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pent boy

How far have we come.

When I think back to my childhood,Mel and Percy ladeling out the milk into a jug every day,pre bottles and fridges.Posh if there was a car on your street,play football all day in the road.Only the rich had tvs and phones,I think how we have progressed in 60 or 70 years.Homes now have 2 or 3 cars, you cant park outside the house let alone play football.The milkman has just about disapeared,most rooms in the house have a tv,billions of mobile phones on the planet,We fly all over the world for our holidays, and we can sit at a desk and talk to people anywhere in the world.I am in touch with Oz,Fiji and most recently Canada.People today are so privaledged,but the one sorry aspect that hasnt changed,we still have wars. How far have we come?
Margaret in australia

How far have we come

I live in Australia and play scrabble with my sisters in Wales..........hows that for  incredible .!!!!!!!!!!
pent boy

Scrabble

Hi Margaret, now this is incredible  ,its 12.02 so I am replying to your e-mail before you have even sent it. Very Happy .Yours is my 2nd today from Oz, an old tyllerian from just outside Sydney sent the other one.If you go on Australian of the year 2007/8? my cousin,another Welsh girl Joy Green, was one of the older person nominees,originally from Llantwit Major but 40 odd years in Brisbane . You cant keep the Welsh down.
Margaret in australia

incredible

life is full of coincidences........
when we came home to

Wales, a few years ago we stayed in that lovely place  Llantwit Major.!!!!!!
we swapped houses for 4 weeks.
Now you have  a friend in Brisbane, I live a 2 hour drive north.  But if you think  Brisbane is just outside Sydney  then  thats not quite right.    Brisbane and Sydney are not close.
Cheers   Margaret
pent boy

Brisbane.

Hi Margaret you must be an OT as I think you missread my message.The OT I was refering to was another friend of mine who is living near Sydney.Yes I know where Brisbane is, on the beautiful Gold coast, what a wonderful place for you to be living. Smile
Margaret in australia

Guess I had a "senior moment"  and didn't read correctly.
I live north of Brisbane, an area known as the Sunshine Coast and really beautiful, with lovely beaches and mostly good weather  The Gold Coast also a good area is south of Brisbane
.Have a good weekend,  
 Margaret
Eddie legge

Re: How far have we come.

pent boy wrote:
When I think back to my childhood,Mel and Percy ladeling out the milk into a jug every day,pre bottles and fridges.Posh if there was a car on your street,play football all day in the road.Only the rich had tvs and phones,I think how we have progressed in 60 or 70 years.Homes now have 2 or 3 cars, you cant park outside the house let alone play football.The milkman has just about disapeared,most rooms in the house have a tv,billions of mobile phones on the planet,We fly all over the world for our holidays, and we can sit at a desk and talk to people anywhere in the world.I am in touch with Oz,Fiji and most recently Canada.People today are so privaledged,but the one sorry aspect that hasnt changed,we still have wars. How far have we come?

not Eddie Legge
Eddie legge

Age 74 born and reared in Forge Row Nanyglo 10 year old when we had electric light A one up and down damp infested hovel my brother and I age 17 and 16 still sharing bedroom with mother and father
What we didnt have we made or did without
Had we asked for  £1.30 worth of chips in those days we would have needed a wheel barrow to take them home
Women were the heros then All day washing on  Monday   all day ironing on Tuesday no mod cons
A cardboard box of groceries delivered on the weekend
Who had the better life us then or those today
Dave

Eddie  What we didnt have we made or did without



  So true  Dave
Anthony Earl-Williams

How far have we come

Not far, Pent Boy.
So many people full of hate, envy and greed.  
We have to own everything "because we are worth it".
I am sure my Abertillery grandparents were happier with so much less than people today who just seem to want more and more.
Before we blame governments of all colours we should look into our own souls.
Anthony
pent boy

how far have we come

Well said Anthony, I know me and my brothers had very little in the way of material things  but still had very happy childhoods and I have wonderful memmories of growing up in Abertillery  Laughing
Anthony Earl-Williams

your memories

I have wonderful memories too. I sometimes wonder why I came to London, well, college initially. Then I taught in London. Often think I should have returned to Abertillery but after 40 years here it's a bit late.
I've still got a few bits of furniture from our family home in Richmond Road, Six Bells, including the clock the Tillery Collieries officials gave my grandparents in August 1902 as a wedding present.  My grandfather is buried in Blaenau Gwent Baptist Churchyard.
When I was last in Aber in October 2009, I was struck by how beautiful the mountains are - greener than they used to be without the pits, I suppose. All the best, Pent Boy
Anthony
Eddie legge

