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Rocke

Margaret Thatcher Dies - Labourite View?

Apparently (according to the BBC 1pm News) Labour sources are stating that they hope any comments regarding Lady Thatcher's death will be dignified and recognise her contribution to politics.

So, 'Eddie Legge' - what IS your view ?

PS any other reader contributions are welcome.
Eddie legge

In Reply to Dave Rocke

Thatcher the closest I got to the heartless Iron lady was when during the miners strike of 84 I took her photo down in the Blaina Cons club and smashed it over my knee a life ban from the club
After practically a life time of abusing alcohol as a beverage I have for a number of years been booze free, I will however have a couple of cans tonight
The Television now is all we can hear about Thatcher
A state funeral for the one who gave the order to sink the Argentina Battle Ship General Belgrano, That order was given while talks of peace were still being discussed, When sunk the Belgrano was outside the  British declared Exclusion Zone  and was no threat to task force, 323 sailors were drowned and next day the Tory Sun said Gotcha
And closer to home the miners strike of 1984 Thatcher and Tebbit said we must defeat Scargil and the miners at all cost
Under her leadership the cavalry with truncheons’ were used to combat striking miners and the ones who dared to protest over dreaded Poll Tax
Before the Argentina crises and the miners strike Thatcher's future as PM was uncertain         
I do not wish to speak ill of the dead, neither on this occasion will I have a good thing to say
Jim Nicholas

She had the courage to rescue the country from the mess resulting from nationalisation with trade unions having the power to resist any attempt to reduce the massive losses, the cost of which had to be borne by profitable industry which was driven abroad in order to survive. She saved Britain.
Ian Jones

From a Newspaper article.

At home, Mrs. Thatcher’s political successes were decisive. She broke the power of the labor unions and forced the Labour Party to abandon its commitment to nationalized industry, redefine the role of the welfare state and accept the importance of the free market.





I see we have her to thank for "redefining" the role of the welfare state.
stoob

Yes Jim truely appreciated by her own party ..........Et Tu Brute.
martyn142

Thatcher's strongest legacy in my opinion was New Labour. Economic and social policies can be reversed by future governments. However, Thatcher shifted the political spectrum so that there is now, and hasn't been for some decades, no party willing to do that. As someone said on the radio this morning "Can you imagine Tony Blair without there having been Margaret Thatcher?"  I'd say the comment holds true of Milliband and his Oxbridge cabinet.

Thatcher ensured the Labour party went from being a socialist party to a right-of-centre social democratic party which, when last in office, operated Thatcherite economic policies, Thatcherite union laws and even had its own war. You can thank her for the complete lack of choice among the major parties in modern-day Britain.

That being said, I wasted all the energy I'm prepared to waste on Thatcher in the 1980s. If I had to express a view I'd say I'm glad she's gone, but, other than the odd comment on an internet message board, I'd rather ignore her death and get on with my own life.
martyn142

Re: In Reply to Dave Rocke

Eddie legge wrote:
during the miners strike of 84 I took her photo down in the Blaina Cons club

So Eddie Legge was a member of the Cons club  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
Eddie legge

Martyn 142 Eddie Legge has never been a menber of Conservitave club  in Blaina or anywhere
One dosnt have to be a member he can still be given a life ban from  entering the premises
Shall I assume that you sent the above in from your place of work again Martyn if so what a naughty boy
martyn142

Eddie legge wrote:
Martyn 142 Eddie Legge has never been a menber of Conservitave club  in Blaina or anywhere
One dosnt have to be a member he can still be given a life ban from  entering the premises
Shall I assume that you sent the above in from your place of work again Martyn if so what a naughty boy

I apologise Eddie. It would be true to say you were happy to sup in the Cons club though eh? Call yourself a Labourite.  Embarassed  

So far as where I have posted from you may assume what you like. And if I had sent it from work I would only be a naughy boy if my company banned use of mobile phones, wouldn't I?

What a strange little man you are.  Laughing
stoob

Believe Thatcher's hatchet man Macgregor was brought to the UK by good old Jimmy Callaghan.
Ian Jones

Why would someone who had such strong consevative bashing views drink in an Conservative club as a non member IE: guest ( i take it a member was buying your drinks for you Ed) and also behave so disgracefully to boot ? PS: not you Stoob  Laughing
Rocke

Jim Nicholas wrote:
She had the courage to rescue the country from the mess resulting from nationalisation with trade unions having the power to resist any attempt to reduce the massive losses, the cost of which had to be borne by profitable industry which was driven abroad in order to survive. She saved Britain.


