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Rocke

The (Merciful?) End is Nigh

So, Cllr McCarthy WILL be remembered as the Leader who lost OUR Borough.

The only reason I'm on here now is that predicting the Lottery is nowhere near as easy as predicting what was going to happen by 2017.

Watch out now for the rats to scrap among themselves when Ward representation is cut.

Cllrs Bartlett, Sharrem and Tidey - which one will not find favour with The Party?

Cllrs Chaplin and Jones - will The Party pick both of them or cow down and allow Cllr Daniels a free run at one of the positions, like last time?

Cllrs Bartlett, McCarthy and McIlwee - which of those will be despatched to the political wasteland?

Does Eddie Legge fancy Cllr Winnett's chances of finding renewed favour?
Or Cllr Sutton?

Anyway, as the title says, will we really be any worse off governed from afar?

(Bet this becomes a 10-pager †Wink )
Rocke

Dear dear, what's happened to the 'Eddies' ?

Got to have a meeting or something???????????????   Laughing  Laughing
martyn142

You can't shut him up normally from drivelling on about you. Now you've posted there's no sign.  Laughing
Rocke

I'm starting to think it's also the merciful end of 'dinosaur drivel' as well Martyn.

What's the Speakeasy like ?
(I don't do bacefook).
Eddie legge

Bark but no bite

Rocke donít cry foul on Eddie for not replying to one of your postings, Why may I ask havenít you replied to my posting Jan 4th about what ex council leader Hillman said when you asked for him to resign  
Hedley McCarthy was right when he said Eddie you wonít get a replay heís all bluster and no action in the pub heís all chops but no substance    
Our toothless Rockweiler has been barking his head off over the Williams report
Had he still been a councillor today he would not have been so pleased  
Will it be a good thing for Blaenau Gwent to merge with Caerphilly and Torfaen who knows?
martyn142

Abertillery is currently governed from Ebbw Vale. Not much of a distance but clearly far enough to be falling further and further behind in the development stakes. And this is despite the current Leader being based in our area.

Whilst I don't expect the centre of gravity to swing towards us if we are governed from further afield, I don't expect it to get any worse.

You are right though Rockey, I'm sure the wheeling and dealing has already begun in preparation for the reduction in the number of councillors. In fact, I'm sure that will be given a far higher priority than sorting out the mess they plunged us into.
martyn142

By the way, the Speakeasy is a pretty good vehicle for debate. It's mostly anti the current regime as you'd expect if it was representative of the populace generally. But there are a few who are willing to stand up for them, and do so in a coherent, reasoned manner. Eddie isn't among them because he failed the last two tests.
martyn142

Re: Bark but no bite

Eddie legge wrote:
Rocke donít cry foul on Eddie for not replying to one of your postings, Why may I ask havenít you replied to my posting Jan 4th about what ex council leader Hillman said when you asked for him to resign †
Hedley McCarthy was right when he said Eddie you wonít get a replay heís all bluster and no action in the pub heís all chops but no substance     Our toothless Rockweiler has been barking his head off over the Williams report
Had he still been a councillor today he would not have been so pleased †
Will it be a good thing for Blaenau Gwent to merge with Caerphilly and Torfaen who knows?

By the way Eddie, that's the first time so far as I can remember that you've admitted you and Hedley are in contact.
Rocke

Re: Bark but no bite

Eddie legge wrote:
Rocke donít cry foul on Eddie for not replying to one of your postings, Why may I ask havenít you replied to my posting Jan 4th about what ex council leader Hillman said when you asked for him to resign †
Hedley McCarthy was right when he said Eddie you wonít get a replay heís all bluster and no action in the pub heís all chops but no substance † †
Our toothless Rockweiler has been barking his head off over the Williams report
Had he still been a councillor today he would not have been so pleased †
Will it be a good thing for Blaenau Gwent to merge with Caerphilly and Torfaen who knows?


Not crying 'foul' at all mate.
Merely pointing out that the Eddie Legge who's on the Electoral Register has absolutely no experience of the workings of Local and Central Government and hence is totally devoid of any ability to properly appreciate what's going on.
He would therefore require the assistance of some who have (and who do), hence the wait, until someone can get the script to him.

The problem is that the likely suspects are themselves devoid of sufficient intellect to come up with a solution to the massive public opprobrium that's about to be encouraged to be unleashed on the hapless bunch of puppets and sheep who allowed this to happen.      

Your post perfectly exemplifies that.

BG isn't merging with Caerphilly in reality. It's being taken over.

Now then.........