Growing up in the war years

Pent Boy Well said Anthony
David and Anthony Earl Williams
Growing up in the war years
With the strict food and clothes rationing
we had to get by on whatever was available.
In those not so-affluent times, obesity was unheard of
Our younger days were spent playing, cowboys and indians,
cops and robbers, and hide and seek,
Cinema twice a week-Laurel and Hardy,The Three Stooges,
Old Mother Riley to name but a few
No mod cons, we spent the long winter nights listening to our
battery-operated wireless
We would be reading our Dandy and Beano comics
with the light flickering from a candle and paraffin oil lamp.
We whiled away many an hour playing draughts,ludo,snakes and ladders
dominoes and snap
As we got older it would be swimming, fishing playing football and cricket.
we were never bored
We lived and played in such awful, miserable suroundings,yet we were
never guilty of wanton vandalism and unruly behaviour that is so rife and
troblsome today
We were brought up to be kind and considerate to others, especially the elderly and those less fortunate than ourselves
Mr and Mrs- please-, excuse me-,and thank you- were words so common in our humble days,
I often dream about that friendly knock on the door Could you please lend our mam a cup of sugger or a bit of tea
Neigbours then were proper family

Eddie Legge
Anthony Earl-Williams

Your memories

You are right, Eddie. I think I may be a bit younger than you - no bus pass yet!
I have lived in the London Borough of Camden for the past 35 years and seen it decline. The kids want everything and even if the parents don't work they somehow buy their children trainers costing £60-70 or more! I know because I've been a teacher here!  Very difficult to control them - not like my days at Abertillery Grammar. Talk about one extreme to the other!
Our grandparents had difficulties but always put a brave face on things.
The criminal behaviour of SOME of the youngsters in Inner London is beyond belief. Whatever things are like in Abertillery, it's nothing like here - and you have to be very careful what you say! I live in a nice estate that's half Council and half private. Even though it's in Hampstead, where dear old Michael Foot lived, old people are frightened to go out at night.
It's my own fault, I should have returned to Monmouthshire (as I still think of it!) when I had the chance.
Take care,
Anthony
sunbeam

Eddie,you'll have to remind me where Forge Row was in Nantyglo,I can't seem to remember,my memory is not what it was. I was from Nantyglo too.Born in Prince Street and moved to Gwent Terrace.I'm a bit younger than you ,you would be around the same age as my brothers.David,Donald and Peter,let's see if you know the surname. Laughing
I moved to Abertillery 40 years ago when I married an Abertillery boy.
It's such a shame to see the way the town is altering .I can't see £15 million being anywhere enough to put things right ,make  it £150 million and you might have a chance.Still anything is better than nothing I suppose and money isn't everything as we know but the prospect of good , steady jobs in this area would make a big difference.
Eddie legge

reply Sunbeam Forge Row

To Sunbeam asking where was Forge Row
Forge Row and Lions Row was where The Nantyglo Comp
stands today
I was born there in 1936 Trish Law 1956 my Friend who recently sadly
died Ray Frances was born in Prince Street 1933
Another school friend of my mine Richard John who lived just above Prince Street  was killed in 1950
We had both borrowed push bikes and went for a ride to Blaina, on the way home I was in front, Richard shouted it isnt fair you have got the bike with three speed,
We changed bikes, and it was bravado or showing off on my part that made me over take him
Richard then, he tried to overtake me, on doing so, his front wheel touched my rear wheel Richard skidded off and collided with an on coming bus
Had the friend we went to see in Blaina been at home.had we not called in the bakery for cakes, had it not been for showing off Who knows
I have lived with that all my life

Eddie Legge
Anthony Earl-Williams

how far have we got

Eddie,
            What a sad story. It is fate and you must not blame yourself - Richard would not wish you to.

