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stoob

Religion

Abertillery Orpheus Choir in Rome 1982.
Trevor Wilde shakes hands with his holiness.
Also pictured Martin Budd, father Patrick Coleman, Glyn Andrews and Ron Protheroe.


Anthony Earl-Williams

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Stoob, this is a lovely photo.
I take it that it's Fr. Coleman in his previous incarnation as a Catholic priest?
I must find something of Father Oscroft-Jones to put up. It will be his 50th Anniversary of death in May (it was Whit Monday 1964). As I think you know, he is still much remembered and loved in Six Bells - specially down in Arael Street and Griffin Street. I expect there will be a memorial Mass for him at St. John's. Fr. Julian Meek will let me know.
stoob

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Christchurch, Aberbeeg, pictured in it's final days of construction.
Built using Aberbeeg stone and imported Austrian oak.
Believe the Reverend Daniel Felix may have been the first incumbent in 1895.


stoob

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Christchurch.


stoob

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Christchurch.


stoob

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Christchurch.


stoob

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Christchurch.


Anthony Earl-Williams

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These are really nice, Stoob.
I wonder whether you can find even one of St. Johns, Six Bells - the old corrugated iron church which was demolished in 1968?
Anthony
stoob

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St. Johns in 1905.
It was only built as a temporary measure but stood until declared unsafe in 1966. The new building was completed and consecrated in 1969.


Anthony Earl-Williams

Religion

It brings back so many memories. I was an altar boy in the time of Father Oscroft-Jones (1938 - 1964).  This Whitsun will be his 50th Anniversary of death.
St. Johns was in the parish of St. Michaels till 1921 when it became a Conventional District till 1925. Then it became a Parish in its own right with Father W.M. Davies as first Vicar. It was during Father Davies' time that St. Johns developed an advanced Anglo-Catholic Liturgy. It was the first church in the North Western valleys of Monmouthshire to offer High Mass since the Reformation.
I have some more photos, but unfortunately don't know how to upload them.
Anthony
stoob

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Believe there's modern ones on the tillery churches site.
welshlizmiles

Christchurch in the snow

The picture of the church with snow everywhere - we lived in the 3rd house on the left. Great photo.
stoob

Religion

Believe the Friends of Christchurch are still fighting that 2012 decision of the Bishop of Monmouth to close it.


stoob

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Christchurch.


Anthony Earl-Williams

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But how many of The Friends of Christchurch, let alone the people of Aberbeeg, actually went regularly to the church for services when it was open? A lot of money is needed to maintain the fabric of any church building!
It is no use moaning about the closure now, if you didn't support the church when you had the chance!!
As the Government is now giving money (yesterday's Budget) for the upkeep of historic cathedrals and churches, perhaps the Friends of Christchurch should apply for a grant. But they would have to do this in cooperation with the Diocesan authorities.
The photos are really nice, Stoob. It looks almost rural, Liz, where you lived.
Anthony
Anthony Earl-Williams

Religion

But how many of The Friends of Christchurch, let alone the people of Aberbeeg, actually went regularly to the church for services when it was open? A lot of money is needed to maintain the fabric of any church building!
It is no use moaning about the closure now, if you didn't support the church when you had the chance!!
As the Government is now giving money (yesterday's Budget) for the upkeep of historic cathedrals and churches, perhaps the Friends of Christchurch should apply for a grant. But they would have to do this in cooperation with the Diocesan authorities.
The photos are really nice, Stoob. It looks almost rural, Liz, where you lived.
Anthony
stoob

Religion

Somerset Street Methodist Chapel.
Opened in 1876, but despite extensions they were unable to cope with demand and a sister church was opened in Newall Street in 1906.
Despite 100 years of support the chapel finally succumbed to the modern age and closed in 1978.
However, one remnant still remains in the shape of the pipe organ which found it's way to the USA state of Texas. The organ had a makeover and it's last known residing place was the St. Mary's Episcol Church, Cypress, Houston, Texas.


