  A  Mounter April 1984  Bromyard Worcs!!!  73 years of age,          
           Still checking for children of the marriage  maybe she moved

          to be with them. Can remember her with 2 boys in SixBells
          Park but don`t know if they were her`s.
          will contact later Dr`s Appointment calls !!!
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Many thanks Dragongirl.
So, really she died young.
I had some mad idea that she might still be alive and that I could contact her.  I'm glad to know, however.
She'd have been 100 this year in fact!
Anthony
dragongirl

memories

hi Anthony
  I could only find one child;
 a Keith I Mounter born Aprl may june Qtr 1942  Newport reg (mother Baker)
 A   Marriage 1974 richmond on Thames to a Denise Y C Anderson.
the only  Keith I Mounter in the records
     But found  a Marie Louise I Mounter  marrying a Mark Ferguson in March 2005 at Bromsgrove Worc--- time line about right to be Mrs Mounter`s  granddaughter,!!! explains the link with Bromsgrove any way
 Back to Posting

   No wonder I always thought the  Father lived in Brynwyn Road!!
    What part of Richmond Road did you  live in can only recall one Williams  family  .
  My Husband is from Cwmtillery originaly a miner  - worked at Ebbw Vale for a while
 his youngest sister was a bank manager and moved to Ebbw Vale on
  marriage because her husband worked in the steel works.
Other sister was in the Social Security Office moved to London near Lambeth as he husband took up a Headship at a school there.They moved
backed to Wales a few years ago and bought a new house in Ebbw Vale
not far from the Railway Station !!
My first husband is from Sussex born near Haywards Heath. My Sister
lives in Worthing just off the sea front !!!
Agree Swindon to Aber isn`t too far about an hour down Motorway but we prefer the scenic route via Malmesbury THornbury pick up Old Severn
Bridge there,
     Hope cooker arrived  and is working O K also Hope your not one of these !Gourmet Cooks who can only cook fancy things !!!
Saying that must go and sort out our evening meal !!
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Thanks so much, Dragongirl, for all you have done tracing the Mounters. I really am grateful. You have put a problem at rest. I loved Mrs Mounter at school which is why I did A Level Latin. OK, I obviously had to be "up to it" but she encouraged me.
You go away to College and things move on - then years later you want to be in touch and it's too late. As Fan would have said: "C'est la vie!"
We lived at 84, Richmond Road. My grandfather Artimus Williams lived at 92, Richmond Road for many years. It was the corner house (a lot of front steps) coming down from Bryngwyn Road to Mrs Hillier's shop. Mr and Mrs Gough bought it from my grandmother when she moved to be with her daughter in Bracknell in 1951.  I am sure you remember old Mrs Hillier? I remember she took me down to a panto at the New Theatre in Cardiff one Christmas time. I think her daughter Pat has died but Pat's daughter Wendy still lives in Richmond Road. I'm afraid I am not in touch with her. Wendy's brother Howard was one of my youthful pals but he became a bit wild and laid down on that steep hill in front of a lorry and ended up in hospital for months!  I was then forbidden to play with him; after that I went to the Grammar and he didn't, so our lives took different turns. Isn't that true though about so many people we've known.
My father was Harold and he had a sister Betty (Mary Doreen) who also went to the Grammar. She married a Reading boy during the war, at Saint Michael's in the town, and they moved to Bracknell where I used to enjoy lovely summer holidays. Even though she moved away, she always felt more Welsh than my dad did, and she ran the Bracknell Welsh Society for years!  She had a great piece of good fortune when she was about 80. Their new Vicar and his wife were both from Ebbw Vale. Pure coincidence. They all got on very well and in Aunty Betty's last years (she was 90 when she died, 5 years ago) they made her life really nice and helped her daughters to care for her.
I think I know what David Cameron means about the "Big Society" but it is just such a stupid title, isn't it? We've all always been caring for each other in so many ways without a new fangled name!  As a London priest, I certainly know that!
Shirley Williams (no relation!) says a better title would be The Good Society, and I agree.
Yes, cooker came safely and a lady I know who is a qualified Gas Inspector came to install it for me, free of charge. So that's a tiny example of the Good Society!!  It also saved me £90 which is what the company wanted for installing it!
I might attempt to trace Keith Mounter - he might be pleased to know that someone thought so highly of his mum.  Anyway, I shall remember her soul on Sunday when I say Mass.
You mentioned seeing Mrs Mounter in Six Bells Park.  What a lovely place it was. Do you recall the old swings and shoot and that "wobbly" roundabout? Lovely!  All gone now of course - health & safety! What a load of rubbish. I doubt whether we'd even be allowed to take a tin and go up the mountain by ourselves to pick windberries these days! Or is it wimberry? I used to love that. We used to have picnics in the mountains (Remember the Three Sisters stones?).
I've got a friend coming for supper, so must go and experiment with the new cooker!
Speak soon.
Anthony
pent boy

Grammar school

If you were in the same form as Lou, as Steve was commonly known you will probably remember my youngest brother Andrew from the same form who was also good friens with Steve having been in junior school with him as well.Andrew had polio at 18 months and suffered from a serious limp as his left leg was quite withered.Sadly he had a  burst aneurism and died 10 years ago this month at the age of 50.
dragongirl

abertillery memories

Hi Anthony
      Update ; found another son for Mrs Mounter -
     Robert Neil Mounter- Apr May June 1949 Mommouthshire Reg
     Married inJ une 1971 a Valerie Pendelwick  Pontypool
   
    they had a son Andrew Robert Pendelwick Mounter Pontypool1973
reg  

      Daughter Elizabeth Angela Mounter 1975 Pontypool.reg so good chance the family still live in Pontypool. Checked ,no Deaths but records only go to 2006, I guess they were the two small boys she used to bring
to the Park.
    If you lived at 84 Richmond Road you were near the Vincents Sweets
Clissets and Beddis`s am I correct?
    I remember Mrs Hillier and the Shop. Pat married a Gauntlett,
his mother used to live in Marlborough Rd near Williams Shop any relation ?Hector had the shop in BryngwynRd and his wife Cissie had Marlborough Rd shop.
Back to Pat I knew she was quite ill at one time don`t remember Howard sounds a right darling!!!!!  Wendy lived over HighStreet after her marriage so I guess she moved to Richmond Road
after I moved away.
   Sixbells Park was lovely lots of happy memories. Health and Safety Rules have gone beserk   it will be permission to breathe soon    !!!
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Hello, Dragongirl,
                         Thank you for further info. I will try and contact one of Mrs Mounter's sons, just to say "thank you" for all their mother did for me.
You really have been a help.
I only knew Pat as "Pat Hillier" not as "Pat Gauntlett". Can't at all recall her husband, come to think of it.
Do you remember the Parfitts in Bryngwyn Road? Keith and Kelvin were twins, I think, and I played with them when young.
Yes do I remember the Sweets!! Cissie and Alban. Our next door neighbours. Mrs Sweet died not so long ago. She was always "shouting", usually at the children playing in the road when her husband was trying to sleep after his shift. She had 2 daughters, one of whom, Pam,  used to be secretary at Queen Street School. She died of cancer when quite young. The other, Rosemary, married and moved to Chippenham. Old Mrs Knight (Selina) was the other side of us. She was a lovely old lady and, I think, English. When I was about five and six I'd go into her house and she used to read to me. My mother was very fond of her and frequently invited her in for dinner at the weekend. Then there were the Higgins at 88 and their son Alan was a good pal; lost touch with him but told he is still there, in Aberbeeg. He played rugby for Abertillery. Mr Vincent was a widow when I was growing up.
Yes, the Clissetts. What memories! Their daughter Mary married a Ron Wedlake. Mary and my mother were very friendly and every day, when coming home from school, I'd find Mary having afternoon tea with my mother who was an excellent cake maker! Sadly, Mary died of leukemia when young.  Mrs Dare was the other side of the Clissetts and then Mr and Mrs Thompson; they had 3 children, Pat, Megan and Nigel. Stan Thompson was secretary of Six Bells Bowls Club; Nigel was last in Epsom when I heard from him.
Next up to Clissetts were the Dobbins family and then the Duggans next to Mrs Hillier. Old Mrs Duggan's daughter in law was  Catholic which was considered "unusual" by some! My mother had been Catholic before her marriage and would sometimes go to Mass at the little Saint Mary's, Abertillery, with young Mrs Duggan. She's in her 90s and still alive in the same house. One of the last, Mr Aylesbury is still there; he's about 74 and still hale & hearty. Otherwise it is a very different road with many newcomers from Newport who are (not particularly nice)tenants of some landlord who bought up a good few of the houses. Cllr. Christine Tidey, my great school friend still there, told me there had been quite a bit of anti-social behaviour in the road. Pauline Mason and her mother still there; Pauline's young sister was killed by a bus in the early 1950s when running across the road to go to school. I don't know if that tragedy comes to your mind?
By the way, the River Ebbw is much cleaner than it used to be! The people in Arrael Street and Griffin Street have helped with this green project which is good. I have yet to pay my respects at the miners' memorial. There's a new footbridge from Griffin Street up to Alexandra Road.  Many happy memories.
Happy Saint David's Day!
Anthony
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Pent Boy,
                   Yes I do remember your brother Andrew, He always seemed happy. Of course having a disability in those days was "worse" than today, if you see what I mean; but I remember everyone liked him. What did he do when he left school? Very sad indeed to hear he died so young. I hope he had a happy life, as far as he could.
I just got out the long black & white school photo of us all as new boys in Form 1; it's the only one I seem to have though there was a later one taken.  Andrew is on it. Perhaps you've got it?
Happy Saint David's Day!
Anthony
pent boy