In my opinion she brought (what was then) Great Britain/the UK back from the brink created by despotic union leaders and showed the world we weren't to be messed with.
Then she took us back to it by cosying up to Reagan and provoking class warfare.
If only Geoffrey Howe had spoken 5 years or so earlier and/or the Tory Grandees realised what she was bringing about and had the bottle to do something about it.
Rocke

martyn142 wrote:
Thatcher's strongest legacy in my opinion was New Labour. Economic and social policies can be reversed by future governments. However, Thatcher shifted the political spectrum so that there is now, and hasn't been for some decades, no party willing to do that. As someone said on the radio this morning "Can you imagine Tony Blair without there having been Margaret Thatcher?"  I'd say the comment holds true of Milliband and his Oxbridge cabinet.

Thatcher ensured the Labour party went from being a socialist party to a right-of-centre social democratic party which, when last in office, operated Thatcherite economic policies, Thatcherite union laws and even had its own war. You can thank her for the complete lack of choice among the major parties in modern-day Britain.

That being said, I wasted all the energy I'm prepared to waste on Thatcher in the 1980s. If I had to express a view I'd say I'm glad she's gone, but, other than the odd comment on an internet message board, I'd rather ignore her death and get on with my own life.


Great post Martyn, in my view.

I'd also add that a major legacy was that she left us chained by privatised organisations that turned from monopolies into what are in effect cartels. We're all paying the price of the privatisation of energy companies and BT.

Another is the divisiveness.
What's the odds that we'll have the unbecoming and highly undignified spectacle of some form of demonstration at her funeral?

Power corrupts, and absolute power etc. etc.
She thought she had it.
Rocke

Ian Jones wrote:
From a Newspaper article.

At home, Mrs. Thatcher’s political successes were decisive. She broke the power of the labor unions and forced the Labour Party to abandon its commitment to nationalized industry, redefine the role of the welfare state and accept the importance of the free market.





I see we have her to thank for "redefining" the role of the welfare state.


Not from The Gruniard is it Ian?   Very Happy
I'd have thought the word was 'deVisive', listening to the views of people in Yorkshire and Liverpool.
Any party coming after her government couldn't afford to re-nationalise, even if it wanted to.

And she did redefine the role of the Welfare State.
Emptied the Redundancy Payments Fund and robbed the Maternity Pay Fund in order to prop it up, then forced employers into SSP and SMP, and when the Welfare State's core principle ie. that those in work contribute to the support of those out of it, became economically unviable she came up with the idea of selling off the family heirlooms.
She wouldn't have cared of course - it would be future government(s) that would have to get by somehow.

I don't think she'll be remembered for the good things she brought about.
Rocke

Re: In Reply to Dave Rocke

Eddie legge wrote:
Thatcher the closest I got to the heartless Iron lady was when during the miners strike of 84 I took her photo down in the Blaina Cons club and smashed it over my knee a life ban from the club
After practically a life time of abusing alcohol as a beverage I have for a number of years been booze free, I will however have a couple of cans tonight
The Television now is all we can hear about Thatcher
A state funeral for the one who gave the order to sink the Argentina Battle Ship General Belgrano, That order was given while talks of peace were still being discussed, When sunk the Belgrano was outside the  British declared Exclusion Zone  and was no threat to task force, 323 sailors were drowned and next day the Tory Sun said Gotcha
And closer to home the miners strike of 1984 Thatcher and Tebbit said we must defeat Scargil and the miners at all cost
Under her leadership the cavalry with truncheons’ were used to combat striking miners and the ones who dared to protest over dreaded Poll Tax
Before the Argentina crises and the miners strike Thatcher's future as PM was uncertain         
I do not wish to speak ill of the dead, neither on this occasion will I have a good thing to say


I have to say that you've conjured up a wonderful vision in my mind of you, rambo-esque, doing that to her photo Eddie !
I really would have liked to have seen it.
And I've a vision of you last night, a smile of quiet contentment on your face, lying in the armchair, a few empty cans beside you watching every news channel the remote can get you.
You didn't put your foot through the telly did you?