Anthony Earl-Williams

Religion

Thank you, Stoob. I have nice memories of Somerset Street Methodists (even though I was n't one!) and I know that Dragon girl will be delighted to see this since she used to go there. I remember going to one or two Anniversaries there - the singing was very good.
It is tragic that it had to close, but I am pleased to learn about the organ. I guess the congregation went down to almost nothing at the end - like Christchurch, Aberbeeg.
My half brother Derek was a Methodist (because Dad was) and also went to Somerset Street. He was very friendly with Garth Rogers (another Richmond Road boy). Garth's parents (Kate & Ivor) were staunch Methodist and Garth became a Methodist Minister.
Still sorting out some photos of St. John's and Father Oscroft-Jones to send to you.
Do you by any chance have a photo of the interior of the "Primms"?
A
stoob

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Primms, Six Bells ?
Anthony Earl-Williams

Religion

No, Stoob!
Somerset Street was called the Primms because the chapel was what was known as Primitive Methodist. They thought they were more loyal to the founding principles of Methodism than the Wesleyan Methodists up on Tillery Street. My grandmother (dad's mother) who lived in Richmond Road, used to walk past the Primms all the way up to what she considered the "real" Methodists on Tillery Street!
Have emailed Dragon girl to tell her to have a look at the photo.
A
stoob

Religion

Regards the inside, don't think so,
First Methodist Chapel, Castle Street, 1849.
dragongirl

Somerset Street methodist Church

hi stoob
    You have been busy- I  remember it well from Sunday school classes from 5`sh up  Youth Club and choir practice from 12yrs on
My mum was a Baptist but I was sent to Somerset street maybe because a lot of local children and families went there. The mainstay at that time were the Russell  family they seemed to organise every thing very efficiently  too I recall.
  I married my first husband there in 1959, moved away but  a few years later moved back to Oak St. then my daughters went to  Blaenau Gwent Church . Very happy memories and made many friends -- these days it seems I only get to Church/Chapel for the life cycle of Christenings, marriages and deaths,
Hope family all well-- back in touch with Gordon -must try to get down to Wales in May when we go to Ireland via Pembroke but
usually stay on route at a Premier Inn or somewhere  similar!!
Dragongirl
stoob

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There's nowhere similar in Abertillery, not even a B & B in Abertillery.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Religion

Which is so very sad because Abertillery's environs are really beautiful and it should be attracting tourists.
There was a delightful B&B in Cwmtillery but it seems that has now been commandeered by the social services....
Doesn't the Six Bells Hotel do rooms?
Back to Religion!!  Dragongirl, do you remember the wooden birthday cake which always came out at Sunday School at Somerset Street when it was somebody's birthday? It did have candles. I suppose they couldn't rustle up a real one with so many children in attendance!
What was that verse sung at the end?  Something like:
"Our Sunday School is over and we are going home.
Goodbye...goodbye...we will be kind and true.
And the Sunday School teachers replied by singing:
Goodbye...goodbye.. you must be kind and true!!
I know I haven't invented that, and I think they were the words!! I can even hear the tune in my head!
What a far cry from today's brattish world!!!
A
stoob

Religion

Brynithel Cemetery 1908.


Anthony Earl-Williams

Religion

Stoob,
Was that when it was opened? Did the Bishop of Monmouth consecrate it?  Burial there (like at St. Paul's, Cwmtillery) must be slightly difficult on a steep slope. But it is a pleasant place when the sun is shining. Ted and Ida Mounter are buried there. Perhaps some others of our old teachers too?
Is the Cemetery Chapel still there? Last time I went, about 4 years ago, I only remember seeing an 'office' where the cemetery keeper was.
A
stoob

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Pictured 1908, they held services there until subsidence forced them to stop in the 1940's. It was finally demolished in the 1980's.
stoob

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Tillery Street Methodist Church pictured May 1907. This church replaced the old Weslyan Chapel of 1854.
The church was closed and destroyed by fire in the 1980's.


Anthony Earl-Williams

Religion

It was a tragedy that such a nice piece of architecture should have been destroyed. And really the same time as Somerset Street closing. As if Abertillery could afford to lose two heritage pieces. The Methodists must have been in a quandry about then. The rift between the Primms and the Wesleyans has been healed which is good. I don't know how many attend the new chapel in Powell Street.
My Monmouthshire grandmother was a faithful supporter at Tillery Street for over 60 years - till she moved to Bracknell to live with her daughter in 1951 when she was 74. She always regretted leaving Abertillery and selling up at Richmond Road, which basically she needn't have done. When she got to Bracknell, she found there was no Methodist chapel!! Her daughter, Betty, my aunt, was by then C of E, but granny refused to go there as she was a staunch nonconformist! She opted for the Congregationalists where she received, of course, a very warm welcome!
I wish a few more would add to this thread.
You are certainly bringing back many memories for us, Stoob.
A
stoob