Grammar school

Hi Anthony, when Andrew was 15 our mam died, it hit him so badly that he never went back to school, he had a job with social security and within a short time transfered to London to try and sort  his head out.He was there for 3 or 4 years.On his return he changed tack and became a betting office manager for William Hill and did this untill his death, finishing up with Ladbrokes and living in Malpas.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Pentboy,
               Well, I hope there were some good and happy periods in Andrew's life.  At least he tried London. So did I, and am still here, though I often wonder why! Just so used to it now, and my neighbours couldn't be nicer if I still lived in Six Bells - real, nice old Londoners.
You may have read elsewhere,probably in one of my letters to Dragongirl, that I am a priest.  Today I'm having Mass for Saint David at 7pm and I will remember Andrew's soul at it and put him in the Anniversary Book so he is remembered every year. What exact date did he die on?
You may or may not be a believer, but I hope it will bring comfort to you to think a Mass, on St. David's day, will be offered for him.
I've put up my Welsh flag in the garden, by the way.
Anthony
dragongirl

your memories

hi again Anthony,
  hope you had an enjoyable St David`s Day, are there many Welsh people in your locality ? i used to get teased because of my accent.
  First of all apologies the Gauntletts and Hilliers were related it was Barbara G auntlet who lived in High Street, Wendy was in Richmond Rd!!
Spoke to my sister this morning about Carol  Mason and that accident
because she always walked to school with Carol and Joy Mills, On that day they wanted to go down probably to Meek`s to get sweets but my
sister was not allowed on the Main Rd so she left them on Three Hills and walked on to Queen St. to learn later what had happened. She used to play with the twins Keith and Kelvin Parfitt in Marlborough Road ,there
used to be a crowd of them  Denise Cowley the Tunadine boys  There is 7years between us so not too much in common.She can only  remember Brian and Graham Williams they lived by the Edgells.
     I forgot to ask you had you found Cwmtillery on line.? Lots of links one to Tillery Churches
  - St Pauls, St Michaels, St Johns ,Christ Church, and St Marks   There`s a lovely photo of the inside of St Johns -a lot different from my memories of it !!! There`s albums of photos on there some may interest you and  they have a forum but it`s quite small at the moment,
Blind Pew

Jim & Mrs Mounter Update

Hi Anthony,

A little extra info re the Mounters, Jim was indeed the Head of Gelli Crug during the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s upto the date it became a Junior Comprehensive. My father, Eric Cox was a very good friend of Jim and was his Deputy at Gelli Crug during most of Jim’s reign. I attended the school 1964 to 1969. I can assure you that there was never a dull moment when Jim was around.

I am afraid I do not have too much info re. his wife, I knew of course that she taught at Abertillery GTS, however by the time I arrived at the Grammar School in 1969 she had retired. I certainly know Ian, one of their sons, I will make some enquiries when I next see dad, I am sure that he will have more info re the family.

If you log on at Abertillery RFC you will find more information about Ian, he lives in Worcestershire which explains why Mrs Mounter’s death was registered in Bromyard. He is in fact President of Abertillery RFC, unfortunately Ian suffered a major stroke at the tail end of 2010. There is a report of his illness on the Aber RFC site but nothing of late. If however you contact David Mason the Secretary of Aber he is in contact with the family and I am sure Ian would love to hear that you have been enquiring about his mother.

As an aside you mentioned Steve Lewis I played rugby with Steve when I transferred to the Grammar school, also played with a number of your contemporaries.

I am friendly with all of the Lewis family, Ernie was my PE teacher and was instrumental in getting me involved in reffing the oval game, and he has been my “mentor” during my 25 years of refereeing.

He is still going strong, turned 86 still has strong opinions on the state of Welsh rugby. He and his wife have recently moved into Abergavenny a little nearer to Steve and Ernie’s daughter Heather.

When I next meet up with dad I will pick his brain and if I come up with anything further I will post it on the site.
dragongirl

abertillery memories

hi Anthony,
   Just reading the message from  Blind Pew - I guess Keith I is Ian
   sounds as though you`ll have a way to contact him,Great news.
    Hope you had a good St Davids Day!!
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Thanks so much, Blind Pew!
May I be a little impertinent and ask why you've given yourself this "title"??
Ernie, of course was also my PE teacher (we called it PT then) and I am glad he is still alive.
I really do wish to tell one of Mrs Mounter's sons just how much she meant to me. Thanks to her I still know my Latin!  I should have tried to trace her years ago, so it's my own fault.
I left school in 1969 and will be 60 this month! Can't quite work it out - are you 2 years younger than me or same age?
My rugger was only mediocre, but my older brother Derek (he went to Nantygo Grammar) played for London Welsh.
In the 1980s I taught Latin in a London prep school and at least had the honour of changing the sport from soccer to rugby!  The Headmaster wanted me to coach the boys in soccer which I still don't follow. I said that I couldn't but would do rugger with them! He agreed, and a lot of the lads' fathers were very happy about the "change"!
Do you live in Abertillery?  If I still did, I would have voted NO today!  I don't want Wales and England to drift apart. Good old Monmouthshire - at least they said NO!  I know it's different boundaries.
Do you know the motto of old Monmouthshire (our old county)?  "Utrique Fidelis"  - "Faithful to both" which is how I have always felt.
Anthony
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Hello Draogongirl,
                           Well, more news about the Mounters. So sorry that her sone Ian is unwell. As I said to Blind Pew, it's really my own fault - I should have tried to contact Mrs Mounter when she was still with us!
I haven't yet got on to Cwmtillery on Line, but will. Actually, if I did return to Aber, I think I'd settle on Cwmtillery. The area round the lakes is beautiful and all those lovely walks. Christine Tidey, local Cwmtillery councillor, and my great friend from school, always coaxes me to return!  I think it's too late. We had a long chat yesterday, and I told her to vote NO to more devolutionary powers (see my remarks to Blind Pew).
Anyway, you and I no longer live in South Wales, so I suppose we should be impartial.
Brian Williams(no relation) bought 86, Richmond Road when Mrs Knight died - he still lives there but must be getting on!  Don't know of a Graham, unless he and Jean, his wife, had a son. Can't remember.
I meant to ask Blind Pew (with his rugger connections) if he knows Alan Higgins who was a youthful pal of mine. I gather he still lives at Aberbeeg and played rugby for Abertillery. We lost touch and I'd love to hear news of him.
Yes, had a lovely Saint David's Day and I remembered Mrs Mounter's soul at my evening Mass. Some local Welsh friends came, and we had supper and a sing-song afterwards - not exactly an eisteddfod, but we all sang along to Bryn Terfel!
You ask about local Welsh people. Yes, quite a few. And, of course, the big London Welsh Society is just down the road from here at Gray's Inn Road.
You can't remember my father Harold?  He was born in 1907 and lived all his life in Six Bells until he decided to upsticks and go to Ebbw Vale where he had , after 40+ years service,a senior accountancy job in the Steel Works. We were not happy with the move, but in those days, "dad knew best".
Speak soon!
Anthony
dragongirl