I don't agree with your views on the Argies.
Personally I'd have given them 3 days to leave and then simply sent the bombers to Buenos Aires and the hunter killer subs to Puerto Belgrano. It would have avoided the deaths of 255 of ours.
I'd also have told them that if they don't take their dead home they'll be fish food.
Thatcher was far too soft in my view.......   Twisted Evil
martyn142

Rocke wrote:
And she did redefine the role of the Welfare State.
Emptied the Redundancy Payments Fund and robbed the Maternity Pay Fund in order to prop it up, then forced employers into SSP and SMP, and when the Welfare State's core principle ie. that those in work contribute to the support of those out of it, became economically unviable she came up with the idea of selling off the family heirlooms.
She wouldn't have cared of course - it would be future government(s) that would have to get by somehow.

It was also her government which shifted people off unemployment benefit and onto sickness and disability benefits, in order to reduce the topline unemployment figure. Now the Con-Dems are trying to sort out that mess on her behalf.
Eddie legge

Whatever is said about Thatcher 20 years ago her one time devoted cabinet minister Geoffrey Howe said it all, His speech that day, It may as Denis Healy said have been the equivalent of being savaged by a dead sheep – but it was enough
Thatcher said she would fight on, but it was all over
Rocke

martyn142 wrote:
Rocke wrote:
And she did redefine the role of the Welfare State.
Emptied the Redundancy Payments Fund and robbed the Maternity Pay Fund in order to prop it up, then forced employers into SSP and SMP, and when the Welfare State's core principle ie. that those in work contribute to the support of those out of it, became economically unviable she came up with the idea of selling off the family heirlooms.
She wouldn't have cared of course - it would be future government(s) that would have to get by somehow.

It was also her government which shifted people off unemployment benefit and onto sickness and disability benefits, in order to reduce the topline unemployment figure. Now the Con-Dems are trying to sort out that mess on her behalf.


Ah yes.
Metamorphosised the number of Unemployed onto those "Unemployed and receiving benefit". Almost halved the monthly bad news in one fell swoop.
The peculiar thing is that when a Labour Govt next got in power it didn't undo her 'statistical dexterity'.
Which reinforces your original post Martyn re. how her biggest legacy.
Rocke

Eddie legge wrote:
Whatever is said about Thatcher 20 years ago her one time devoted cabinet minister Geoffrey Howe said it all, His speech that day, It may as Denis Healy said have been the equivalent of being savaged by a dead sheep – but it was enough
Thatcher said she would fight on, but it was all over


Very true indeed.
Eddie legge

Tell us Dave Rocke what would have happened to the civilian population living on the Falklands lf Thatcher had sent her bombers to Buenos Aires Let us not forget the Argies were already armed and stationed on the Falklands,
kdwent

Eddie legge wrote:
Tell us Dave Rocke what would have happened to the civilian population living on the Falklands lf Thatcher had sent her bombers to Buenos Aires Let us not forget the Argies were already armed and stationed on the Falklands,



Probably the same as happened in Iraq after Blair decided to invade looking for weapons of mass destruction.
Sorry to go off topic but i refuse to waste any time or effort on thatcher.
Rocke

Eddie legge wrote:
Tell us Dave Rocke what would have happened to the civilian population living on the Falklands lf Thatcher had sent her bombers to Buenos Aires Let us not forget the Argies were already armed and stationed on the Falklands,


Nothing as bad as what would have happened to the Argentinian populace in Buenos Airies (or the next city once that had been razed to the ground), and of course, just like the war, we'd have comfortably won the numbers game.

I think you also forget that the islanders were prisoners while we were turfing the Argies out, live or dead. I don't recall them being used as hostages, or Thatcher expressing any concern about collateral damage.

Once the populace had their corned beef factories destroyed, no places to work, no wages coming in, no ability to hit back at an attacker who struck at will and with deadly force I think they'd soon direct their wrath inwards.
Would have been nice to see Galtieri suffer the same fate as Mussolini, in my rabid opinion.
Rocke

kdwent wrote:
Eddie legge wrote:
Tell us Dave Rocke what would have happened to the civilian population living on the Falklands lf Thatcher had sent her bombers to Buenos Aires Let us not forget the Argies were already armed and stationed on the Falklands,



Probably the same as happened in Iraq after Blair decided to invade looking for weapons of mass destruction.
Sorry to go off topic but i refuse to waste any time or effort on thatcher.


