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The Duke

Queen Street Junior

This year many of my old class mates at Queen Street Junior will be hitting the magic 65. It would be great to hear how many are still with us, who are still an Aber, or keep contact through this forum. To name but a few they include :- John Price, Terry Trickett, David Turner, Glenis Jones, Pat Price, Susan Price and Ann Blackmore. I have a school photo of this class and I remember that Ann Blackmore has a copy of the class list.
How do I attach the photo for this?

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Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street Junior

Hello Duke!
I am the Earl (as part of surname!!)
I am a babe at 60 but very fond memories of Queen Street, particularly Mr. Lovesey who taught us in top year. Mrs Brown not so nice. Miss Shellard started my interest in history. I was in her class the year she retired.
I consider that Queen Street gave us the best primary education that was available anywhere in Britain. At least the school still stands and continues the good work - unlike my beloved Grammar School. Have you seen the site I started for that?
Are you still in Abertillery?
Anthony Earl-Williams
The Duke

Queen Street Junior

Hi Anthony Yes I have seen and followed your forum with interest and I remember most of the teachers you refered to, however they were from my days at the Tech.
I think I had two favourite teachers at Queen Street Mr Bowen and Ron Francis. I last saw Ron in a pub in Blaina about 20 Years ago and he hadn't changed much. I think he as since passed on.
Who could forget Mr Cook the headmaster, a real gentleman. So many memories lets see if we can add to them through this forum as you have with the Grammer School.
In answer to your question do I still live in Abertillery I don't however I do visit when I am in the area.
Eddie legge

Queen Street School

In reply to The Duke
A Mr Ron Francis ex art school teacher Abertillery is living
today Glanystruth Cwm Celyn Blaina
He has sadly lost his wife these number of years

Eddie Legge
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street Juniors

Well, Duke, I think you must mean Hilda Hughes who lived in either Duke Street or Earl Street. Ha! Ha!
She never taught me but she was a life-long friend of my father's sister Betty - mentioned in the Grammar School site.
Hilda was so frightened of being burgled (what - in lovely Abertillery!?) that she kept a policeman's helmet in her hall for many years! There was NO policeman lodger, I assure you!
She had a sad ending and eventually couldn't move at all or even speak to my aunt on the phone.
I am sorry to hear she was a little cruel - and my aunt would not have approved of her ring treatment, I'm sure, particularly as it was young children.
Anthony
Robert

Queen Street Junior

Thanks for the information Eddie great to hear Ron Francis is still with us .
A great art teacher. Was it Ron who many years ago did the art work for either Ivor the Engine or Captain Pugwash? or is old age catching up on me.
admin

To bring the thread back on the theme for which it was created, here is a photo of a class at Queen Street School circa 1957, provided by The Duke.

Admin

pent boy

latest photo

Is it my computer or can everyone only see the top row in the photo?
pent boy

photo

Yes it was my computer, its ok now.
Mary Ann

Re: photo

Here are  a couple more photos of Queen Street pupils taken about 10 years later (1967?)
The teacher in the first photo is Mrs Connie Jones, and in the second photo
Mr Ken Hewitt

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Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street JUnior School

Thank you, Mary Ann,
      I remember Mrs Jones taught me in the first year of the Juniors when we'd come from the Infants.That would be 1958/1959.  There was also Mrs Sparks. Does anyone remember her? I recall she used to wear an overall - very sensible with small children!
I wish people would send in memories of Mrs Shellard who retired in about 1960. I was in her class that year. She often let me choose a hymn when the assembly was classroom based. She started my great love of history.
Anthony
Phillip T. Small

Couple of faces seem familiar on the second Colour Photo.... Urch, Puddy, Glyn Jones  ???
drone

A E-W please stop thread burgling. Your incessant requests are tiresome. If you must do it start your own thread where I can ignore you at my leisure.
admin

drone

As you will have noticed, I had made a gentle reminder to users that this thread was in danger of being hijacked. May I remind all users that there is little point in having separate sections and separate threads within each section if they all contain the same content i.e. Abertillery Grammar School. Please have some consideration for other users - because they went to Queen Street school doesn't mean they have any interest in the Grammar school.

Admin
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street School

I cannot see anything I mentioned on the Queen Street site that is irrelevant to the topic. Surely everything I mentioned about Hilda Hughes is indeed relevant.
And is it wrong to ask "does anyone remember Mrs Sparks?" or to want more information on Mrs Shellard, both of whom taught there for many years.
Don't worry, I shan't post anything else on the Queen Street pages.
Whoever this "Drone" is, he or she is very rude.
A E-W
David

lol    cyber fight
Phillip T. Small



Queen Street, circa Early 1960's
The Duke

Queen Street Junior

Hi Drone sorry to hear your leaving the forum. perhaps after some of the comments made you may reconsider.
Back to the subject, this thread was for two puposes , to start a thread for Queen Street and to try to find out about class mates who as I said would reach 65 this year.
The first seems to have been successful as there are now a number of photos being sent however I would still appreciate any information on the class mates shown in the photo of 1957.
To add a few more names Roger Moor. Robert Page and Brenda Watkins.
Phillip T. Small

I am trying to remember the names of those pictured from the 60's era.. I lived in Earl Street, Mrs Hughes, a very good family friend lived in number 15 I think, at the top of the cul-de-sac.

