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Llanhilleth marriage 1902

On my grandfather's marriage certificate dated 30th August 1902 it states that he was married in the parish church Llanhilleth.  I am wondering which church this is as I thought it was St Illtyd's but have recently found out that there is St Marks in the centre of Llanhilleth.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
stoob

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Feasible St. Marks was built 1898 I believe.
The Reverend Daniel Felix lived at the Rectory in 1901.
stoob

Llanhilleth marriage 1902

The marriage record on Ancestry and Free BMD shows her name as Helen Gertrude Cinderby while Family search shows Cinderley, obviously a transposition error somewhere. Strange that the certificate doesn't say the actual church rather than the parish. I can't see any more details on the records I have access to, they only give the reference needed to get the marriage certificate but she has that already.

I would suggest that she contacts Janet Karn at Tredegar library by email or phone to see if the actual church records show anything. Alternatively the Gwent Family History Society may be able to help, they have some records, they list St Illyd's baptisms and burials. People often get married where the woman was baptised as that was her family's church.

Courtesy of Marj & Ian Hickman.
dragongirl

Hi stoob
I have a marriage for Helen Gertrude Cinderby  in 1902 to either Isaac Webb or David Thomas. The wedding took place in Pontypool-
Marriage District of Pontypool Mon Volume 11a  Page 230
I think you`ll find this is the Pontypool Registry Office which seemed to cover Llanhilleth. My Aunt was married  there and she lived in Brynithel at the time
  Hope it helps .
Dragongirl
stoob

Llanhilleth marriage 1902

Hi Dragongirl, you are correct with both Helen Gertrude Cinderby and Isaac Webb, is Reverend Felix mentioned on there ?
dragongirl

Rev Daniel Felix

Hi Stoob

Gone back through Censuses He was born in1854 in Aberaon
n Cardiganshire
1871 Census living CilGenny  Aberaon
1881     "living   St Beas Whitehaven  Church of England Minister
married  wife from London
1901  living Abercarn as above
1911   living in Rectory in Aberbeeg as above no children on any Census just one housemaid,
Hope this helps can1t find anything on Isaac Webb
Will look for  Rev Felix`s   Death  etc late ron
Dragongirl
stoob

Llanhilleth marriage 1902

Yes, new Reverend Felix was St. Bees, however the spelling.
Regards Isaac Webb he was living Alexandra Road, Six Bells early 1906 and New Princess Street, Abertillery late 1906.
dragongirl

Daniel Felix

Hi stoob.
 Death notice Feb 11th 1930
  Daniel Felix of Llanhilleth  Rectory Aberbeeg Mon, Clerk in Holy Orders  died at 202 Newport, Road East Cardiff  aged 75years with his wife present.
Burial  Grave Block A No 30  1st burial cost 4 .80.
Ceremony performed  by;-
The Lord Bishop of Monmouth  DR. Royce
Reverend B Jones Evans- MAR
Reverend S .G .Morgan
Reverend T Madog Williams  BA,
He had a good send off - Cemetery not named but either Christchurch or Brynithel I would have thought. The Rectory was handed back to Davis LLoyd and Wilson  53 High Street Newport .in
July 1930 and a sum paid to the Widow
Doesn`t say what for unless fixtures and fittings they had added,to
the home.
      Will search out  Isaac Webb no local births on any List I have
but will keep looking,
Dragongirl
 Ps this computer doesn`t like any Welsh words evidently !!!!
stoob

Llanhilleth marriage 1902

Mostly sorted as far as it can go "Emerald", just a question of which church the marriage took place.
Know a bloke well up in St. Illtyd matters so will see if records still exist for that year.
Thanks for the information on the reverend Felix nonetheless, notice Madog Williams on there he was another big hitter in Abertillery.
dragongirl

Isaac Webb

Hi Stoob
Another Mystery
1901 census  has
Isaac Webb  Boarder Single born Lydbrook Glos living at Bryngwyn terrace  Tillery Road aged 24 and a Coal miner
        with Head of family
John Driscoll head  57 yrs  Miner  Ireland, Naomi  wife 55yrs Risca

On 1911 Census has Isaac Webb  34 yrs born Lydbrook  Glos coal miner Living at Monto House Duke street \Abertillery with wife
JANE WEBB  and two children Ivy May Webb aged 6yrs and Idris William Augustine Webb under Iyear A codical states Married 2 yrs
so whose child is Ivy May? Jane was born in Lydbrook glos and was s39yrs to his 34yrs Can`t find her surname or their marriage
Get`s murkier by the minute.
Dragongirl  or emerald dragon !!!
Eileen
stoob

Llanhilleth marriage 1902

Guess Helenb could answer that one but believe he did marry again, believe the family did live 76 Duke Street pre 1922.
aber42

Isaac Webb

An Isaac Webb married a Jane Best Free BMD  Cheltenham  The Idris Augustus William was born Bedwellty and also the Ivy May and if this Isaac married Helen first there is a death for an Ellen Gertrude Webb Free BMD Bedwellty  hope this helps
stoob

Llanhilleth marriage 1902

Isaac Webb lost his wife Helen during childbirth in 1906.
Believe Idris was the father of "helenb", and the family left Abertillery in 1922.
Great contributions though.
helenb

Llanhilleth marriage 1902

Thank you everyone for your helpful info.  Just to clarify Isaac Webb born Lydbrook married Helen Gertrude Cinderby in Llanhilleth August 1902.  In 1904 they had a daughter, Ivy May.  In June 1906 Helen gave birth to twins but in the process died herself.  One twin was still born, and the other Maurice Stanley, lived for three months but died in September 1906.  Isaac remarried to Jane Best of Cheltenham in September 1908 and in 1910 they had a son, Idris William Augustus, who was my father.  The family moved to Bath in 1922.  Isaac, Jane and Idris all died in Bath and are buried here at the local cemetery not far from where I live now.
I am still not sure which church Isaac and Helen were married in but have made contact with someone at Tredegar library who may be able to help.
Thank you all for your interest in my question.
Helen

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