abertillery memories

hi Anthony
  you reminded me about Brian and Jean ,she used to work in Barrells
fruit and veg shop,he worked on the Council. I think they did have one son  He had a younger brother but can`t recall if his name was Graham.he married our next door neighbours daughter
 Sorry don`t remember your family at all and can`t think why as we knew most of that side of richmond road
Yes Blind Pew is an intriguing name I thought the first time I saw it was from Treasure Island but think that was spelt Pugh,!!!!
Re Allan Higgins if you click on the Section below this there`s some
photo`s of Abertillery youth Rugby-- two with Tony Rees incharge the last on has Allan Higgins in the middle row its dated 1969. Also when you get around to Cwmtillery on line in Album 14 last photo is of Jim Mounter with Gellicrug Netball Team 1963
 I`d better go and sort out evening meal.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Dear Dragongirl,
I don't think Blind Pew would mind me telling you that his "title" is connected with his long career as a rugby referee, and a certain player saying that the best ref is a blind one! Apparently it stuck!
Can you remember a sleek, beautiful Riley car? That was my father's. He bought it from the widow of the Deputy Manager of Six Bells colliery who was killed in the 1960 explosion.
That car was his pride and joy. It was eventually smashed up in Church Street, Ebbw Vale by a large lorry carrying cargo to the steelworks. If dad had been in it (not just having nipped out to a shop) he'd have been killed and thus the car would have had a "double disaster". Had that car still existed, it would have remained in our family to this day.
When dad built a garage at the back of our garden in Bryngwyn Road, Mrs Sweet was absolutely livid and complained to the council about the light. Actually I think she was right, but my dear papa never cared what anyone thought!  Mrs Sweet also said that it gave him a chance to peep through her bedroom windows!!!! She was never friendly after that which was sad. I recall my father and older brother working on this garage one Sunday afternoon, when they spotted Father Oscroft-Jones coming up Bryngwyn Road, probably to visit someone with sick communion.  They both scuttled indoors. It was considered, as you'll know, not the done thing to be working on such a project on a Sunday!
Would your parents maybe have known my grandparents Artimus and Mary Ann Williams at 92, Richmond Road? They were well known in the area. My Father's first wife, Agnes, died of TB on the day the Wat broke out in September 1939 when Derek was 2. He remarried my mother in 1950 and she was always very kind to Derek. She was Catholic but my father hated the Catholic Church and they got married in a registry office. Mother was excommunicated (literally) by the Chuch which is how we all ended up being Anglo-Catholics and going to St. Johns, Six Bells.
On my father's death bed at Neville Hall Hospital a Catholic priest married them, which was very touching. My mother was then able to receive Communion in the Catholic Church again. She now goes to both Catholic and Anglican services! My father always had to have his own way. He was generous and loving but very self-willed and he was ALWAYS right! He could "out shout" Mrs Sweet any day!
He died in 1978 when my mother was still only 58 and I know it may sound awful, but I think she was relieved.
The cooker beckons!
Anthony
O dear, perhaps I am telling you too much!
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Dragongirl,
                   When you say, about Alan Higgins, click on the section below this, I don't see what you mean exactly. What do I click on for these rugby photos?
I am hoping that Blind Pew may be of help in tracing Alan, as apparently he played rugby for Abertillery - presumably in the 1970s. (Alan was in my form at school. Would Richard Brewer know where he is?)
Anthony
dragongirl

memories

Hi Anthony,
 sorry assuming you`d flicked through the list!!!! the one under this is WHO`S WHO click on it some pictures you can see others you need to click onto www.abertillery.net/who`s who ( its actually in the first line incase I got it wrong!!)
I do remember that Riley actually,didn`t know who it belonged to sorry it came to a  nasty end but at least your Dad wasn`t in it.
Yes I can imagine Mrs Sweet objecting to the garage ,who would WANT to look into her bedrooms, strange people around.
They always used to say ref`s were as blind as bats -so glad we cleared that up. I know what your saying about too much information you do tend to forget your on a public forum and that anyone else can "listen in"
I`ve gone to put things to you and thought  no maybe better not to.
 Will say my sister knows Christine ,just say Iris says Hello.
 Unfortunately both my parents are dead My dad died 26 years lst month and my Mum died 6 years ago 10days after her 91st birthday
I have seen Artimus on one of the Censuses and thought that an unusual name and wondered how he came by it. Our (my husbands family) Had a Shadrach Meshack and Abendigo in their tree in Somerset
one brother moved to Pontypool and his son was a very high up in the
Salvation army up North somewhere
Like you the cookers beckons I presume yours is doing its job properly
Hope you get onto the photo`s Ok. You don`t have to join Cwmtillery on line to see their photos
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Dear Dragongirl,
                              I thought you would like to know that I've sent a private email to Dave Mason, Secretary of the Abertillery Rugby Club. He knows Ian Mounter and has agreed to send him a message from me to say how much I appreciated his mother and remember her fondly.
This evening at 9pm I said a private Mass in LATIN for the Repose of the souls of Mr and Mrs Mounter. Also that Ian may recover in health.  Private means that no parishioners were present. They'd come earlier in the day, anyway.
I really feel much better now to have discovered the facts, thanks to you. Having said Mass for them, I can now lay it to rest.
Yes, I'll tell Christine that Iris says Hello!
Now, I looked at the photos; the comments following them, though, seem to suggest that Alan Higgins is not there(???)  The fair haired lad in the top photo does look like him. Anyway, I've asked Dave Mason if he knows.
Haven't eaten since lunch time and about to return to the cooker which, I must say, is doing splendidly - it was a lovely choice. Anthracite colour to remind me of South Wales coal!!
Anthony
Blind Pew

Abertillery Youth Alan "Buster" Higgins

Hi Anthony,

Apologies for the delay in replying I have not logged on this weekend.

Alan “Buster” Higgins is certainly on one of the photographs on the Abertillery site and he is named.  He was a member of a very good Abertillery Youth team of the late 1960s, he did play for Abertillery 1st XV but he was a stalwart of a good Llanhilleth side of the 1970s and 80s.

I do not bump into him very often as I believe he is living in Pontypool, however he still calls in and watches Llan play, I have put the word around and the “Valley Bush Telegraph” is as powerful as ever and the word should get to him.

Chat Forum>Who’s Who>Go to the 10th on the list>Welcome Back to Who’s Who>Click on the link added by the Admin. Scroll to the Youth team of 1969. You will see Buster Higgins stood next to Robert Jones who sadly died in a car accident on the Crumlin Road in the early 1970s. http://www.abertillery.net/whoswho/

The Youth team of 1969 was an exceptional side, there are 3 lads including Robert who died who were capped for Wales at various levels, Mike Cairns went on to lead the Abertillery 1st team and was very unlucky not to get a full Welsh cap.

One final thought, were you friendly with Alwyn Holland? His brother –in law had an idea that you were. Alwyn and I played for the Old Tyleryan RFC together, I am still involved with the club, this is my 26th season as its Fixture Sec!!! I took it on as a temp role in 1984.