It would be great as The Duke said if names could be attached to faces.. There must be dozens of old pupils out there who recognise themselves.. Maybe better luck if a Face Book page was set up as I think more people [no offence] are on FB than on Message Boards. I'll set a page up later, you never know ..
dragongirl

Queen Street

Hi Philip
  Re your picture of Queen St is there any way to make it a bit bigger please
I can  see Mary Bishop on there and I think it`s my sister in the middle
row if so it would be the 50`s and she is 65 yr this yeartried a magnitying glass as well but old eyes not like they used to be !!!!
 I`ve tried to recall you but I can`t  this was before you "outed youself " as you put it!!! I remember your Parents Mary and Allan also you living in Earl St, I remember Denise Martin and your  Nan and Granch
. Your Nan used to visit my Mum a lot years ago.
Ps Is the teacher Mrs Parsons? a lovely lady my first teacher in nursery school .
Mary Ann

Re: Queen Street

I think that the teacher's name was Mrs Price. She taught my 3 children
in the 1960's.
lyndon1955

Remember  lots of faces but can only put names to a few at the moment.

Queen Street 1966

Picture 1
Row 3----2nd  from right Donald Wyatt
Row 2----4th  from left Hugh Phipps
Row 1----2nd  from right Keith Duggan

Picture 2
Row 3---- 1st  right Phillip Evans
Row 3---- 3rd  from right Richard Turner
Row 3---- 6th  from right Ian Mitchell
Row 2---- 2nd  from right Nigel Puddy

As a mater of interest the advertising hording in the background reads
Battle of Hasting 1066 Bottle of Guinness 1966
Phillip T. Small

Hi Dragon girl.. I have slightly enlarged the photo, any larger and it will lose definition.. I'll see if I still have the original. It might even have names on the back.

Some names I can recall are:- Kelvin Box, Roger Taylor, Martin Morley, Kerry Morris, Jacqueline Sullivan, Brian Garrish.. Faces are familiar for the rest, but be damned if I can remember their names !! I remember your sister Mary.

It would be the late 50's, but I'm sure it's the early 60's !!

My mother is still alive, Martin lives in Austrailia.. My Dad, Denise, Nan & Gramp have all passed away.
dragongirl

Queen Street

Hi Mary Ann
  Could she have been Miss Parsons ? Im going back to about 1944 when I was at Queen Street Infants  lovely class with a sand pit !!!! Just like going to Barry Island every day ,
dragongirl

Queen Street

Hi Philip  
      Thats great ---don`t they all look angelic?  some look familar but must be a  later year  It wasn`t until last week talking to my sister about this site that I found   that  Denise had died, so sorry,
I`ve  moved away over  25 years ago and though in regular contact
some news doesn`t filter through
Phillip T. Small

That was my class, I'm not on the photo, so can only assume that I was in hospital. I moved away in the early 70's and only lately moved back, well not quite back, but near enough to visit my mother. Denise passed away in August 1983.. A bit of a shock as it was sudden.... I'll have to show the photo to my mother, maybe she can put a date and a few more names to it... I'll see if my sister Jedith has any school photos, she waould have been 2 years down from me..

Regards

Phil
Carolyn

Re: Queen Street

Mary Ann wrote:
I think that the teacher's name was Mrs Price. She taught my 3 children
in the 1960's.


Was her name Betty Price ????? taught reception class in the 70's
Mary Ann

Re: Queen Street

Hello Carolyn,

I don't know whether we are on the same wavelength or even if I have
named the teacher correctly. The Mrs Price I am thinking of was †teaching in the Infants School in the  70's. I am not sure of her Christian name but
for some reason Doris rings a bell. † Her husband's name was Bryn
and they were both members of Ebenezer Church. They lived around
the Evelyn Street/Blyth Street area.
dragongirl

queen st school 1957`sh

Hi Duke
       I can only recognise two people on this picture  Lillian Jenkins and the girl she`s arm in arm with is a Price both from Princess Street My sister was in the same class as Lillian BUT  she hated and still does having her
photograph taken so guess she" vanished "!!!
  65 years ago doesn`t time fly!!!
The Duke

Queen Street Junior

Many thanks Dragongirl,
I can't remember the name of the girl next to Lillian but I can remember speaking to Lillian many years ago on one of my visits to Abertillery. I was just coming out of Pages the newsagent which was on Somerset Street I believe its now Mikes. We both recognised each other which considering it was over 30 years since we last saw each other was remarkable.
I must apologize for one of the names given previously, I wrote Roger Moor, it should have been Roger Poor Row 2 2nd left,who I understand was in the police force. He is standing next to Derek Bevan row 2 1st left

Name to faces :- Ist row 2nd left Pat Price
                                   4th lft Ann Blackmore
                                    5th rt Glenis Jones
                                    4th rt  Brenda Watkins  
                        2nd Row 1st rt Robert Page
                                      2nd rt Terry Trickett
                                      3rd rt David Turner
                                      5th rt Susan Price
                                      3rd lt Robert Pinkett
                        Back row 4th rt ????  England

I hope this helps for further information on the whereabouts of these old classmates
admin

Hello all

Apologies for the late response but I've been quite ill for a while and am only now getting back on my feet.

I hope the furore has now died down. In terms of the content of posts, I hope also you all accept that you are given quite a bit of leeway. Obviously it makes sense that, so far as is possible, threads don't wander too much or there is little point in having them! There did seem some 'danger' that this thread would become another Grammar School thread and I was keen to avoid that since there is a very vigorous thread on this same topic already in existence. My comment regarding 'hijacking' was too severe and I apologise for that. But to reiterate, my motive was solely to keep the theme focussed on Queen Street school.