Good point.
We behaved like big bullies there, and as a Brit I'm ashamed of it.
Eddie legge

Why should we have to pay

Reasons why we shouldn't have to pay or show Thatcher any respect


by michael usher
Petition Organizer
1. She supported the retention of capital punishment
2. She destroyed the country's manufacturing industry
3. She voted against the relaxation of divorce laws
4. She abolished free milk for schoolchildren ("Margaret Thatcher, Milk Snatcher")
5. She supported more freedom for business (and look how that turned out)
6. She gained support from the National Front in the 1979 election by pandering to the fears of immigration
7. She gerrymandered local authorities by forcing through council house sales, at the same time preventing councils from spending the money they got for selling houses on building new houses (spending on social housing dropped by 67% in her premiership)
8. She was responsible for 3.6 million unemployed - the highest figure and the highest proportion of the workforce in history and three times the previous government. Massaging of the figures means that the figure was closer to 5 million
9. She ignored intelligence about Argentinian preparations
martyn142

Are you completely incapable of thinking and writing anything for yourself?
kdwent

The real irony is that the woman who was the queen of privatisation is now going to get a state funeral which is in effect a state funded funeral. So does this make her the ultimate hypocrite or just another scrounger.
Rocke

kdwent wrote:
The real irony is that the woman who was the queen of privatisation is now going to get a state funeral which is in effect a state funded funeral. So does this make her the ultimate hypocrite or just another scrounger.


No, just another politician.

"I make the laws and everyone will obey them, except me of course".

Tax havens, offshore accounts, expenses, second homes.
I'm sure I've omitted something................
stoob

Is Prince Albert on the guest list ?
Only asked because he threw the "Undesirable" Mark Thatcher out of Monaco in 2005.
Rocke

He doesn't have to be asked apparently because it isn't a state funeral (in name anyway).

It's how they've got out of inviting El Presidente Argie.

Anyone know if the Beckhams have wangled a ticket ?
Sure to be huge publicity if they have.

Btw, this thread now appears to have evolved into 'all things Thatcher'.  I'm happy for it to continue so.
Eddie legge

Martyn 142 Eddie are you completely incapable of thinking and writing anything for yourself
Reply Did you not know that for the past fifteen years Eddie alone has been a regular letters contributor to Gwent Gazette Argus and Western Mail; I honestly believe Martyn 142 is more anti Eddie than labour
And as for my love of  the party I grew up with it has on times been torn ,but not beyond repair Just like a family Martyn things don’t always happen as one would want,
I was brought up to believe and did practise most when in the workplace Tis them and us, overtime was bad, a trade union member should create work for another and that the only weapons the workers had was to withdraw their labour
What has happened to the above since the sad demise of Heavy industry, and the dole queues of today    
I can remember when R T B Ebbw Vale employed ten thousand workers on the books with a very large number indirectly employed; the collieries were for some a lifetime occupation,    
The labour party has done most to bring employment closer to home Redeveloping of Steel works site and with the Ebbw Valley Rail Link and duelling of Heads of Valley road has given better access for travel, shopping, entertainment and most importantly jobs    
Martyn I am not alone when saying how proud I am to have been born and raised in the valleys that gave birth to Comradeship and song Nye Bevan and the Welfare State  
Tis where we truly belong
martyn142

On the plus side I am sure that is all your own work eddie legge.  Smile

On the other hand it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject under discussion.  Crying or Very sad

By the way, I'm not sure if you realised but this is the Abertillery message board. I only mention it as your post relates entirely to Ebbw Vale and ignores our town altogether. In that respect you truly are representative of the local party eddie legge.
Eddie legge

Day off Martyn 142 or was your reply to me from your
place of work again, and if so  
Did one of your Forum spies contact you about Eddie's posting to day Is it only on Abertillery Forum that you complain and condem why not use the local press, Let the whole of Blaenau Gwent know about the man who would rather lose his spleen than vote labour If you do reply from work or home tell me where elce in Blaenau Gwent apart from Ebbw Vale steel works was more than 10 thousand workers employed
Back to my reply it was you who went of track,Because of my posting about a petition over Thatcher's funeral
kdwent