Best of luck with your search.
Grumpy

Alan Higgins lives in Llanhilleth.
dragongirl

memories

hi  Anthony
  so pleased you said your Mass for the Mounters and that you`re a lot
happier now. if you get to contact the son as well that will give it closure.Lots of us probably have things we should have said to people no longer around but the moment has passed and just leaves regrets.
If you can contact Allan now that will be the icing on the cake -I was looking at the Aberbeeg site yesterday and they had a list of Captains of Llanhilleth Rugby Club and Allan was on there twice.
 Your grandfather is the only name Artimus on any Census a lot of Artemis BUT mostly female!!! Oh Mr Mounter`s third Christian was Brister
evidently his grandmothers surname!!!
  Anthracite - sounds very posh but practical - are you a good Cook? I mean do you cook PROPER meals as opposed to nouvelle cuisine etc !
take care
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Thanks, Grumpy!! I am hoping to be put in touch with Alan Higgins and maybe Dave Mason can help.
I hope you are not usually too grumpy! I know there's lots to be cross about - but, believe me, if you lived in London you'd be even grumpier than you are in Aber!
Take care,
Anthony
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Dear Dragongirl,
                                   Hope you've had a good day. The weather here has been sunny.
Had a productive day with a photocopying engineer coming to overhaul my machine - necessary for doing Church Notes etc. Guess what? He was from Aberdare! He spotted my Welsh Flag flying in my patio before he knocked on the door.
Still waiting to hear from Dave Mason and hoping someone will put me in touch with Alan.
You ask about my cooking skills. I shouldn't boast, but I'm B+ rather than B.  Over the years you learn. My mother was not so good, but her mother was cordon bleu and she taught me over a long period.  My mother's family were English but all lived in Czechoslovakia before the War where they worked in the Horse world for a Czech prince. Some of them are buried there. My mother was born in Bohemia in 1920. They had to flee to Britain in 1939.  The Czech valley they lived in was, she said, very much like Abertillery and even had a coal mine! That's why she always felt at home in Six Bells.  The Six Bells children used to call her "the Czech lady" but she wasn't. However she speaks Czech and used to sing Czech songs to amuse the Six Bells locals.  My father refused to let her teach me Czech as a child. Well, I already told you what he was like. But she did anyway, secretly. I've got Anglo-Czech cousins because some of the family stayed there and married Czechs. I go there most years since communism ended(we couldn't safely have gone before).
People ask me what nationality I am; I always say Monmouthshire Welsh with some English and Czech thrown in!  I suppose, as mum isn't Welsh I am obviously half and half. But I always feel first and foremost "Monmouthshire" if that makes sense.
So I cook a mix of things - Czech and Hungarian which is often a lot like British plain cooking. And I do make perfect Welsh cakes - taught by Mrs Vaughan of Bryngwyn Road who was my godmother. Her griddle stone was made for her personally in the colliery. I managed to get hold of an old iron tray which seems to do the job. The ladies of the parish are very partial to my Welsh cakes!  I expect you make them too?
Talking of history: my mother rang this morning (she's 90 and very active) to say she had her local undertaker with her! She was arranging her funeral and wanted to know if I wanted to be buried with her in a double grave in Winchester. She's already bought it. Not very pleasant, but practical. I was so surprised that I said I didn't want to think about it. She's healthy enough, but I guess she's being sensible. Apparently she's paid it all up so that it's a worry off her mind. I'll be 60 next week and would prefer to delay such decisions!
By the way, have you been in Swindon for many years? And what took you there?
Anthony
Grumpy

I have Alans's address if you want it. Send me a message if you want it.
Grumpy

No I am not grumpy. Drive everybody potty in work because I am always happy.
dragongirl

your memories

hi Anthony
             It`s been sunny here today but quite chilly ;still the nights are giving out.will soon be Spring
      These fiendish Welsh get everywhere hope the machine is up and running - i bet he was taken aback to see a Welsh Dragon in front of him    I see  Grumpy who should be Happy by his note has Alan`s address so hopefully one more brick in the wall!!
   Definately agree that where you are born is home-especially if you lived there for a number of years. I used to moan about how depressing the valley got after Crumlin with derilect shops etc and my Mothe rused to say it`s still home and ofcourse she was right it`s people that make a home.
  my sister has an old fashioned iron  griddle for her welsh cakes i think it was my Nan`s
  Your Mum sounds just like my Mum, she`d think nothing of inviting me
to share a grave, especially with the undertaker there --mind I would have thought it was buy one get one free if she had, Sorry being flip !
- I think when they reach 90yrs they don`t worry about the niceties !!
tell her yor to young - Happy birthday for next week mine is the week after,
   Came to Swindon 16 years ago after working outside London for a few
years.
    Anyway just been told my evening meal is on the table  speak soon
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Well, Dragongirl,
                           Can't remember when I had such a good laugh over graves - two for the price of one!  I rang one of my priest friends in Kent and told him what you'd said. I knew he'd appreciate it! He laughed his head off.
I wonder what the undertaker would say if I suggested it!
You'll be pleased to hear that I now have Alan's address in Llanhilleth and shall be writing to him in next few days. Very pleased about this. No doubt it'll be a surprise for him. Shall also be interested to learn where his sister Mary is.
Grumpy also tells me (it was a private message because of Alan's address) that he knew the Vaughans at 10, Bryngwyn and that his father used to work with Mr Vaughan in the colliery offices. Was able to tell him what happened to Mrs Vaughan who had Alzheimers in the end and died in 1995 aged 91.
He also knew the Coronation Road Cavacuitis who were great friends of ours. Andrew kept the Express Cafe in Somerset Street with others of his family.
Maisie and my mother met in the Rookery, the maternity home in Ebbw Vale where her daughter Catrina and I were both born in March 1951. Ma\sie and mum became close friends. Did you know them?
I wonder if anyone reading this remembers Mr Lovesey and Miss Shellard who both taught me at Queen Street? Of course they are both long dead - just two more examples of dedicated members of the teaching profession. Does anyone have memories of them? There was also Mrs Brown.
What happened to Mrs Snellgrove who lived near us in Richmond Road? She gave me a few piano lessons. Her son also taught at Queen Street, I recall.
Ash Wednesday today - so a busy day for some of us.
Speak soon.
Anthony
dragongirl

your memories

hi again Anthony
                   Nice to see people who have a sense of humour. I did think you might have thought I was being Flip. My Mum was a darling anything  for a bargain But always expected you to pay- because strangely enough the free one was always Hers!!!!!
 Hope you get a quick reponse from Alan
     Yes I  knew the Cavacutis - used to work with a girl originally from Swansea,she married a son , a sailor i think and she came to live with
with his parents  in Coronation Road while he was at sea- she had an unusual first name but don`t think she was Italian.
     Mr Lovesy also taught me at Queen Street School  other names are
vaguely familar. all I can remember is he lived in I think Blenheim Rd
or the street behind Coronation Rd and he had a daughter Margaret.
 it`s right what they say that old age doesn`t come by itself !!!
Just booked a weekend in the West Midlands  for 1st week of April will
catch up on my daughter`s Family haven`t seen them since before Christmas,
speak soon
martyn142

Mr Lovesy - Jiffy I think was his nickname - taught me English at Nantyglo school for a short while in autumn 1974. However, he actually died during the school year so he didn't teach me for very long. He seemed very nice though.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Martin,
When you say Nantyglo School, do you mean the new Comp?  I am a bit surprised that he moved on to a secondary school after nearly all his life as a junior school teacher. And he could walk to Queen Street but it would have been the bus to Nantyglo!  He had a daughter, so it can't have been his son! Also you say he died in 1974, so it must have been him.
He was a really lovely, gentle man at a time when teachers were so much stricter.
I still hope someone reading this might remember Miss (or Mrs) Shellard who retired, I think, in 1960 - a real school marm, but again very nice.
Anthony
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Martyn,
sorry! I see your "Martyn" is with a Y. Have noted it.
Anthony
martyn142

Hello Anthony - with two older brothers it isn't often I got called by my right name when growing up in Cwmtillery, so mispelling it is the least of my worries  Wink