Secondly, it has been pointed out to me that some personal comments, which I hopefully don't need to remind anyone are against the board policy, have remained uncensured - or uncensored come that that! One in particular was especially nasty and both have been removed. There seems little point at this late stage in admonishing the posters concerned. Can I once more refer everyone to our useage rules which can be found here:

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dragongirl

queen street photo

Hi Duke
  I  remem bered  the little girl with Lilian she  was Marina Price,  her sister  Sylvia was my age, as was Maud,Lilians sister. Maud and I  had our own reunion last year after nearly 60 years!!!!!

 We spent  a few days with he rand her husband in Pembroke where they had a second home-we were on our way to Ireland
They`ve sold up  in France now and live near their son in Nottingham
Lilian still lives in Malborough Rd
 Are you actually planning a reunion?get together?
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

that must all be about the time that Carol Mason was killed in front of the bus? I know Pauline was her younger sister. Pauline, Christine Tidey and I all in same year.
Anthony
The Duke

Queen Street Junior

Many thanks dragongirl,
We are now starting to get names attached to faces for the 1957 class.
A E-W reference Carol Mason, was this the little girl who got knocked down on Alexander Road at the bottom of the hill from Richmond Road. If so It was during the time I was in Queen Street Infants and Carol was in the same class. It really knocked us about to realise that at such a young age we could lose a friend and classmate.

Dragongirl, did your classmate indicate which part of Nottingham she now lives as our son also live there and we visit often.

Regards
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Carol's mother, Mrs Mason still lives in Richmond Road. She is now completely blind. Pauline also lives in same road which is a comfort for her mother.
Several children on way back to Queen Street, but Carol went down the steep hill to Meeks' for sweets and dashed across the road.
If ONLY she had gone to Mrs Hillier's shop instead.
Anthony
Patmerrifield

Re: Queen Street Junior

Hi,

The girl next to Lillian is myself Pat Merrifield. I have never seen this picture before and brought back some good memories. Would be great to see some more if you have any?
The Duke

Queen Street Junior

Hi Pat  javascript:emoticon('Very Happy')
Its great to get a reply from someone on the photo of 1957 I was beginning to think I was the only one left.
Do you still live in Abertillery or like me moved away?
If still in Aber do you have any contact with other people in the photo?
Regarding any similar photos I do have one of Bryngwyn Sec Mod for the next year I'll try to dig it out and see if your on it.
If you are I'll PM it to you

Regards
ANN BATH

Queen Street

I failed the 11+ so did three others and because we were in the post war baby boom all children whose birthday was between June 1958 and September1958 where kept an extra year in Queen street and I dont think they knew what to do with us I remember we made tea for the teachers in Mrs Shellards class
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

I was in Mrs Shellards class the year she retired. That was 1960. After that came Mrs Brown and Mr Lovesay before I went to the Grammar.
Mrs Shellard was a lovely lady - strict but kind. She was a good pianist and always allowed us, in turn, to choose a hymn when we had a class "assembly".
Are you, by any chance, a relation of Kay Bath who died of leukaemia in, I think, 1961? I recall her being with us in Mrs Brown's class, and then her death was announced.  All those years ago and I still think of her - a little, gentle soul with fair hair. The school was closed for the day of her funeral.
Do please tell me more about Mrs Shellard. Do you remember her long skirts? I am a bit puzzled about you being an extra year at Queen Street!  Did you go to Bryngwyn after that? You must be 2 years older than me.
So pleased you got in touch.  Please reply!!
Anthony
ANN BATH

Queen Street

Kay was my sister and died in June 1961. At that time I was in Bryngwyn and was transfered to the Grammar school. My Dad was Bert Bath who taught in Gelli Grug at that time and we lived in Pantypwdyn. I noticed Tony Evans in the photo. he lives in Monmouth and still works in Education, Another friend at that time was Mrs Price's son David. I have been trying to contact Janet Wride who was one of the girls kept down for the extra year. Would love to hear from her.
John

The 57 picture must have been taken after I left,because I believe that was my class as I recognise most of the faces,one I believe is David? Turner.I left to go in a childrens home ,just outside of Caerleon for nearly 4 years, back to Aber.went to Gelli Grug,then went down the Six,left to join army in 68 and I have visited a few times,but must say Aber. is not the same,but it isstill home.After all that ,my name is John Price and used to live in Castle Street.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Dear John.
                  Thanks for writing..
There are so many people who see this thread and who could send their memories of Queen Street - but don't!!
Can you please tell us more about the teachers you had? Do you remember Mrs Shellard and Mrs Brown?
I would so love to have more memories of them.
I remember Mrs Price very well, and Mrs Sparks, and Hilda Hughes.
By the way, Ann, thank you for what you said about your sister Kay.
Many memories.
Anthony
John

