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Rocke

Find the Spot

"Go up Church Lane in Cwmtillery, past the church and follow the road towards Blaentillery Farm.

About 200 yards after the top of the lane there's a cattle grid at the top of a rise and about 50 yards past there the road has had two tarmac'd patches.

On the right is a sort of lay-by, hidden from the road by a grass bank.
"

Anyone know the place I've described?

Or if anyone's going up the lakes for a walk do you fancy following those instructions, to see if they are clear and accurate?

All will be revealed later.
Ian

I was up there earlier,but think I came down off the mountain higher up than this.Don't recognise the description anyway though.Have a look next time I'm up there.
martyn142

I know the area they are describing. Not sure if the directions are accurate though. I'd have said the cattle grid is further past Church
Lane than 200 yards but I think the off-road area isn't too far past it so the 50 yards maybe right.
Rocke

The 200 yards was from the top of Church Lane Martyn.

It's probably 300+ from the Church.

Anyway, what I wanted to see was if I'd given reasonable instructions to C2BG, the Council's call centre.

Last Monday I was out walking (halfway up the mountain) and spied a load of rubbish that had been fly-tipped at the aforementioned spot.
I called the council and gave them the info.

On Friday it was still there.

Incidentally, near the end of my walk I came down through Winnett's Farm and Hillcrest and onto Tyleri Rd opposite 'Henley's garage'.

Two council workers were cutting a few bushes on the roadside, outside a councillor's house, and pulling bits through the fence, presumably because the flowers (they weren't weeds but dog roses I think) were growing into said councillor's back garden ?

Anyway, drop something accidentally and you dont' get a chance to pick it up, the wardens have you in seconds.

Report fly-tipping that scars an area of natural beauty and it takes more than 4 days to get it sorted.
Those two council workers could have had it picked up in less than 30 minutes - that's travelling up there, putting it on the lorry and coming back.
That's far less than they spent helping citizens of Tylrei Gardens.

I know, because I watched them for well over 40 minutes (from the comfort of the Bridgend  Very Happy ).

PS I haven't been up there today, but I will be tomorrow.
Ian

If it's where I'm thinking it was still there yesterday.
Rocke

Small black settee, loads of panels from kitchen units I think?
Ian

Yes,that's what it looked like to meI was on a path above this having walked up from Winnetts farm.
Rocke

"Hello, I'd like to report an incident of fly-tipping"

"And where is that?"

"The same place, and the same things, that I TOLD YOU LAST WEEK".

Alternatively:

"It's Cllr. Bartlett here, Cwmtillery Ward.
There's a nasty dog rose bush that's growing through my fence"

"No problem Cllr. Bartlett, we'll have two men there within the hour"

Where's 'Eddie Legge' when they need him eh ????????????
Rocke

Ian wrote:
Yes,that's what it looked like to meI was on a path above this having walked up from Winnetts farm.


You walked the opposite direction to me then Ian.
I've got some wonderful photos of the beautiful views from above the 'quarry' - WITH ALL THAT RUBBISH IN THE FOREGROUND  Mad  Mad

Oh - AND IT'S STILL THERE TODAY.

NINE DAYS AFTER BEING REPORTED.


And worse than that, it's now in sight from the road, rather than hidden behind the bank.
kdwent

Pity no one knows who dumped it. But then when BGBC Will not allow people with vans to use the site in Blaina this is what happens.

I am not condoing this but I did say about it a while back in the Penndragon and said exactly what would happen.
Rocke

I did have a nose but it's all building materials, not an incriminating letter in sight.

I wonder how many litterbugs have been ticketted in the last 10 days?
martyn142

I walked up there today and it appears to have been removed.
Rocke

I obviously misdirected you then Martyn, unless I shoudln't have mentioned the 'lay-by' because the part by the cattle-grid, where the seat is, could be mistaken for what I said.

I did however mention the two pieces of recently tarmac'd road to C2BG, which is 50 yards or so farther up (North).

Anyway:

YESTERDAY IT WAS STILL THERE - TWO WEEKS AFTER BEING REPORTED.

The member of staff took my telephone number, so they could have called me when and if 'the lads' came back and said they couldn't find this ghastly sight.

Although a bit of a dig perhaps this is nevertheless factual.
Whenever people contacted me re. flytipping I did one of two things- either go where it was, if I could do so within that day, or advise them to call C2BG and let me know if it hadn't been collected within 3 days.