This Mr Lovesy definitely lived in Blenheim Road as he inadvertently embarrassed a friend of mine who also lived in that street by asking in front of the class if he was "Mr & Mrs Langbourne's little boy". He was 14 at the time  Laughing
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Dear Dragongirl,
                         I don't think the sailor's wife can be connected to the Cavacuitis! John worked for the BBC in London as a cameraman, and Tony was a policeman. John returned to Aber and is connected with St. MAry's on Hill Street, the little Catholic Church for which his father and grandparents had done so much.
Well, I was very surprised to learn from Martyn that Mr. Lovesey had a "change" towards the end of his teaching career, and moved into secondary ecucation! He was so devoted to Queen Street for many years.
Can anyone reading this tell me more?
Talking of St. Mary's, Abertillery: it contained the most beautiful High Altar - white, Italian marble which the largely Italian congregation had paid for with their pennies and shillings over the years. They really built that little church. That altar was priceless. When the changes in the liturgy happened, one reckless priest took a pick axe to it and smashed it up! Not sure that it wasn't the same young priest who was having an affair with a local woman and then committed suicide when it was discovered. I don't condemn him for the affair, but for destroying probably the most valuable piece of Art  Heritage in Abertillery I do condemn him!  I tried to stop it, going through Welsh Heritage. They WOULD have stopped it, but the deed was done before they could slap a preservation order. I hope the small Catholic community of Abertillery can live with itself for such a wicked act of vandalism!  But I gather some Catholics of Italian descent never went there again after that.I doubt that the majority of Abertillery people even knew it existed because obviously they aren't Catholics!  I hope people who read this will spread it around.
By the way, Dragongirl, what year exactly did you leave Six Bells?  Do you remember the winter of 1962/3 and all that "superb" snow which kept us off school? Lovely for the children anyway. Had days of fun shooting down Richmond Road on the 3 seater tobogan my father bought. I recall Alan's sister Mary was usually my chief passenger!
Martyn is 10 years my junior, I think, so he won't remember that.
Anthony
pent boy

post subject

Hi Anthony, talking of snow in 62 look down the list in memories at my {snow in 62}.
dragongirl

your memories

hi anthony

      You`re correct the girl from Swansea married a Lewarne (the sailor)
 but did stay with the Cavacultis for a while. After I logged  out the name Lewarne came to me but still can`t think of her Christian name. I remember Tony but can`t recall John
I remember St Mary`s they used to hold dances on a Sunday night !!!
 When did this descecration occur it`s the first time I`d heard about it?
  I got married in 1959 and we lived with my Parents until my eldest daughter was born in 1961 then we rented a house in Blaina for a few years then decided to move back to Abertillery so eventually  we found and bought a house in Oak St.
 I was suprised to read about Mr Lovesey moving to Nantyglo I thought
he was a permanent fixture in Queen St. I know Margaret married in 1964  but lost track afterwards I`lll ask the girls next time I speak to them I recall the name Shellard but not the person,
  My little niece who goes to the Catholic school in Chepstow was telling
me about PalmSunday and Ash Wednesday and the Father told them
it was no good saying they`d give up sweets for Lent as they`d never last 40 days, or their X Boxes etc!! He dad asked her what she was giving up and she said "nothing" on being told she had to give up something she pondered a while and then she said
I`ll give up my laptop(her dads) as she turned away she said sotto voice
I can use my grancha`s -- she`s 6yrs going on 60 !!
Do you realise 1185 people have viewed this thread and you`ve had 49 replies !!
 Must go the ironing calls  not a job I like
Speak soon
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Dragongirl,
                   Don't mention the iron to me - I hate it!!
One of my church ladies does the sewing and ironing connected with that, but I never let her do my ordinary stuff because why should she!
I do it once a month and hate it. I'd rather be on my hands and knees scrubbing the kitchen floor!
The Chepstow priest is right - no point giving up anything for Lent unless it's combined with being nice to everyone, even those we don't much like!
I'm certainly not giving up my glass (or two) of wine!
Our Grammar School site seems popular. Perhaps one or two more might like to share their memories. And there must be some of you reading this who surely remember Mrs Shellard of Queen Street!
Anthony
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Have posted some thoughts on the snow of 1962 on Pent Boy's site of that name.
Terrible for the grown ups but superb for us school kids! Was the train still running?
Grumpy

Mr. Lovesy taught me English in the grammar school and he did live at 14 Blenheim Road. Also has a son who lives in Melbourne Road.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Grumpy,
Would you mind telling me exactly when Mr Lovesy taught you in the Grammar? You're 2 years younger than me, aren't you? Christine in my year, my great Cwmtillery friend, can't remember him at the Grammar either???
Dragongirl and I were convinced he was a permanent fixture at Queen Street because he taught both of us there with quite a span in our dates, but we are clearly mistaken!
Looks as if he left Q.S. for pastures new.
Does anyone reading this remember Gordon Griffiths at the Grammar, also the rather odd art master, Mr. Jaqueman? Now he WAS creepy....
Mr. Griffiths taught General Science and Chemistry - a rather sarcastic young man and none of us much liked him!
Oh! And before I forget, what year did the lovely Abertillery Park Lido close. Another loss!
Anthony
Grumpy

I started at the Grammar school September 1966.
drone

I'm almost certain the mounters had a daughter, Jennifer; she was in the same year as my elder brother who was born in January 1942.
I remember jakeman well, also dan osbourne,miss williams, george hanney, and of course Bob taylor the old head. He surprised me some 8 or nine years after I left school by singling me out in a reception of several hundred people, quite a humbling experience.
Must go I've used up this decade's word count.
aber42

queen street school

What was the name of Headmaster in Queen Street School 1964/1965
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Aber 42,
               I left Queen Street for the Grammar in 1962. The QS Head was Mr. Vernon when I was there. He was one of the old school. Before him it was Mr Cook(e). I don't know when Mr Vernon retired.
I'm still waiting to hear more about Mrs Shellard who taught at QS till she retired in 1960.
Somebody must remember her!
Anthony
aber42

queen street schoool

Thanks for the info - I was school clerk in Queen Street and can remember the Headmaster as you say 'old school' his name had slipped my memory. I was only there for about year as I went to live in Newport.I have now remembered the dates!! End 1962 until April 1964
pent boy

trains

I worked in the office on Blaina station 1961/2 issuing tickets, doing delivery waybills, and also doing the wages of porters and signalmen from Aberbeeg to Brynmawr.Pretty sure trains were still running untill about 1964 when Dr Beeching axe came down.
Gwenllian

Re: queen street school

aber42 wrote:
What was the name of Headmaster in Queen Street School 1964/1965


My daughters were pupils at Queen Street School around this time.

I believe Mr Green was the head
aber42

queen street school

Thanks Mr Vernon was the Headmaster when I worked there - he wasnt young!! so maybe retired around that time.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Gwenllian,
                        Then Mr Vernon must have retired around 1963/4 and Mr Green taken over.
Anthony
aber42

blaina railway station

Nothing to do with Queen Street School - however I travelled on that line from 1960 to 1962  (to go to work) also used Blaina Station on Friday evenings to go to dance in Institute - good days.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

I really loved that train from Brynmawr down to Newport. Crazy to abolish it.
At least the one from Cardiff to Ebbw Vale is a help and you can get out at Llanhilleth. Money for Ebbw Vale again!  Why couldn't they have reinstated the Aberbeeg station and at least put in a small branch going to Abertillery as well?
Anthony
pent boy

Branch line

Probably cost a fortune to put a line to Brynmawr now as the old line has mostly been replaced with the bypass,but they could still go as far as aber maybe.Of coarse there were no problems with the Ebbw Vale line as it was still being used for the steelworks untill very recent times.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Pentboy,
Yes, I apprreciate what you say. I meant just a small branch to Aber. They could have reinstated Aberbeeg, rather than Llanhilleth, and then just one stop to Abertillery. The new station could have been anywhere I suppose. It would have been a bit of help with regeneration of Abertillery.
People even think that "Blaenau Gwent" as a constituency means the old Ebbw Vale! Even some Ebbw Valians don't realise that Blaenau Gwent is a district of Abertillery! Like the famous Baptist Chapel.
Anthony
Gwenllian