My  memory is not as good as it used to be,but I remember the day I left ,I had to go in the classroom in the left hand corner of the school(next to nurses room I think) to pay the teacher my dinner money (1s)  from the day before and she gave me my money back + another 1/6 (half crown in all) I think it was Mrs Brown,but am not sure,but I will never forget her kindness,even though it was over 55 years ago.
I also remember the little girl who got ran over,we were all called into assembly to be told,she used to sing ,I think it was with Robert Weaver,it was a sad day.Funny how you recall things like that.Will try to search the memory banks,for better recollections.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Dear John,
                   I think you must be about 5 years older than me, judging by what you say.  I left for Abertillery Grammar in 1962.
We had Mr Lovesey in last class and Mrs Brown the year before that. They were all good teachers and it was a happy school, as I'm sure it still is. Mr Vernon, the Head, was very dour and strict, I always felt, but then, as children, we obviously didn't really know him. The kindest of them all was (for me) Mr. Lovesey, but they were all pleasant.  I remember the singing lessons on BBC Radio on Monday mornings, with so many of the old, traditional British songs.I suppose it was the old Light Programme. We had the song books to accompany each series. I also enjoyed the dancing in the hall.
I remember Carol Mason, the girl who was run over and killed. If she hadn't gone down that steep hill which leads off Richmond Road to buy sweets at Mrs Meek's shop on Alexandra Road, it wouldn't have happened. If only she'd gone into Mrs Hillier's instead. But, if you recall, Mrs Meek had far more choice because it was a real sweet shop!
I was very friendly with Pauline, Carol's younger sister, who still lives in Richmond Road - as does old Mrs Mason, their mother, who is over 90 and, I'm afraid, quite blind now. I'll be seeing them when next in Aber.
We had Mrs Shellard in the year she retired (1960). She it was who started my great interest in history. I wish I knew more about her. Does anyone reading this have reminiscences of her?
By the way, Dragongirl, are you OK? You've been silent of late!!
Anthony
Robert

Queen Street Junior School

Hi John If you remember Terry Trickett, David Turner, Glynis Jones and myself were all born around August 46 so we had to spend another year at Queen Street. The class we were in before that was with John Gifford, Robert George and Martin Cook.  This may be the reason you were not in the picture as I can't remember if you were held back also.
You'll remember Martin as he lost an eye and it was replaced by a glass one. Sadly Robert George lost his life in an accident in Ebbw Vale steelworks at a very young age.
You were correct in recalling it was me and Carol Mason who sang together at school, where did you dig that up, from it had completely skipped my memory. I do however remember a group of us taking turns at morning break to get biscuits for the teachers in the shop at the corner of Princesss Street. Didn't it used to be a Post Office?
I've managed to put names to many of the faces in the photo of 57. If you could remember others it would be great.
Keep in touch
Robert
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Robert,
        I think I'm correct in remembering that the shop you mention was "Leyshons" ?
On the corner at the top of Princess Street, where the Infants entrance was.
Seems a bit unusual for the teachers to be getting the children to do errands for their biscuits!!
Was Mr. Cooke the Headmaster when you were there?
Anthony
Robert

Queen Street Junior School

Hi A E-W,
A number of us used to go for the biscuits for Mr. Bowen and Mr Francis and yes it was Mr Cooke who was the headmaster.
Robert
John

Robert & AEW
Leyshons was at the back gate to the top school and the one by the infants (near infants back gate) as you said robert was a post office,I remember Martin Cook ,he used to live between Somerset & Queens Street ,about the middle of the row I think.Yes I was one of those kept back  as I was born July 46,Just before the heavy snow of 47/48.When I went to Caerleon I went straight to secondary school.Recalling you & Carol singing together was easy,when my children /grandchildren ask about my school days,the things that stand out are :Queen Street,the day we went to assembly to be told about Carol and the two of you in assembly singing and also free dinners and the time I thought I was on free and sat down and ate someone elses dinner.I rember Mr Francis ,he was the one who paid my dinner that day.I am trying to search my memory for names ,If you give a starter for ten it might jog me .
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Robert and John,
                             I am really pleased you have these memories of Carol. I didn't know her, being 5 years younger than you, but Pauline her younger sister was, as I said, a close friend, and still lives in Richmond Road.
If you agree, I would like to tell Rene Mason, their mother, about the singing - I know she would be glad that people still remember Carol all these years on. Thank God she at least had Pauline.
Mr. Mason, their father, was a lovely man. He died tragically when walking down the doctor's steps, though years later, when my family had gone to live in Ebbw Vale.
I don't recall the male teachers you mention. By the time I was at Queen Street Mr. Lovesey and young Mr. Snellgrove were the only men, apart from Mr. Vernon, the Head, who came after Mr. Cooke.
I can remember as if it were yesterday, a lovely school coach outing to Bourton on the Water where that large model village is.
I remember taking my picnic sandwiches in a duffel bag that my father bought for me. I think they were a new fad then (about 1961). Anyway, I know I was very proud of it!!
I remember that I wasn't very good at "telling the time" when I was 9 and in Mrs Shellard's class. She sent me out to see what time it was by the large clock in the corridor, and I couldn't work it out!  Mr. Vernon came past and I thought he'd be cross, but in fact he took me to his office and gave me a lesson in telling the time.
Another thing I remember at Queen Street is being a monitor and being allowed to ring the big, old fashioned bell all week, for lunch time and in the afternoon. I really loved that, as did all my friends when it was their turn. Can either of you remember doing that?
The school looks exactly the same. I last saw it from outside about 2 years ago. There were men there renovating the playground, but nothing had changed.  Happy days!
Anthony
John

Anthony / Robert
Of course pass on that we remember Carol,it is good that at my age we still recall things.I remember a trip to Windsor,it cost 2/6,a lot of money then and a trip to Bristol Zoo.I keep trying to recall the names on the 57 picture as I know nearly all the faces,I think I got mixed up with the schools,as the juniors was the bottom school and infants was the top.I think the children ringing the bell was a bit of a tradition as the one who rang it was chosen by getting the most spellings right or times tables,but our teacher used to make sure everyone had a turn by giving easy ones to those that were a bit slow,also remember the old school clock.It was about 18 months ago I took my family down and they loved it,they wanted to put a place to a name .I hope to come down later in the year,but it will depend on work.
Robert