Eddie legge wrote:
Day off Martyn 142 or was your reply to me from your
place of work again, and if so  
Did one of your Forum spies contact you about Eddie's posting to day Is it only on Abertillery Forum that you complain and condem why not use the local press, Let the whole of Blaenau Gwent know about the man who would rather lose his spleen than vote labour If you do reply from work or home tell me where elce in Blaenau Gwent apart from Ebbw Vale steel works was more than 10 thousand workers employed
Back to my reply it was you who went of track,Because of my posting about a petition over Thatcher's funeral


Can I please ask you Eddie, why it is that you have such a bee in your bonnet about where Martyn 142 posts from?  Would you also be so kind as to name his spies as I'm sure we would all be interested to know if we are numbered amongst them.

By the way the majority of my posts are made via my phone

I apologise for going off subject and if admin wish to move this to a new topic that may be for the best.
Jim Nicholas

Ebbw Vale had a huge geographical disadvantage - it was a long way from the ports which imported it's iron ore and a long way from its customers. Its only chance of survival was to be more competitive than the steelworks on a coast but Eugene Cross, the labour "mayor" of Ebbw Vale and the Personnel Manager at the works declared that there was a job at the works for any unemployed man in Ebbw Vale. The works was grossly over manned and lost out to Llanwern and Port Talbot and was closed. Eugene Cross was seen as a hero in Ebbw Vale ! Similarly the coal industry lost most of its market  when ships, trains, power stations and homes moved to oil or gas because they were cheaper and/or easier to handle. The nationalised coal industry was losing millions (only 4 pits in the country were profitable) and the idiot Scargill demanded a 35% pay rise and then called a strike when his demand was rejected. Scargill is seen as a hero by his members who lost their jobs and who cannot see that there could only be a chance of survival for those pits which could compete in the market  for energy.
martyn142

Yes team legge I have team of spies whose sole reason for living is to report on your inane, semi -literate ramblings. Or, possibly I just check the forum occasionally. Crazy huh?

By the way, it has been a dream since I was a small boy to have a letter printed in the Gwent Gazette. You are truly living the dream eddie legge.

Posted from my sofa on six bells. Slightly overcast but no rain. Watching Frank Sinatra on YouTube. Just off to bed.
Ian Jones

martyn142 wrote:

Posted from my sofa on six bells. Slightly overcast but no rain. Watching Frank Sinatra on YouTube. Just off to bed.




Martyn do you lean toward the left or the right ?
when typing on your phone that is.
I only ask as i'm sure that would be of more interest to Mr Legge rather than your political leaning that is.
And Eddie i for one am no one's "Spy" i am just clearing that up just incase  you think  "I"  have multiple persona's  Wink
stoob

Likes to think patriotism by purchasing the supposed local rag, the one week in week out with West Wales sport, Cardiff entertainment and cars for sale in Swansea,wouldn't have it as a freebie.
Patriot who banks with Santander........Franco would have been proud of him.
stoob

Back to the thread, they reckon ding dong the wicked witch is dead will make number 3 in the music chart tomorrow.
martyn142

Poor taste maybe stoob, but I was still surprised when I heard they had effectively banned playing it (4 seconds isn't it they are allowing  Laughing )
kdwent

martyn142 wrote:
Poor taste maybe stoob, but I was still surprised when I heard they had effectively banned playing it (4 seconds isn't it they are allowing  Laughing )


just another example of the erosion of free speech which politicians of all colours are imposing on us.
Eddie legge