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Believe that was where General Booth spoke on one visit.
Great dressed stone, gone forever.
Anthony Earl-Williams

Religion

One wonders if that fire were deliberate................
Let's hope not.
I wonder the old Saint John's, Six Bells didn't go up in flames because there were parafin stoves up the aisle during the winter to heat it, and a lot of it was wood. Plus all the many candles in an Anglo-Catholic church!!! Thank God it never did.
A
stoob

Religion

Glandwr Baptist Chapel picture in 1908.
The Phillips family were the main benefactors and the chapel opened in 1838 with the Reverend John Davies of Llandysul the first pastor.

Gladys Aylward spoke here, - article South Wales Gazette dated 17 April 1959.


Anthony Earl-Williams

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is it still there? Can't quite picture it.
stoob

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Allegedly another arson attack, burnt down in 2007.
If you use youtube the 1971 Whitsun Walks are on there, just under 4 minutes in duration.
stoob

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Peggy Newell Lewis at 100 years of age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_HJlfSV_6E
Anthony Earl-Williams

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I enjoyed hearing Mrs Lewis very much, so thank you for the link. Did she die soon after that?
A
stoob

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She was 103 when she died believe it was 2010.
Believe she was the only woman up at Brynithel Cemetery after the Six Bells Colliery Explosion.
Her  husband Lewis was headmaster at Tyr Graig, died 1977.
She went to college with Basil Rathbone's wife, cannot recall her name.
There's videos of her funeral service on youtube, could upload them but I'll pass on those.
stoob

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Bethany Baptist Church in Six Bells opened April 1906.


stoob

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Bethany.


stoob

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Bethany.


stoob

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Situated on the West Bank in Cwmtillery is the original Primitive Methodist Chapel pictured here in 1912.
In 1905 the two buildings were found to be moving away from one another due to mining subsidence. The chapel was closed and abandoned in 1910, hence the windows and roof damage.
Members managed to raise sufficient funds to open a new building in 1913 but it closed it's doors for a final time in July 1971.


Mary Ann

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I have seen this picture before and still can't get my head around it. I know the chapel was repositioned when it was rebuilt but it still confuses me.  I lived in West Bank and would like as many pounds as the number of times I walked  under that bridge on the way to  and from Blaentillery School .





[quote="stoob:22433"]Situated on the West Bank in Cwmtillery is the original Primitive Methodist Chapel pictured here in 1912.
In 1905 the two buildings were found to be moving away from one another due to mining subsidence. The chapel was closed and abandoned in 1910, hence the windows and roof damage.
Members managed to raise sufficient funds to open a new building in 1913 but it closed it's doors for a final time in July 1971.

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stoob

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Over 100 years ago Mary, the ledgers, membership books etc are all over the archive centre. They rented the new building off of the colliery owners, ten shillings a week.
J.A.N

Well this is my first message on this forum and having been away from Abertillery for over thirty years it will be interesting to see what  happens and if there is anyone using this that I might know
I thought the photos of Aberbeeg church were amazing and I must say , they make me want to pay a visit home again in the near future.
I was so suprised to see the photograph of the  Abertillery Oerpheus choir in Rome the trip was in 1982- I know because I was lucky enough to have sung with the choir at the time.
Martin Budd was also my music teacher so its a very special photo
great to see it and it inspired me to join this forum
Smile
stoob

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St. Michael's, Church Street, erected 1854.


stoob

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stoob

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St. Michael's.

Western Mail 20 June 1899.


stoob

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Aberbeeg Methodist.


stoob

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St. Mary's Catholic Chapel, Abertillery erected 1877.




stoob

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St Mark's Llanhilleth bottom left pictured around 1920,
Wesleyan Methodist Chapel further up the hill.


stoob

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English Baptist Church, Llanhilleth opened in 1896.


Dave

Trinity Presbyterian Church
 
one pic   May 2007   other Jan 2015,    managed to to visit inside on one visit, hope they keep some of the internal fittings, see one fitting gone from the roof.  

stoob

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Christchurch





stoob

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Blaenau Gwent Baptist Churchyard






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