Queen Street Junior School

Hi John, This may act as reminder of some of the people.
Name to faces :- Ist row 2nd left Pat Price
                                  4th lft Ann Blackmore
                                   5th rt Glenis Jones
                                   4th rt  Brenda Watkins  
                       2nd Row 1st rt Robert Page
                                     2nd rt Terry Trickett
                                     3rd rt David Turner
                                     5th rt Susan Price
                                     3rd lt Robert Weaver
                       Back row 4th rt ????  England

Going back to your post about the school trips. I was the one who tried to retrieve an orange that had fallen into the lake , it was either Susan or Pat Prices, if you remember the bottom of the lake was slippery and allthough the water was shallow I slipped and was competely soaked . There were no spare trousers to be had so I was loaned one of the girls jumpers/cardy and had to place my legs thro' the arms like a pair of trousers. I had to wear that till we got home. Happy days.
Robert
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Robert,
I bet all the boys on the coach had a jolly good laugh all the way home!!
Happy days indeed!
Anthony
John

I remember that incident ,its funny how the orange floated.but not everybody could afford  it so it was precious.I know I couldnt.I used to get 3d on a Friday and call into Meeks? on the way to school and buy a couple of sticks of liquorice at 1/2d a stick,those were the days.I remember roller skating at the drill hall on saturday nights after I finished selling the fooball papers down at the Empress , had a good pitch there ,had all the picture houses.Also did an errand for the landlady of the pub (Globe) top of the hill from the cottonwood,used to get 6d and my train fare to sixbells,did that every Friday,today I wonder what was in those packages.I still cant put names to faces ,although I do recognise most of them ,perhaps I will recall someone later.
Robert

Queen Street

Now your bringing back memories. I remember taking papers to the fish and chip shop in Carmel Street near the Palace Cinema. He used to give us a packet of scratchings and a couple of pence. If I remember correctly wasn't that Veasey's.
Also regrading roller skating I used to go to the Drill Hall on Saturday afternoons, it was run by the TA and my cousin Billy Warren, from Brynithel, used to be there as he was in the TA. The record they played most was Paul Anka "Diana".
The worst thing about the skating was trying to find a left and right skate of your size with some tyre still left on. The competions on the floor were great  from speed skating to jumping small obsticals.
Then there was the Saturday afternoon dances at the Market hall lower section when we were older. That was run by Tommy Farr who also looked after the swimming pool in Aber park if my memory serves me right.
How about working Saturdays on the market. At our age lifting sacks of potatoes. To make some money July meant picking whimberries down the dingle , Christmas collecting holly , in between collecting scrap metal. rags and cardboard to sell to the ragman who at that time had a rag and bone yard at what is now the Fire Station and library.
I know I'm digressing a little from the original subject but we of the older ilk do like to remonisce

Come on lets have a few more especially regarding Queen Street
John

Saturday morning pictures 3d,my younger brother tripping and putting his hand through the classroom door on the right,ending up with a couple of stitches.Playing marbles in the school yard,football,cricket against the wall,funny cant remember any graffiti,perhaps we were good kids.Wasnt Mr Bowen a war hero ?something sparks on those lines.Going to fish shop next to the arcade for scrumps.I remember  the coronation and we were all given a purple pencil tin with a flat bar of chocolate and there was a party in vivian street.The more I write the more things are coming back,instead of concentrating on work tomorrow I will be thinking what else we did.
ANN BATH

Queen Street

The fish and chip shop in Carmel St was own by Mr and Ethel Godden, they were related to my cousin Lyn York
Phillip T. Small

Godden's fish bar did brilliant chips. Wasn't the fish fryer there a hunch back ??

Mr Vernon, the headmaster was not a very nice person !!! Ah for rose tinted glasses..

We only remember the good times eh ???
John

Thanks for that Ann,have you any more memories of the school and can you put more  names to faces on the 57 picture?
Robert

Queen Street Junior School

Hi John
Back to the thread (sorry for digressing admin)
1957 Photo
Middle row 1st left John Bevan
                  2nd left Roger Poor??

Any more, please add
(Admin----- is it possible to tag photos as on Facebook or Freinds reunited to make things easier?)

Robert
John

Robert,Sorry faces are familiar but after 55 years its gone the way of my hair.Going back to Anthonys thread ,wasnt Mrs Sparks the music teacher ,who played the piano with such gusto during assembly and taught us to sing in tune and is that Ron Francis in the photo,I remember a very tall thin male teacher ,who was quite youngish.Can anybody remember the Nit nurse and the health inspections about every 6 months,I tell my kids and they dont believe me.Clinic next to the arcade for free orange juice and cod liver oil (yuk) Glad I came to this site it has really removed the cobwebs and brought back some fond memories.Thanks everyone.PS yes the bloke in the fish shop  did have a hump back,but he made the bestest scrumps ever.
jeffthomas

Queen Street Junior School

Although I didn't go to Queen St. school, I think I recognise a couple of faces in the '57 photo. The boy on the back row (4th from right) may well be Stuart England, and the girl with the glasses in the front was Mary Powis. Can't help with any others!!
John

thanks jeff,thats 2 more than me
Robert

Queen Street Junior

Hi John
I think the teacher in the photo is Mr Bowen. Anyone with other info please add. Ron Francis was shorter and stockier.
John