Martyn 142 Why reply to a person’s inane semi, literate ramblings
Most especially during work hours even if on mobile phone
Kidwent don’t have a bee in my bonnet, because I posted about Thatcher funeral
Martyn in his reply was very insulting
Stoop would you explain why in your reply to me why you said Patriot who banks with Santander and that Franco would have been proud of him
Now to the Forums Mr Know all Jim Nicholas
RTB Ebbw Vale employed a very large number of workers from the whole of Blaenau Gwent and not only from Ebbw Vale We knows who closed the coal mines and the steel industry was hit by world recession
Back to why should we pay for Thatcher’s funeral?
Thanks to the coal industry’s destruction Briton is now suffering from energy supply crises that can only worsen
T    The coal industry was never going to survive as it had been, but that’s not the point. A government has a moral responsibility for its population, but Thatcher heartlessly snuffed out thriving communities. The Tories spent £6 billion during the strike to defeat the NUM and would eventually spend £26 billion to dismantle the mining industry, leaving a nationwide residue of ghost towns rife with unemployment, drug addiction and anti-social behaviour.
Now because of Thatcher’s death the public and not the private sector has to pay upwards of £10 million pounds to have her 87 year old body paraded around the capital not a state but a ceremonial funeral
martyn142

That was a weird post Team Legge. The first half is the usual barely readable drivel. Then the second half is spelled correctly and grammatically correct. It's almost as if it were the work of more than one person....

Eddie legge watch: posted from my HTC One X in the car (passenger). Light rain. On the way to Manchester and then Coventry.b
Rocke

This now appears to have evolved into 'all things Thatcher and Legge' and I'm happy for it to continue so.
Rocke

Eddie legge wrote:
....... the collieries were for some a lifetime occupation


Yes, quite a few died down them. How many Tories?

Eddie legge wrote:
The labour party has done most to bring employment closer to home


Are you referring to the Kinnocks, or nepotism in general ?

Anyway, what an insult to the memory of probably the greatest Conservative and one of our greatest Prime Ministers ever, Sir Winston Churchill.

I just about remember his funeral, in black and white, the streets teeming as the gun carriage bearing his coffin took him on his last journey.
The streets thronging with proud and grateful Brits, most with tears pouring down their faces.

'Winnie' wasn't looked upon as a Tory, a warmonger. He was revered, not simply for leading a country that won the most decisive war ever but leading it to victory by uniting the country.
I think at that time we were all Brits, we all stood together, united in a cause.

On Wednesday the police will be keeping us apart, for the divisions that she caused will become apparent.
On Thursday the papers will divide along their absurd party political lines. The Mirror leading those who will highlight dissatisfaction and the ludicrous stale current bun pointing out the 'millions who turned out or tuned in all across the country to say goodbye to Britain's best-loved Prime Minister'.
All the foreign newspapers will be reporting on the demonstrations - riot even - that took place.  

Btw - has the Pound risen or fallen as a result of her demise?
Ian Jones

Why is it that if someone's Mother dies and any of her immediate family have modest savings they recieve no help at all with funeral expence's, yet Mrs Thatcher will have a funeral paid for by the tax payer and in a few weeks time we will no doubt see plastered all over the tabloids the gross ( in several definitions of the word ) ammount that will be left to pinky and perky Thatcher.
If they were paying for the funeral i dare say it would be a more modest affair.
Surely someone can  freeze here estate and mount a legal challenge?
Eddie legge

Why should the public show any kind of respect or love towards Margaret Thatcher?  
When her own son and daughter couldent be bothered to visit their very ill mother
What a comfort it would have been for the Iron Lady to have had  Mark and Carol at her bedside
aber42

Margaret Thatcher

Is it not time to let things be and just say RIP  Mrs Thatcher?
Saeson

I must confess to being rather puzzled by the whole thing. She was only the Prime Minister and that was over two decades ago; I can`t imagine Tony Blair having some razzmatazz send-off at our expense (and rightly so).

I can`t see what sets her apart from the others (politically I mean, not the other stuff). There was the Falkands I suppose, but that was always going to be a one-sided affair and the good citizens of the British Isles were never in any peril.

She`ll be last weeks`s news soon, just as it should be.
stoob

Team Legge.....you had a dig at Martyn about informing the "Whole" of Blaenau Gwent if he tendered an article in the local rag. In the first instance I would opine that less than 20% of the populous read this comic so a tad off line there.
Regards your banking with Santander you prerogative but some of us less staunch patriots use the Monmouthshire, Principality and Abertillery Credit Union all based in the town.
Roll on the revolution.
Eddie legge

Stoob Who says Eddie banks with Santander
stoob

You did......you were the first customer in the Abertillery phone shop before you went to Santander....quote.
Rocke

Re: Margaret Thatcher

aber42 wrote:
Is it not time to let things be and just say RIP  Mrs Thatcher?