Re: Abertillery Grammar School

Anthony Earl-Williams wrote:
Gwenllian,
                        Then Mr Vernon must have retired around 1963/4 and Mr Green taken over.
Anthony


APOLOGIES !   Old age doesn't come on it's own.  I have got it completely wrong .  Mr Green was the head when my youngest daughter was there.  I have just checked on some old school photos and Mr Green is on one of them  probably taken about 1973 .I will check with my older girls later as to who was school head in their time.
dragongirl

your memories

Hi Anthony
I`ve been doing some digging  Albert Wilfred Samuel Lovesey was born in Jan 1911 at Clevedon which then was in Glos, on the 1911 Census he was 10 weeks old.and with his parents his father`Samuel and his second wife Alice.First wife died of TB in 1908 he remarried the year after.
Mr Lovesey  married a Margaret Morgan  1940 at Wokingham Berkshire they had a boy and a girl  couldn`t find details on site I was on as they`re still living so details hidden,
He died in Sixbells Apr-Jun Quarter in 1975, death registered in Ponypool District Mrs Lovesey either remarried or took her maiden name she`s now Morgan (this was 2008)
Little bit of  information on Mr Lovesey evidently he went to University and became a Teacher. He also served in the Royal Navy in World war 11 on the Ship HECLA This was the stark piece attached to his tree!!!
 My sister said she remembered him in Queen St school- she probably moved to Bryngwyn school in 1956 because at my Wedding she was 13 years old
Speak soon
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Thanks, Dragongirl,                
                            Very interesting. So he certainly died young - just 64.
Specially interested in his marriage at Wokingham which I know so well. It's the next town to Bracknell, where my father's mother and sister went to live.  Perhaps his first teaching appointment was there - given the dates, that looks likely.
Will write more later.
The cooker calls.
Anthony
sunbeam

Anthony,I've just been reading through this thread and I notice you mentioned your father worked in Ebbw Vale Steelworks. I think  there's a chance I might have known him.If his name was Harold Williams and he worked in the General Office was he still there around 1965-72 .I was there then and I'm sure I remember a Harold Williams ,I worked in the Cost Office although I started as a Clerical Apprentice.I think I have a photo which he might be on .
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Sunbeam,  
    You are quite correct!
My father was Harold Williams. My mother refused to renounce her "maiden" name of Earl (unusual in those days) so she was Mrs Earl-Williams. When I was born she insisted "Earl" was part of my surname. My father had already deprived her of her Catholic faith, by refusing to marry her in St. Mary's, Abertillery, so maybe he felt guilty and allowed me to have a double barrelled name!! He would never discuss it. When I was old enough I chose to keep the double name. My younger brother chose to be just "Williams" ! We had the choice when old enough.
Dad retired at 65 in 1972 and died six years later in 1978. He worked really hard all his life and paid in extra contributions so that mother would get a decent pension. She is still alive, aged 90, (in Southampton) and has every reason to be thankful to the British Steel Corporation's pension scheme! She's still going strong and often talks about Six Bells which she loved. She didn't like Ebbw Vale!
Is the photo you have the one of dad's retirement party? My mother has this.
Do you remember Ray Jackson who also worked in the General Offices? He lived in Beaufort. He and dad were lifelong friends and went every Saturday without fail to the rugby match at Abertillery Park till my father had his first stroke.. I went with my own pals in teenage years and my father was always a bit disappointed I'd never go with him.
Do you remember my father sometimes wearing a small (artificial!!) rose in his button-hole? He drove a pre-War black Riley - his pride and joy. He'd bought it from the widow of the Deputy Manager of Six Bells Colliery who was killed in the 1960 tragedy.
This has probably given Dragongirl a bit more info as well!!
I'm so glad that at least the General Office main building at Ebbw Vale has been preserved. Is it going to be the town's new museum?
One thing I find it hard to forgive my father for was that he refused to let me learn the violin at Abertillery Grammar. Mr Bond was the teacher. He calmly walked into the Geography room, where the lessons were, and hauled me out. Said it would interfere with my "proper" studies! As he allowed me to learn the piano, I can only think he was worried about all the scraping and scratching and whining noises there'd be when I was learning - and there was also Mrs Sweet next door who was an absolute tartar about ANY noise, even children playing in the street.
When did you leave the General Offices? Do you remember that lovely lady who was on Reception ? I forget her name. Was it possibly Rosemary?  My father had his beady eye on her, I have no doubt!
Anthony
sunbeam

Hiya Anthony, yes I think the photo could be of his retirement do,as I recall he is shaking hands and receiving something off Cliff Jenkins who was the office manager.I do remember him with a buttonhole,he seemed to be what was called a dapper gentleman.I worked in the General Offices mostly  in the Cost Office,where your father worked, until I left at the end of 1971.
I can't seem to remember Ray Jackson but of course there were a lot of people in the General then.
The receptionist at that time was Lyn Downey who went on to become a drama teacher at Brynmawr I think.She was a very glamourous lady who would have caught the eye of most of the men.
The General Manager at the time was John" Noddy" Powell,well known for his love of sport ,in particular rugby.RTB Ebbw Vale had great sporting and recreational facilities and I can tell you it was a great place to have your first job.
martyn142

This is weird! Lyn Downey took over teaching English at Nantyglo when Mr Lovesy died. She was a fantastic teacher, easily the best I ever had. I saw a photo of her taken at the Nantyglo closing party last year so she is still going strong.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Sunbeam,
   yes, that's right - it was Lyn Downey.  Before I left for college my father got me a job in the Apprentices' library for the summer. I became quite friendly with Lyn. My father was very cross when he found me one lunch time having a chat with her. I was 18 and he was 61!!  He said later : "She's too old for you!"  Jealousy. I just ignored him as usual.
Yes, she was glamorous; glad to learn what she did later.
The RTB tennis courts were also very popular.
A real tragedy what happened to that steel works - probably all planned so that the far East could take over steel production.
Why did you leave, if you don't mind my asking?
Did you travel over on the famous Jones' Bus? That was an excellent link between Aber and Ebbw, not least because it was so frequent.
Anthony
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Martyn,
well, we are all learning a lot from each other.
What has happened to the original Nantyglo Grammar building? My older brother went there when Mr. Silk was Headmaster. Has it been pulled down like Abertillery was?
On the site of the old Ebbw Vale Grammar School (which was "on the flat" unlike Aber) there is now a posh new housing complex called College Crescent. How pretentious!
Anthony
martyn142

Hello Anthony

I have been referring to Nantyglo Comprehensive which was built on the site of the ironworks. It opened (I think) in 1971.

By the way I was off school for a long time when young and Mr Silk tutored me for a while. Also my wife is very friendly with his younger twin daughters (he had two sets) and has been in Cardiff with them today.

Very small world!
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Martyn,
                   Small world indeed -  first Lyn and now Mr Silk!!  When did he die? My older brother Derek, now in Dynas Powys, would be interested.
By the way, why did the Nantyglo comp close if it's relatively new?  Also what did happen to the old Grammar School building?
All this talk about schools having to be space age and state of the art! Makes me laugh!  I am not saying there shouldn't be new buildings, of course. But when you think how so many of our old school buildings did a magnificent job for generations, it does make one think!  It's the dedicated teachers that make a school - people we are all remembering on this site, so many years on.
Anthony
martyn142

Sorry Anthony I don't know when John Silk died but I'll ask. Nantyglo closed last year. I think Nantyglo Grammar would have been Hafod-y-Ddol? If so, like Aber Grammar it became a Comprehensive in 1971.
martyn142

Sorry - Nantyglo got squeezed out between Brynmawr and Aber schools. There were, it was said,not enough children to warrant the three schools. By the way, try and find a photo of it. It was quite the most hideous building I have ever seen.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Martyn,
              I understand what you say. But what are the old buildings being used for? In particular Hafod- Y- Ddol.
And what is now on the site of Abertillery Grammar? Accessible from Oak Street but very steep on the Roseheyworth side where the hill is to go down to Abertillery Park.
Still hoping somebody logging in can shed some light on Gordon Griffiths, one of our chemistry masters at Abertillery. This is mid 60s.
Anthony
Phillip T. Small

Mr Lovesey's son was called Kerrie/Keri, not sure as to the spelling. Kerri was into Welsh Nationalism/Plaid Cymru. They lived in Blenheim Road near the top.. My gran lived at no 2....