That old cliche: I thought he was taller or was that Mr Roberts?
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Yes, Mrs Sparkes was the music teacher, but I think she had her own class too (?)  I remember her always wearing an overall.
Philip, I don't have rose tinted specs about Mr. Vernon since that seems to be aimed at me. I am aware that he was very strict. But I have no bad memories of him, only the kind one about his helping me to tell the time.
I remember leaving Queen Street for good at the end of the summer term in 1962, before going to the Grammar, and being very upset indeed - even though there were the summer holidays to look forward to. It was a very happy school as far as I was concerned. Any "nasty" teachers came later!!
There was more than orange juice on offer at the clinic next to the arcade!!  Injections which hurt more then! And the dentist.  I had a genuine fear of gas at the dentist and refused to have that black mask over my face when I was 10.  I actually pulled it off. My mother had to take me to Mr. Clancy instead so that I could have an injection. Even though that was painful it was better than being gassed!  My father was furious, for some reason. Anyhow, I got my way.
Being a Six Bells boy, I can only remember the fish and chip shop down there, on the same side as the presbyterian chapel. I suppose that might be rose tinted specs - thinking that chips tasted better then, but I expect they did!
Anthony
X P O P

Can only put names to a few of the children in pics 2 and 3 , however the lady teacher in red is Mrs Connie Lloyd Jones , the male Teacher being Ken Hewitt.
Between 1959 through to 1966 the Staff was
Queen Street Infants
Miss Solloway as head Teacher then Miss Blunt,
Miss Elvira Williams class1
Mrs Doris Price  Class 2
Miss Mary James  Class 3
Mrs LLoyd Class4

Queen Street Juniors

Mrs Hilda Hughes Class 1
Mrs Marie Paige Class 2
Mrs Connie Lloyd Jones Class 3
Mrs Bernice Brown Class 4
Mr Livesy (went on to Gramma School)
Mr Ken Hewitt  Final year class
The Headmaster was actually Mr W J  Vernal  not Vernon from Chepstow
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

I stand corrected about Mr. Vernon/Vernal, and I think you made a typing error with Mr. Lovesey!
You don't mention Mrs Sparkes, or Mrs Shellard who retired in 1960.
And there was young Mr. Snellgrove who definitely taught in my time there. We knew his mother in Richmond Road.
I knew Ken Hewitt when I was a bit older. His father was Stan and he was the Church Warden at St. John's, Six Bells for many years. Ken was one of the servers there.
I remember Mrs Lloyd at the top of the Infants who taught us all to sew (including the boys!)  Does anyone recall those small squares of tapestry that we used to work with different coloured wools?
I remember making a raffia work stool when in Mr. Lovesey's class. He took the top class from 1961- 62. We also started geometry with him. A truly kind, lovely man - and that is NOT rose tinted spectacles!!
Anthony
X P O P

Very Happy Mr Vernal the Headmaster was indeed very strict, many of us young boys had the cane on the hand from him even at Junior School age , it did us no real †harm accept for a painful hand for some time afterwards, †infact I think we were and are better for it and what a pity its not used in schools today.The staff at junior school were in the main strict , they were all very good teachers though, Mrs Hughes did †give a good dig in the shoulder with that ring, Mrs Brown could be very strict ,can always remember going up to her desk to have 20 mental arithmetic Qs marked any wrong answers would be the X then a prod in the belly with her pen.
Mr Livesy , it was pronounced as LOVEsy but I am 99.9% certain it is spelled LIVEsy, he lived Blenheim Road way Six Bells the reason I'm certain of the spelling is because I am an X Postie and was suprised at how it was spelled myself because he was always refered to as Mr LOVEsy.
I can also remember the footstools, they were ready assembled and we had to weave a criss cross two coloured cord to complete them, Bring back the cane in schools I say †lol
P.s Mr Snellgrove , memory jogg , yes he did teach at Queen Street for a while he was an  Art Teacher Mr Gary Snellgrove.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Dear XPOP,
                    Are we permitted to know what these initials stand for ?
     I think you'll find that we are not supposed to mention Hilda Hughes' ring!  All I will say is that her greatest life-long friend was my aunt Betty, dad's sister. They'd been at the Grammar together. Aunty Betty would not, I know, have approved of Hilda doing that, and would, in fact, have been disgusted.
As for Ma Brown and her pen, well, we learn something knew every day! Yes, she could be sarcastic, I recall.
Mr. Lovesey was, like his name, always lovely!
As for the cane, I thoroughly agree with you. It should certainly be restored, but not, surely, in junior schools.
Anthony
welshlizmiles

school clinic

I didn't go to Queen Street, I went to Arael Primary- we still had the same clinic with the gas mask. I can remember coming out screaming after treatment, the secretary from Arael saw me with my mother and bought me a cadbury's cream egg- presumably to shut me up! I also went to Mr Clancy after that incident!
Liz
Phillip T. Small

Anthony, my dear learned friend.. In no way was I 'popping' at your good self or indeed any other 'poster'..

As for my 'memory' of Mr Vernal/Vernon it was not a good one and remains with me to this day...

Mrs Hughes, however, a different kettle of fish. She lived in the same street as myself and was very good friends with my mother. Indeed her extra coaching got me through to the Grammar School.. I sat my 11 plus in Sully Sanatorium by the way !!