My younger brother had a similar thing when his best friend died in a car crash in 1978. Lads of 18 going too fast. One dies and one lives.
I do hope you have the faith to believe that you will see Richard again and that he is waiting for you.
Anthony
sunbeam

Eddie ,That is a very sad story and I can only imagine what regret it has left you with but just as Anthony said, we should put such accidents down to fate,who lives and who doesn't is not a question that we can answer.

Funnily enough my eldest brother called in today and I asked him where Forge Row was,he is your age and could remember it well.So now I know where you mean.Although I don't think I knew it,perhaps it had gone by the time I was allowed out and about.Probably the furthest I went down that way was to church at St Anne's every Sunday.
My Uncle Joe had a field on Farm Road just by the lane leading to the station,he kept pigs and a horse there.I loved to go down there and help( or hinder) with the hay making and feeding the animals.

We lived at 40 Prince Street ,which was the corner house where the road went up to Garn Road.Then  we moved to Gwent Terrace,that's where I lived until I moved to Abertillery.
Anthony Earl-Williams

How far have we come

Sunbeam, I take it you are still living in Abertillery?
That must be St. Anne's Nantyglo you attended?  I never went there but of course the people at St. John's, Six Bells knew of it.
My eldest brother Derek went to Nantyglo Grammar which, I believe, was a very good school indeed. He went on to read chemistry at Cardiff (with National Service in between) and lives at Dinas Powys.
You mention the station: I used to love the train ride from Six Bells Halt up to Brynmawr, stopping at Blaina and Nantyglo. Still steam; there was just something magical about it. The engines were sort of small and "chunky" if you know what I mean.
The one funny thing about the various Grammar Schools was the lottery, by which I mean WHERE you ended up. Girls and boys in Aberbeeg for instance, having to go to Newbridge or Nantyglo. What a terribly tiring journey before the school day even started.  I was just so lucky that my "lottery ticket" was Abertillery so that I could walk to school!  My brother Derek said it wasn't fair!  He was also cross that I was too young to do National Service.  Wasn't my fault, was it!
Thanks for your message to Eddie.
Anthony
Eddie legge

Gwilliam Family

In reply to Sunbeam Family
Are you related to the Gwilliam family
I believe it was Joe who had a small holding on farm road I believe his brother Jimmy played in the back row for Ebbw Vale
I was told he would walk over the mountain to the rugby ground in Ebbw Vale before a match
when my wife and I lived on the Coed Cae  27 The Cresent in 1960 Joe
Gwilliam was living just below us  

Eddie Legge
sunbeam

Anthony Earl Williams,
Yes I did mean St.Anne's Nantyglo,I was one of 5 children and we all went there. One thing that is interesting about it is that when we were young the alter was at the west end of the church and now it's at the east.The inside of the church has been turned completly around but it's still a pretty little church.
I know St John's in Six bells and it's a lovely church,we'll be going to the Ordination of their new vicar in March.
Yes I  was lucky and went to Hafod y ddol and I know what you mean about a lottery because quite a few people I remember came up from Abertillery and over from Ebbw Vale.
This is a nice thread isn't it,I suppose that's because It's interesting to me. Very Happy
sunbeam

Eddie Legge, Yes my mother was a Gwillym before she married and Joe was her brother ,so was Jim and yes ,he was a good rugby player and I know he played for Abertillery because 40 years ago when we moved into our first house he came to visit us and he said he'd been in the house before.It turned out he had played rugby and had been friendly  with the man who used to live there when he was a young boy.Isn't that a coincidence !My brothers would know more details about his rugby playing than me I expect.
Yes , you're right Uncle Joe and Aunty Lilian used to live at 36 (I think)The Cresent after they moved from Bayllises Row.
My brother Peter says there's an Eddie Legge that lives just around the corner from him and his family were from Beacon View,have we got the right one ?Or am I being too nosey,sorry. Embarassed
Eddie legge

Becon View

Sunbeam no you are not nosey
I did live in Becon View No 8
We moved from Forge Row in1952
we had no mod cons in Forge Row
I can  remember my mother kneeling down in
the bath room in our new flat doing the washing  with a scrubbing board
But mam you dont have to wash clothes that way any more
She thought it was wonderful hot water straight from the tap  
As a member of Garn Working mens club my fathers second home
The club would take upwards of 8 bus loads of members and their children to the seaside every year
Nantyglo is now the ghost town of Blaenau Gwent

Eddie Legge

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