Denise Cowley was my sister, lived at no 48 Marlborough road, next to Jack and Alice Gough, son's name Martin, last time I saw him was in Abergavenny in the 90's I think... Alice was Angus Small's sister...

The Taylors', children Philip, Roger and Diane lived next to the Evans' in Bryngwyn Road.. There was not much of a distinction between Marlborough Road and Bryngwyn Road, with Bryngwyn backing onto Marlborough.

Few other names come to mind are:- Tom Bayliss, Booth, Hathaway, the Coal Merchant [can't remember his name].

I'll have to ask mam what she remembers as she was brought up at no 48 Marlborough Road...

Surprised)
dragongirl

your memories

hi Anthony
    have just read the very tragic story of Father Seddon But can find
nothing on the desecration of the Altar all I could find was the Outside view of the Church looking from Cross St.
 Googled the Hecla evidently a depot supply ship in 2nd world,appears  it was   torpedoed off moroco in 1942
with great loss of life a few V.C`s etc given etc
Re your Father in spite the Ebbw Offices info still can`t place him. only one I knew in the Offices was Derwyn  Edwards !!!
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Hello, Dragongirl,
I'm between Masses (morning and evening)
No, you wouldn't find anything on the smashing and removal of the St. Mary's Altar because, needless to say, it was all carefully hushed up!
Actually it might have been done by the priest before Father Seddon. I know it had gone by 1983. As I said, Welsh Heritage genuinely would have saved it, so it was an illegal act.
Did you know Mr. Lovesey had a son as well? And what a surprise for me to learn that Lyn Downey replaced him at Nantyglo!  One far more glamerous than the other (obviously!!) but both such very good, kind people. Lucky Nantyglo.
Hope Martyn can tell me where the site of the new (shared) senior Comp is. I know Ebbw Vale is getting a new Sixth Form College, somewhere on the site of the Works. New theatre as well and a new hospital. About time some of it was spent on Abertillery.
And, Martyn, what is now on the site of Abertillery Grammar?
Have a nice Sunday, one and all.
First in Lent today, but I haven't given up my wine!
Anthony
dragongirl

your memories

Hi Anthony
     I did tell you Mr Lovesey had a son and daughter BUT you can`t get details of living people without a lot of fuss. Grumpy also told you  they had a son who lives/lived in Melbourne road. All this info !!!
  Evidently  a letter was sent to  Father Seddon at Our Lady of Victory
at Stroud from an ex Parishioner, doesn`t state whether from  the church at Newport or Abertillery but was enough to tip him over the edge.
Tewkesbury Inquest decided. My grandfather was killed by a train up by Abertillery Park- he was slightly deaf and didn`t hear it coming ,that was bad enough But to lie down and wait for a train to cut you in half is horrendous---ironically it was the Hereford to Swindon train!!
Need the desecration have been perpetrated  by a Priest? surely its more likely to have been a Parishioner who disagreed with his treatment and who would know unless you(not personally) hushed it all up
His Newport Parishioners spoke highly of him and really loved him by
their accounts.
Anyway water under the bridge but so tragic three lives ruined and his adoptive parents  lives ofcourse
 Nantyglo grammar  was demolished think there`s bungalows there now
The new Aneurin  Bevan Hospital is up and running on the Steelworks Site also a Large Record Office for all local Geneology needs and a Museum is due to open soon  Some schools are moving there I read in the Gazette my sister-in- law sends them 6weeks at a time!!!!
sunbeam

Hiya Anthony, Well I left  RTB  to have my son and before that we had lived in Nantyglo,so I didn't catch the Jones' bus.I had to get from Nantyglo to Brynmawr then catch the Red and White workmens bus to RTB.Later I was lucky enough to get a regular lift with Cliff Player who lived on the Garn,he was the manager of the Purchase Invoicing Dept. A lovely man he had a lot to do with the English Wesleyan Chapel in Nantyglo.
I caught sight of Lyn Downey (actually I think she uses her married name which I can't recall)last week and she hasn't changed a bit.

I can tell you that there is nothing left of Hafod y ddol,you wouldn't even know that it had been there.It was a lovely building and I often wonder what became of all the wooden panelling and the beautiful staircase .On the site where it was there is a small nature reserve,I've never walked through it but I'm told it's quite nice.I'll have to go up and have a look.
Mr Burton was headmaster when I was there,in the same form as Carolyn who you'll know from this Forum.I did know of Mr Silk, he was headmaster when my brothers were there,I believe they lived in Cwmcelyn,I remember his first twins Linda and Lesley I think,although they were a bit older than me.
When the new comprehensive school was built in Nantyglo I think my cousin was the first head girl there(I hope i've got that right ,isn't it terrible how you forget things)and Martyn is quite right ,it always looked like a prison to me ,a horrible building.
Bye for now !
martyn142

Hello Anthony

There isn't a shared comprehensive. Abertillery now has one at Penybont. Brynmawr has one too. And of course Nantyglo also had one until it closed.

The site of the old Abertillery Grammar - it had become a junior comp when I attended it i.e. a feeder to the senior comp at Nantyglo - has not been redeveloped. The school has gone but the playground can still be seen quite clearly if you have a look at Google maps.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Evening all,
                   I posted this earlier and it failed to submit itself.
Dragongirl: I think the new EV museum will be in the old General Offices building which is a good location. Wonder what else they'll use it for.
And isn't there to be a new bridge linking the old town centre with the new Works revamped area? I come back to my point. Why wasn't more money allocated to Aber? I'm not talking about present cuts because the money to revamp EV was given a fairly long time back.
I didn't know that the Hafod Y Ddol building was so nice with a lerge, elegant staircase. Why tear down something that could have been made up-to-date from within? For instance, the (state) Camden School for Girls near me is over 100 years old; it was modernised from WITHIN and the original structure is still the same. Queen Street is a local example - a perfectly nice, sound building, made more modern inside. Plenty of money for overpaid architechts - that's what I think, anyway. You'll have to go and inspect the flora and fauna, Sunbeam, on the old site, then tell us what you think. Choose a spring day.
Martyn, thanks for the info about googling in on the old Abertillery Grammar playground. Might make me a bit sad but I'll do it. I remember the nice view, down to the railway line and up to the mountain. Was that still the Arael mountain or did that "end" where Six Bells became Aber?
Dragongirl, the Italian High Altar at St. Mary's wasn't destroyed by an irate parishioner but by a priest with the connivance of the Cardiff Archdiocese authorities. It was when all the "changes" were coming in to make the services more modern. But why smash up a priceless work of art, paid for over years with the shillings and pennies of ordinary people? There is an Italian marble altar, just like the Abertillery one, in the little Catholic Church in central Manchester. That one WAS saved by English Heritage before the powers that be got their grubby hands on it. It is now famous and called "The Little Gem". I appreciate that this is a Catholic matter and that most Abertillarians aren't Catholic, but what a shame they never even knew what a treasure they had in their midst.
Very sorry, Dragongirl, to hear of your grand dad's horrible fate. Was that at that crossing where the steep hill comes down from the side of the Grammar school and we used to go up to the Park? My parents forbade me to go alone that way. If I went swimming up in the lovely old Lido, I always had to walk along Castle Street and via the river Ebbw. Strange how we used to obey our parents more in those days! Or did we? On the whole, I think we did.
There are still lots of unguarded railway crossings in the Czech Republic - very dangerous because they have far more local trains than in Britain; there are often fatal accidents there.
Well, must say Good Night and sleep well
Cysgu yn dda, isn't it?
Anthony
dragongirl