Admin - our friend here has quoted a third party as having made a none-too-complimentary reference to me.
I suggest that Hedley McCarthy had better either back the poster up or repudiate it re. that claim of "Hedley McCarthy was right when he said Eddie you wonít get a replay heís all bluster and no action in the pub heís all chops but no substance    ."

Because if Hedley McCarthy doesn't respond then I suggest that our friend has broken the rules by stating something unsubstantiated as a fact.

Eddie Legge will have placed both myself and Hedley McCarthy in an awkward situation because clearly I would have to approach him myself, advise him of Eddie Legge's comment and of course ask him to comment upon it.
 

Now, let's have at what abstract work of fiction you state you posted on Jan 4th. (That is 2014 is it?).
Eddie legge

Come off it Martyn

Martyn Headley and I have never met contact only on Forum and as for Speakeasy †if you disagree with either one of the four Admins you are not wanted, Less democracy than in North Korea where the not wanted are eaten alive by dogs, When I tried to defend my self over being accused of upseting an Admins wife, the apology from Ian and my comments were deleated and then I was banned
Tell me Martyn why no comments on Facebook and why isnt Speakeasy welcome on all local Forums
I believe yourself Martyn Ian Jones and Kdwent were recruited from Abertillery Forum to Speakeasy in order to discredit our local labour led council Why hasnt Rocke joined you, When Independants ruled over Blaenau Gwent he was the one with the gift of the gab and when things went wrong as did on so many occasions it was Rocke's job to cover up for his leader and incompetent colleagues
Rocke

Re: Come off it Martyn

Eddie legge wrote:
Headley and I have never met contact only on Forum and as for Speakeasy †if you disagree with either one of the four Admins you are not wanted, Less democracy than in North Korea where the not wanted are eaten alive by dogs, When I tried to defend my self over being accused of upseting an Admins wife, the apology from Ian and my comments were deleated and then I was banned
Tell me Martyn why no comments on Facebook and why isnt Speakeasy welcome on all local Forums
I believe yourself Martyn Ian Jones and Kdwent were recruited from Abertillery Forum to Speakeasy in order to discredit our local labour led council Why hasnt Rocke joined you, When Independants ruled over Blaenau Gwent he was the one with the gift of the gab and when things went wrong as did on so many occasions it was Rocke's job to cover up for his leader and incompetent colleagues


Admin - can you please consider some form of action re. this post/thread?

If by "Headley" EL is saying he/she/they whoever have never met Hedley McCarthy, and has only ever had contact via the Net, how on Earth can EL attribute comments to Mr McCarthy, especially given the fact that anybody can portend to be anybody it seems ??????????

That post was ill-advised and could have led to a confrontation.

This poster, although generally accepted as not to be taken seriously (in fact with a greater amount of salt than a Siberian Mine produces in a year) is nevertheless putting this forum's reputation at stake.

That post was in my opinion a libellous comment about Hedley McCarthy. Although he (HM) would be unlikely to launch an action against the forum, in view of the fact that one of the sheep said it, it does not prevent someone else from suffering the same type of
libellous comment in the future.
Eddie legge

For the Att of Admin

Admin why has it  taken Rocke so long to complain about what Headley McCarthy said
Would you please look into one of Rockes latest posting that said
Admins can only sort things out on here, There's no control over the media or indeed the outside world The real Eddie approach needs to  either stop or be stopped in my opinion
I am the one and only Eddie Legge and take what Rocke said as a threat to myself and family
Rocke

Re: Come off it Martyn

Eddie legge wrote:
Martyn Headley and I have never met contact only on Forum and as for Speakeasy †if you disagree with either one of the four Admins you are not wanted, Less democracy than in North Korea where the not wanted are eaten alive by dogs, When I tried to defend my self over being accused of upseting an Admins wife, the apology from Ian and my comments were deleated and then I was banned
Tell me Martyn why no comments on Facebook and why isnt Speakeasy welcome on all local Forums
I believe yourself Martyn Ian Jones and Kdwent were recruited from Abertillery Forum to Speakeasy in order to discredit our local labour led council Why hasnt Rocke joined you, When Independants ruled over Blaenau Gwent he was the one with the gift of the gab and when things went wrong as did on so many occasions it was Rocke's job to cover up for his leader and incompetent colleagues


It's getting more like some sort of spy thriller every day here.
People being recruited to be arch-propogandists and launch an Internet war to discredit the council.
That's the sort of thing Aberystwyth Al gets up to 'Eddie'.

Why haven't you asked me?

Your command of English still isn't very good either.
It's not "(I) was the one with the gift of the gab...."

I still am.