The chip shop (now long gone) in Six was run by the Tossel family and thereafter Mrs Davies, her daughter Margaret and her husband.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

But, Liz, it looks as if you went through with the "treatment" !!
I didn't - I just tore off the mask before anything could happen!
I am still uneasy at the thought of ever having to have a hospital general anasthetic, however advanced they now are!
Just so that Martyn can't complain that we're off the subject again, I can tell you that Mrs Brown at Queen Street agreed with my father that it was "very babyish" to be frightened of "a whiff of gas"!!  As the dentist's injection was painful in those days, I thought I was brave in preferring that!
Anthony x
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Dear Phillip,
I too thought a lot of Hilda Hughes, aunty Hilda which I called her when older (ie after Queen Street).
My cousins in Bracknell and I often speak about her. Hilda was very sorry when my aunt left Abertillery for Reading (then Bracknell when she married) but used to go and stay with them sometimes.
I know she was almost paralysed at the end and couldn't even ring my aunt, nor answer the phone.
I never knew anything about this infamous ring business.
Anthony
X P O P

Very Happy I prefer to remain as X P O P  tyvm,
Mrs Hilda Hughes and the dreaded ring , it did exist and I still have the marks to prove it (no I don't) but my memory does, I had it a few times, we must remember we were all small then and it honestly felt like you pushed your classmate sat next to you out of the seat Laughing beleive she would also refer to you as a "Dunce or Duffer"  as she prodded, again it did us no harm , can remember telling me mam when things like that happened , her answer would always be "if you got it right in the first place she wouldn't have done it", Mrs Hughes was actually related to my grandfather somewhere along the lineage.  It was the same on the occasion if Mr Vernal gave you the cane , parents response would be "well he didn't give it to you for nothing",  I can re call Phillip being in Sully Hospital around the time of 11 plus year, and am thinking maybe he was there because he did suffer quite poorly with bronchial problems, am pretty certain his folks gave us big bag of conkers that he had picked whilst in hospital.

Strange enough why is it no one has ever mentioned those freezing outdoor Lavvys , they would always freeze over in the cold winters . we would encourage the freezing by adding fresh snow into the system, but ol'Vernal (not being impolite) would be there with the salt, no heated corridor ,no hot running water in the cloakroom , a double sized open fire in the classrooms when I started school and a gas heater on the wall , then those  (often smelly) smokeless coke burning stoves replaced the open fires, teachers desks being placed nearest to the fire.
and the young and the youth of today have almost everything and think its all about them, where did it all go wrong , pity they didn't have a trip back to those times for a few months, esp in winter, they would have more appreciation and respect for one another .
maryann

memories

I must disagree with the coment !!!There are an awful lot of very good youngsters about today.I dont think being rediculed by the teacher or being out in the cold would make much difference
Robert

Queen Street Junior

Hi All
Who remembers, when you were milk monitor,in cold weather having to put the bottles near the open fire in the classroom in order for the milk to melt. I remember the frozen milk about an inch above the top with the silver top still on the top of the milk.
What about school dinners, mashed potato and baked beans,great , and that aweful  semolina pudding. I ate so much one day I was sick. Saint Davids Day, "Dafydd y Garreg Wen" in assembly and leeks for school dinners. At Christmas some of the lucky ones had a silver sixpence in their pud, I never got one orrrrrr,,,

Robert
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Dear Robert,
                    I remember the "milk in winter" but I remember getting WARM milk which, without sugar, didn't taste nice!  And skin on top.
Mrs Brown made us drink it, but Mr Lovesey, being kindness itself, did not. Ugh!
If there were 6d coins in the Christmass (double ss is Catholic!!!) pud, then everyone should have had one.  Little things like that are hurtful to children.
Also it was very bad to announce who was eligible for a free dinner.
The other thing that has always stayed with me is those Saving Stamps.  Do you all remember?  6d and 2/6d. The teachers asking publicly who was buying one that week.  Maybe some didn't ask publicly, but old Ma Brown sure did!!
I think the 6d one was Princess Ann and was the 2/6d one Prince Charles??
I was given the half crown every week to buy one, and at 10/11 was too innocent to realise how unkind that was to the children who could never have one.
Funny that that should happen under  Monmouthshire Education Authority, permanently run by Labour!! (I mean it being so public)
By the way, I saved up all these stamps (well, my father did, on my behalf) and when I went to University in 1969 I was presented with a lovely cheque - the result of all those years of saving.
All well and good for those who can!  NOT, surely, things to make public for those who can't at the age of 11!!!
Mary Ann, I agree that there are lots of good, nice children and young people - everywhere. But something like 20% are NOT 'nice' and speak to adults in a really rude, disgraceful way, knowing they are safe in the arms of the European Human Rights legislation.  Come and stay for a week with me in London (even posh Hampstead) if you want proof!!
They all "want too much" of course, but that is clearly the fault of their silly parents who can't say No!
As a priest I suppose I can say that the onlooker sees more of the game.
I am still waiting for more memories of Mrs Shellard.
Anthony
maryann

memories

HelloAnthony ---Seems like school memories are the making of us !!
I loved the school milk and my sister hated it.
As for 6d in the pudding -no matter how unkind not everyone can have everything and the earlier  we are taught that the better.You were what I call the 'privileged 'as your parents could afford to save for you,mine could just about manage to feed and clothe us but love was plentiful .
As for your 20% being rude etc ,I think this applies to all ages and not just youth ,in all places.I have met some nasty older people too. .I do believe the world has not really changed in this respect.
I dont make excuses for wrongdoers but I do not blame the parents.There are many 'good parents 'whose children for some reason go of the rails.
There is some good and bad in all of us.
As a nonchurch goer I have had little contact with priests but I did not expect one to be judgemental.
John