your memories

hi Anthony,
 Lovely day here quite warm.On the News they were showing Scottish Householders digging themselves out of the snow and one of Kent with blue skies and daffodlls in full bloom !!! The world`s going crazy,maybe it`s Nature`s payback time. What with Fires, earthquakes floods Tunsamis next thing with be plagues and pestilence then the Bibles prophecies will be coming true.
   I would have thought Father Seddon had enough to contend with I
don`t know much about the Catholic Religion,but it seems to have many
factions with different ideas. My daughter`s father in law is a geordie, a widower now but lived in Londonderry  since the forties if he`s home one of us take him to the Swindon Church he enjoys the services and like`s the people but says "its different to home" but can`t say why
 Glad to see you`ve  not given up your wine do you prefer white or red?
the latter always give`s me an headache.(just the one glass) yet its
supposed to ward of heartattacks etc.
Ebbw Vale certainly seems to get the lionsshare of every thing going although Abertillery is getting this  £13 million pounds but as someone
was saying on the Gazette letter page they`ll need that to repair the roads. I dont know why they don`t rename Gwent Gazette  the Ebbw Vale Gazette !!! To think it started in a small shop in King St Abertillery
edited by Brinley Evans and was really a local paper- the good old days !!
 Yes my grand dad was killed just above the crossing maybe if he`d been lower down the train driver would have seen him but it was just after the bend in the track.
 Take care
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Yes, Dragongirl,
I remember the old Gazette and Brinley Evans. He was a good independent Six Bells councillor and actually very friendly with Father Oscroft-Jones.
Do you remember he always had his column and signed it "Brynley Evans - Arael"   Or was it just "Arael", in fact?? He really cared about the local community.
What actual years was Fr. Seddon at Abertillery? I can tell from that when the desecration happened. Of course, it migtht have been just one part of the poor man's problems. Plenty of London priests have secret lovers (of either sex!!) and nobody is particularly bothered. I know I went to Mass at St. Mary's in 1974 and the altar was still there. Then in 1983 I went to stay with Mrs Vaughan (Aunty Lil) my godmother at Bryngwyn Road for a week, and the altar had gone by then. A young priest was sitting alone in the church saying his prayers when I went in. Might have been Father Seddon. I was so shocked to see the empty space I nearly fainted and had to get out. I wish I'd tackled him, but it may not have been his fault. People told me they hadn't wanted it removed.
Does anyone reading this remember Terry Strickland? He was a Catholic boy in my form at the Grammar. Had ginger hair. Why do we lose touch with people? Does anyone know of his family?
I see that a lot of people are looking at the Grammar School site. Will a few more of you please write in with your memories. It's meant to be an open forum!
Definitely prefer white, Dragongirl - more refreshing. Having one now, in fact!   Red OK with a meal but I agree, it can give one a headache.
Anthony
drone

drone wrote:
I'm almost certain the mounters had a daughter, Jennifer; she was in the same year as my elder brother who was born in January 1942.
I remember jakeman well, also dan osbourne,miss williams, george hanney, and of course Bob taylor the old head. He surprised me some 8 or nine years after I left school by singling me out in a reception of several hundred people, quite a humbling experience.
Must go I've used up this decade's word count.

Regret my memory played tricks with me, her surname was not mounter but she was the daughter of another teacher at the school.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Hello, Drone,
                      Perhaps someone else will remember who Jennifer was.
Why are you called "Drone", particularly as you say you are so sparse with words!!!   No other school memories for our forum?
All the best,
Anthony
drone

Principally because I loathed every moment I spent at the grammar school; I keep trying but fail to find a pleasant thought about it.
When I went onto further education I found that learning was a pleasant business and I made up for time lost.
It was probably because my teachers were all either about to retire or were just starting out and even more probably because I was an obnoxious little sod, at least one thing about me hasn't changed.
My nostalgia specs see not rose but brown.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Drone, what years exactly were you there?
I too have bad (or should I say, less than kind) memories of a couple of the male teachers at the school - including Arthur Handy, my own 2nd cousin - who, when I was 13, smacked me so hard round my right ear that I have been partially deaf in it since it became obvious - but only once I'd left school unfortunately. We didn't complain then, did we?
The nasty old pig retired to Tring and is now dead. If any of his family (my 3rd cousins or whoever) wish to contact me I shall be pleased to send them a bill for overdue compensation.
Mr Jaqueman (Jakeman) was, in my humble opinion, another creep - definitely something strange about him. I could say more......
That apart, I personally loved the school - but then I had Mrs Mounter and dear old Fan!! And the rugby was good too.
Anthony
dragongirl

your memories

Hi Anthony
   ` Drone` sounds as if he/ she had an unhappy time at school, mind you it does depend on the Teachers and how well they teach their subjects !!!
     Right to Father Sean Seddon googled all newspapers etc especially  web site of  St David Lewis Church in Bettws where he was a priest from   1985 until he was appointed to Abertillery in Jan1992 and dead
by Sept 1993. Evidently there seemed to be a bit of dismay that he changed St David`s  around .The Altar was moved to the centre of the south wall and benches were placed in a circle around it and the Blessed Sacrament was placed in a small chapel to left of altar plus other plans
over the years no name on account but got the impression they weren`t amused
  So doesn`t look as if he was in Abertillery for long. Obviously the affair started in Newport she was an RE teacher and even wet to Zimbawe for
two years . Quite sad really !!!
 Letters to write so better get writing speak soon !!!
.PS  I know the name
Terry Strickland any relation to Peggy Strickland she married Desmond Hill in Richmond road. Her Mum and Dad used to work on the Buses?
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Dragongirl,
                  Now, Peggy may have been Terry's mum, but they definitely didn't live in Richmond Road (nor, I think, Six Bells) because Terry and I never went home on the bus together or walked back together, as our Six Bells contingent tended to do.
He was good at Latin as well! But Mrs Mounter made it seem easy for us all, with all patience and kindness.
I am so very glad that Father Seddon is NOT the culprit regarding the Altar, and that it happened years before. Mind, I don't like the sound of what he did in Bettws either. It was a time of upheaval in the Church and the person in the pew was not consulted about the removal of beautiful things.
I remain hopeful that some others of the many people who are following our "adventures" will add their own (very much wanted) contributions soon!!
Anthony
dragongirl

your memories

hi Anthony came on line to answer some e .mails !
   Peggy would have been my age- I know she  had least one sister they used to live up by the Stute= Powell St or Evelyn St, She married Desmond Hill he lived about 58/ 60 Richmond Rd. They moved to the end house top of Bryngwn Rd  facing onto three hills (behind your grandad`s)  they had two girls. I remember the Willises living there. I really can`t remember if she had a younger brother If he`still around someone will let you know!!
   I didn`t think the person writing about Father Seddon was too pleased
with some of the changes but a lot of people don`t like change.
Off to e mail my daughter or she`ll think I`ve emigrated !!!
 Take care
Anthony Earl-Williams

Abertillery Grammar School

Dragongirl,
                Powell Street rings a bell for Terry, but Peggy can't have been his mother because she became Mrs Hill.  A relation, no doubt. Was she a Catholic?
I have seen the picture of St. Mary's from Cross Street AND emailed the photographer to say he should have gone inside! He sent a nice reply that he only does exteriors.
Also now looking at some of the photos on Cwmtillery-on-Line. Excellent.
I am pretty sure my father is in the one of the British School (where he went before going to Newport Commercial College). He is in top row with a grey suit on, next to the lad in white. I reckon that photo was about 1919 when dad was 12. It's almost identical to a photo I have of him that age, taken with his younger sister. It's just above me on my computer cabinet, sp pretty sure I'm right.
I do wish more people would send some Grammar School memories - at the moment, although it's had heaps of hits in such a short time, just a few of us are emailing.
Come on folks - so many of you must have memories to share. Who was your favourite (or least favourite!) Grammar School teacher?
Speak soon, Dragongirl - and don't emigrate yet please!
Anthony

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