And just to bring some balance back to things (in case there's new members and readers here) my 'job' as you call it wasn't to 'cover up' (that's a comment going near the knuckle as well, since in my opinion there's an intimation that inappropriate actions had been undertaken and I was keeping the lid on things).

The group that I worked with and hence as part of (note - NOT 'belonged to') did not, in my opinion, have the nous nor wherewithal to realise the potential PR damage that could be caused by the fallacious and/or highly egged up statements being made by and on behalf of the Labour Group and of course local Party.
I believed that it was my duty as an elected representative of the people, not puppet of any party nor group, to put the record straight.

It's for that same reason that THE letter was sent, suggesting that the Leaders of BOTH main factions should resign.
One did, one didn't - and look where we are now.

Fwiw I think that Mr Hillman lost an awful lot of face, but at least he never lost the entire Borough.

PS you lot are very fortunate that I'm not a councillor.
As someone said last week when we were talking about - of all things - my view that 2017 would be the end of BG and quite a few councillors - 'if you were on there now it would be a nightmare for Hedley wouldn't it ?'

I smiled, and replied 'and a lesson to others on how to be effective in opposition'.   Wink
martyn142

Re: Come off it Martyn

Eddie legge wrote:
Martyn Headley and I have never met contact only on Forum and as for Speakeasy †if you disagree with either one of the four Admins you are not wanted, Less democracy than in North Korea where the not wanted are eaten alive by dogs, When I tried to defend my self over being accused of upseting an Admins wife, the apology from Ian and my comments were deleated and then I was banned

Lots of people have disagreed with the admin members on Speakeasy and continue to post on there. That's because they are not self-obsessed and don't reduce every thread to a discussion about themselves. You of course did. To remind you, by the way, I am not a member of admin on there, or here for that matter.
Eddie legge wrote:
Tell me Martyn why no comments on Facebook and why isnt Speakeasy welcome on all local Forums †

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Is it a puzzle?

Eddie legge wrote:
I believe yourself Martyn Ian Jones and Kdwent were recruited from Abertillery Forum to Speakeasy in order to discredit our local labour led council

kdwent wasn't recruited. He set up the Speakeasy. I can't speak for Ian Jones but I wasn't recruited I was more than happy to join. I don't need to discredit the local Labour led council as they are doing that very well for themselves. To be fair you help out too when you can.
Eddie legge wrote:
Why hasnt Rocke joined you

Even when he's posting in the same thread you ask me what Rockey would be better able to answer. I'm probably just a little less obsessed with Rockey than you are so I'll leave you to ask him yourself.
Rocke

Re: For the Att of Admin

Eddie legge wrote:
Admin why has it †taken Rocke so long to complain about what Headley McCarthy said
Would you please look into one of Rockes latest posting that said
Admins can only sort things out on here, There's no control over the media or indeed the outside world The real Eddie approach needs to †either stop or be stopped in my opinion
I am the one and only Eddie Legge and take what Rocke said as a threat to myself and family


"I am the one and only......." mmmm...... sums up someone who makes a song and dance about almost everything.

Fine - I take it you'll be battening down the hatches then, old boy ?
Rocke

PS you've stated that you and HM have never met, yet you have repeated your claim that HM said what you claimed.

ADMIN - is there to be some sort of moderation here, or am I to be allowed laisse faire in responding to this????????????????????????
admin

Admin is monitoring this topic.   At this point in time I see no reason to lock this topic or to remove any posts.  Please try and keep any further posts within the forum rules.   Admin.
Rocke

admin wrote:
Admin is monitoring this topic. † At this point in time I see no reason to lock this topic or to remove any posts. †Please try and keep any further posts within the forum rules. † Admin.


Thanks.

The reason I made the public request was that I think it important that people see what is going on and get the background, not simply see a ruling, post etc. and wonder what it's all about (and of course it makes everyone aware of possible issues regarding the manner in which anyone posts).
It also enables Admin's 'admin' and moderation to be totally transparent and not open to insinuation etc. such as happened in the past, particularly from 'Eddie Legge'. †

(Sorry, I know you can do that yourself but I'm forming the impression that this lot are intent on destroying all forms of criticism and will seek to damage anything that they see as a vehicle for heaping opprobrium on the total shambles that our governance is in).

Anyway, in my opinion we now have further evidence that 'Eddie Legge' is more than one person.

First they say that Hedley McCarthy made a scathing remark about me to them.

Then they (clearly someone else) says that they've never met him.

Only for someone else - perhaps 'Eddie Legge 1' - to repeat the claim.

Thomas Edward Legge, ye who are of the Electoral Register - are you schizophrenic by any chance ? †Sad

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