It's important that the council knows to a high degree of accuracy where the mess is, and the best person to do that is one that's seen it.

Fwiw I've no intention of calling the council again.
There'll be a letter to the Gazette by the end of the week.
Ian

Still there today Rocke,I have photographic evidence.
Rocke

Cheers Ian.

I've been away for the weekend.

I've got (close up) evidence as well thanks.

Looks like the Gazette's having a letter this week.
Next week's edition might be worth a deko...........
stoob

Find the Spot

Apparently you have to opt in and pay 25.00 per annum to have green waste removed by this so called council from March 2014, the majority won't and more fly tipping to come methinks.
Rocke

At least that won't be an eyesore after a few months.

(Which reminds me - I wonder if the rubbish I mentioned has been picked up yet?)

PS How are the collectors to know who has and hasn't paid?
And is the service going to be cost-effective if, say, there's just the odd house here and there (which might even be different towns).
stoob

Find

Rumour has it, the labour member for Badminton is currently on gardening leave, so presumably he's opted in.
martyn142

We use the green waste service quite a bit and, while I'm not happy about it, I'd be inclined to pay the money just to make life easier.

However, I can see what is going to happen is that other people are going to twig fairly quickly and start dumping their green waste outside my house to be collected, which I'm less happy about. Not so much because I care that others are getting it collected free, but I think there is a limit on how much is collected and I suspect I'd quickly exceed it even though it isn't my waste.

Not sure what to do yet.

On cost effectiveness Rockey, I'd be interested to see when the books are balanced how much has been saved by closing the civic amenities sites as compared to the cost of clearing up fly-tipping.
martyn142

Re: Find

stoob wrote:
Rumour has it, the labour member for Badminton is currently on gardening leave, so presumably he's opted in.
Laughing  Laughing
Rocke

Re: Find

stoob wrote:
Rumour has it, the labour member for Badminton is currently on gardening leave, so presumably he's opted in.


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Rocke

martyn142 wrote:
We use the green waste service quite a bit and, while I'm not happy about it, I'd be inclined to pay the money just to make life easier.

However, I can see what is going to happen is that other people are going to twig fairly quickly and start dumping their green waste outside my house to be collected, which I'm less happy about. Not so much because I care that others are getting it collected free, but I think there is a limit on how much is collected and I suspect I'd quickly exceed it even though it isn't my waste.

Not sure what to do yet.

On cost effectiveness Rockey, I'd be interested to see when the books are balanced how much has been saved by closing the civic amenities sites as compared to the cost of clearing up fly-tipping.


Perhaps it's an attempt to get enough money into the coffers so we can have our branch line to Newport.

Anyway, you won't be able to see the cost-effectiveness of the closure of the CA sites.
It will show as a saving in that particular budget item but the fly-tipping costs won't be seen to go up.
Firstly I'm not sure if the service responsible for picking it up is individually identified (might just be included in 'Waste Disposal) and secondly presumably there won't be any more resources put into it, it will just be more (too much?) work for the same number of people etc.

The WG/WAO introduced a measure in 2009 or so which instead of determining how well things are going via budgets, spending etc. the yardstick was outcomes, performance etc.

So, a true measure of how successful the closure of the CA sites has been and the impact upon citizens is how many reports of fly-tipping there were before the closure of the sites and how many in the year(s) after.

I therefore strongly suggest that if anyone comes across any incidents report it to 311556, and if it's not picked up within a day or two then report it to the media, including on here and any other forum on local issues.
eddie jones

that's it then we all take our green waste to martyn house gee thanks martyn
martyn142

eddie jones wrote:
that's it then we all take our green waste to martyn house gee thanks martyn

Except you haven't got the guts to turn up at my house as we have established   Laughing
Rocke

eddie jones wrote:
that's it then we all take our green waste to martyn house gee thanks martyn


Do us all a favour though.

Leave your brown waste at home.
pimlico

rubbish

i live in a conservative council area, if tipping is reported its cleared the same day or the following, easy really.
Rocke

I vote that our councillors should have a site meeting down there then  Very Happy
eddie jones

You dont have a vote. Remember?
Rocke

eddie jones wrote:
You dont have a vote. Remember?


I did ask you to leave the brown waste at home.

Oh - and you never had one, in that context.

Or is Hedley's really yours?????????   Laughing
martyn142

I think Steve Thomas managed Hedley's vote  Smile
Rocke

In my experience Steve Thomas managed Hedley - full stop.

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