Yes - but 'they' won't let it be so.
The Government want to score political points on Law and Order, hence the provocation of a military funeral, the stale currant bun wants another 'Gotcha'-style headline, the BBC's used it as an example of how independent it is, ignoring the public's clear view and carrying on with its own agenda of cosying up to the Government (did you know that the Licence Fee is up for review next year ie. under this Government?).

Surely 'Baroness Thatcher has died. She passed away peacefully in her sleep this morning' was sufficient?
The tributes etc. have served to ignite the furore and the publicity has fuelled the flames.

I've said it before and it's proven - she was the most divisive PM we've ever had.
Rocke

O2's owned by Telefonica, the largest Spanish multi-national.

PS this thread has now evolved into 'anything about Thatcher, Eddie Legge, and economic invasion' and I'm happy for it to be so.
Rocke

stoob wrote:
You did......you were the first customer in the Abertillery phone shop before you went to Santander....quote.


Perhaps he meant the place Bry.
It's a nice ferry ride apparently.
martyn142

stoob wrote:
You did......you were the first customer in the Abertillery phone shop before you went to Santander....quote.

That was the other eddie legge stoob.  Laughing
Eddie legge

When Alliance and Leister were in Blaina it was at the time very convenient for my family and I doing business with them whatever is said about Spanish owned Santander in Abertillery bothers me little, so why did Stoob have to trail over my past postings to check what Eddie said after all according to some they are not worth reading or replying to
As for Monmouthshire Principality and Abertillery Credit Union never heard of em  
I do however support the Gwent Gazette and so did Dave Rocke when a serving local councillor
When the Gazette moved to Merthyr I did write to Ian Caleb reporter hoping the Gazette wouldn’t lose its local identity, in his reply he said how important local news and letters were I am disappointed to say that it has not been so
I believe Ian has now left the Gazette, However it is true about Gazette not being so popular my local newsagent once selling 300 a week down now to barely a 100
I believe the Gazette started up in Abertillery in 1969, When Peter Law died they did a special edition. And when Trish Law was campaigning to win her late husbands Welsh Assembly seat the very week of voting Front page “GO FOR IT MAM”
The latest on Thatcher apparently the multi million pound home  where she lived was not owned by her, Talk of the real owners involved with tax havens abroad and son Mark in 2004 his wealth was estimated at up £60million
kdwent

Wonder which of team legge wrote the above?
martyn142

Eddie legge wrote:
why did Stoob have to trail over my past postings to check what Eddie said

Oh the irony! Smile You seem to spend half your life checking over what others have written.

Any comment on the WAO report eddies?
Rocke

Eddie legge wrote:

I do however support the Gwent Gazette and so did Dave Rocke when a serving local councillor


Ahem.... what makes you think I don't now Eddie?

Don't tell me the Misleader of the Council is having my rubbish searched !
Rocke

martyn142 wrote:
Eddie legge wrote:
why did Stoob have to trail over my past postings to check what Eddie said

Oh the irony! Smile You seem to spend half your life checking over what others have written.

Any comment on the WAO report eddies?


Oops !!

09:32 on a Monday morning !
Office hours and you haven't informed us of where you were Martyn.

Leaving yourself open there Martyn.    Laughing

btw. This thread has now evolved into anything surrounding Thatcher, Eddie Legge, whatever the last thing I said it was evolving about and just about anything else, even other threads.
I'm happy for it to be so.
martyn142

Actually it was 9:32pm Rockey.  Smile

You were right to admonish me though. How is Team Eddie to be expected to keep the dossier up-to-date which I am told they have on me if I don't provide them with the basics facts?  Laughing

eddie legge watch: posted from my HTC One X. In Bristol. Weather mild and dry.
Rocke

martyn142 wrote:
Actually it was 9:32pm Rockey.  Smile

You were right to admonish me though. How is Team Eddie to be expected to keep the dossier up-to-date which I am told they have on me if I don't provide them with the basics facts?  Laughing

eddie legge watch: posted from my HTC One X. In Bristol. Weather mild and dry.


Ahem !

This one says 11:23 AM, you're in Brissle.
I take it you were on a fag break ??

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