Shool Dinners,Milk Monitors,Bell Ringers,Those Toilets

I was one of the poor people who sometimes had free school dinners,one of the female teachers used to make you wait until the payers were sat down and had their dinner in front of them before you were allowed to sit down,then in a loud voice NOW Free Dinners SIT.On my earlier story about a teacher paying my dinner I now think it was Mrs Shelly ,lady with glasses ,well dressed and light curled hair.She was also the one who shared out the dutis fairly for bell ringing and milk monitors,she taught in the left hand classroom.As for those toilets during the winter you went in and froze and then ripped yourself to pieces on the toilet paper,no soft paper in those days.
John

Sorry should read Mrs Shellard
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Dear John,
I am glad to know that it was Mrs Shellard who did that act of kindness.  I should so love to know more about her "younger days"
You have corroborated what I said about this ANNOUNCING the poor - and that in a Labour area.
Mary Ann, we all have to make some judgements every day, about every thing!
Yes, I was lucky, but at 11 I don't know that. My father was an ordinary Abertillery man who had trained at EV Steelworks to be an accountant - over many years. His best friend was Mr Alban Sweet, next door, who was a miner.
You should hear some of the Confessions that I do - mostly little things like "I said something to Mrs so-and-so, and I wish I hadn't."
Judging is NOT the same as discernment, surely?
There are bad parents and they do affect their children's behaviour.
And there are good parents with bad children.
For me Queen Street was a great start in life - and all positive; I appreciate that for others it was different.
A
Robert

Queen Street Junior

Your right John that paper was hard Izal if I remember correctly. I remember having to go to school in wellies even on dry days, money was short and  there still wasn't much about even 10 years after WW2. You mentioned the orange juice etc. and the dentist near the arcade. Do you remember having to queue up for the polio jabs down that narrow corridor next to the arcade. At that time they closed the parks swimming pool.
I remember one day at dinner break I think it was me , you and Terry went over the wall and down the bank to the top of Vivian Pit, we arrived back in school late and our hands were covered in coal dust, Mrs hughes refered to us as Blackbirds.
John

I was one of the poor children of Abertillery ,but like Anthony ,Queen street school gave me a great start in life and yes looking back some of the teachers were a bit harsh,but the good ones made up for it.We look back and thank them for they gave us a grounding and they did it for our own good,so come on boys and girls lets get back to the subject in hand of memories of Queen Street School good or bad but memories.
Margaret in australia

Robert I see you mention a Mrs Hughes as a teacher at Queen St. school.  Could that have been Miss Hughes ?  Asking because my sister who was Miss Hughes  before she married and moved away was a teacher there for a while.. My sister died some years ago, she was  about 12 years older than me, so I cannot remember a lot about  her teaching. I do remember how she was always preparing lessons at home.  Wish I could remember more.
Cheers   Margaret Price ( nee Hughes)
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Dear Margaret,
                    No Mrs Hilda Hughes was previously Miss Williams. I know this because she was a family friend - in fact the best (life long) friend of my Aunt Betty, who was also Miss Williams before she married!
Were you a Queen Street pupil yourself?
All the best,
Anthony
Margaret in australia

No Anthony, I was a British School pupil.  We lived at Cyril Place,on the Old Blaina Road,right behind the swimming pool.......happy memories.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Dear Margaret,
                  My father also went to the British School but, I am sure, before your time. He was born in 1907, and I was born in 1951.
I am fairly sure it was a boys' school in the 1920s, but no doubt somebody will correct me if that's not true. He left there to go to Newport Commercial College.
Mary Ann, this is something you might know!
In fact, I really would like to know more about the history of the British School.  Didn't it have nonconformist leanings, as opposed to Saint Michael's Church School?
We should start a thread about this.
Anthony
Margaret in australia

when I was at the British School it had,  infants  ( mixed )   then seperate Girls  and Boys, up to about 12 years.  I was born 1932 so was at The British  from about 1937 to 1944.
Miss Gatfield was headmistress of the Girls school when I was there.
Margaret
dragongirl

QUEENST JUNIOR SCHOOL

hI
 Lovely to see Queen Street Junior School being named school of the week in the South Wales Argus,even with a shared headmistress she
seems to be doing everything right.
Congratulations to pupils and staff !!
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street

Does the Headmistress then have charge of two schools?
Which is the other one.
Seems they get a thoroughly good education (as was always so) at Queen Street, and then have to struggle when they are transferred to their secondary school! That's if Welsh school statistics are to be believed.
Anthony
dragongirl

Queen Street Primary

Hi Anthony
    Mrs   Judith Cleaves is  also Head  at Blaentillery ,she spends  two days there  and   3days at Queen Street
 I`ll post you the article,about lunch clubs etc very interesting!!!
Robert

Queen Street Junior School

Hi
Can anyone remember the trip made to London around 1955/56. I think we went by train and visited Windsor Castle and also one of the museums in London. Itís the museum I canít place, however I do recall there being an Egyptian mummy there.
We did go around London on a coach passing through Soho, which to children around 10 to 11 years was a bit of an adventure.
Any memories please post.
Robert
Anthony Earl-Williams

Queen Street Juniors

Hello all,
                Since nobody has posted on this thread since March this year, I thought that some of you may like to know that there are some very nice memories of Mr. Albert Lovesey, a well loved teacher at Queen Street. His grandson Rhys has written in, but it is on the Grammar School thread. I have also posted some remarks which also really ought to be on this, the Queen Street thread!!
Any memories please of Mrs Shellard?
Anthony

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