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Eddie legge

Tories out

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12/07/2012
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 eddie legge
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It’s no wonder that there are murmurings on the Tory backbenches about the proficiency of David Cameron regarding his ability to run this country
He keeps on about his ‘Big Society’ where everyone is supposed to willingly support and help each other out but at the same time introduces steps which can only destroy our society such as:

• Convincing those in work that everyone claiming welfare benefits are cheats and scroungers so that with their support his Tory-led government can make massive cuts to the welfare state. Whilst doing so he is totally ignoring the fact that the extreme austerity measures being introduced by the coalition are forcing 100’s of thousands of people out of work and thus requiring welfare benefits to support their families and to keep their homes!

• With Lib Dem support he is introducing £9k annual tuition fees for university places which this year has already made 50,000 young people decide not to seek further education. If this trend continues our society will not be able to match the superior intellect of major industrial countries and will eventually mean that our companies will fall by the wayside and our country become poorer and poorer!

• Setting in motion a system whereby pay across our country must be regionalised and thus match the lowest pay in the poorest regions therefore once again reducing tax payments and forcing hundreds of thousands of conscientious working people under the poverty line which of course will also mean that they will not be able to claim benefits to take them above this brutal living standard.

• Proposing that today’s pensioners in a ‘comfortable’ monetary position should no longer get free bus passes; free prescriptions and winter fuel allowances or special taxes whilst totally ignoring the fact that today’s pensioners have spent all their working lives paying more that 8% of their earnings into the National Insurance Scheme which was introduced to provide liveable conditions on retirement. If he gets agreement on his proposals this is yet another step towards destroying our caring ‘Big Society’ and reducing it to the ‘I’m alright Jack’ scenario which he obviously prefers! He also clearly forgets that pensioners are the ones most likely to vote and his proposals will be upsetting 12 million of them who presumably will think twice before giving him their future support.

• Forcing public sector workers to work longer; pay more towards but get less in their pensions whilst always saying that he is trying to ensure that the taxpayer is not overly taxed on their behalf – clearly he has no idea that public sector workers pay the same amount of tax from their wages as any other working class person. At the same time he doesn’t seem at all concerned that the richest in the land find and use ways of avoiding their taxes which results in some cases that they pay less tax than cleaners and the like in their own companies.

I could go on and on but think that my comments are sufficient to show your readers just how idiotic; callous and incompetent Cameron and his crew are in the hope that they will watch more closely the antics of this Tory-led coalition in the remaining three years of their power.
SonOfACynic

I'll be honest Eddie I couldn't be bothered to read past the second paragraph as I feel my intelligence had been insulted enough by then..........

Who created the current problems with the welfare state, whereby many (NOT ALL) are perfectly able to work but are persuaded not to by the simple fact that they will be out of pocket?

My view is that it was Labour but I'm sure you'll see things differently!
martyn142

And it was LABOUR which introduced top-up fees for students. Bit late now to moan that the Con-Dems have hiked it up to £9000, it was the People's Party which set the ball rolling.
Eddie legge

To Forums anti labour critics

Son OF a Cynic
Was your reply on this occasion to my posing about? Tories Out, for your own amusement if so I shall try to keep you amused    
Did you know that PM Cameron said the brave men and women in our Armed Forces? who had been injured would not suffer financially through welfare reforms
Sapper Karl Boon lost his left leg in a Taliban rocket – propelled attack in Afghanistan in 2010  
The Department of Work and pen-pushers have told him he can no longer have £54-a- week living allowance because he can walk about 400 yards unaided
Did you know that our present government at Westminster promised they were going to get everyone off benefits and back to work?
And in order to do so they have changed the names of the benefits and made the forms more difficult for people to understand and complete
How many more people have to die, just weeks after being told you are not disabled anymore?
Granted there are some scroungers and people who know how to work the system but there are many more that have a genuine disability who are not receiving benefits like DLA that they are entitled to

Eddie Legge
SonOfACynic

No Eddie, read it again!! I posed a question which as always you chose to ignore  Shocked

I think you'll find the benefit cheats outweigh those with a legitimate claim and for that reason i think the tests/criteria should be stringent.

Although, before you start, I think injured service personnel should be paid the same salary as at the point of injury until such time as they are able to find alternative employment (if they are lucky enough to be able to do so).

Was it not labour who capped the amount wounded soldiers were able to claim? I could be wrong and don't have the FACTS to hand.

Now Eddie, humour me with your reply, try actually answering questions and maybe spoil us with a few lines on why said service personnel are where they are getting injured in the first place? I didn't send them there and Cameron wasn't in power!!!
Eddie legge

Labour bashing again

Martyn  labour bashing again, Who introduced student top up fees and why, did you not think it might have been a necessity, You probably knew but failed to mention  that today’s Welsh students under a Labour Assembly will have degree courses heavily subsidised even if they chose to study in England
Martyn whatever you say, Labour are here to stay, Heaven praise the day, When you shall follow their way, By the way Martyn thanks for the advice,  

Eddie Legge
martyn142

If it was a necessity for Labour to impose top-up fees Eddie, how come it isn't a necessity for the Con-Dems too? After all the economic situation is FAR worse now than it was when Labour introduced this tax on education.

I do know about Welsh students being subsidised Eddie - I have two children starting degree courses this year. The subsidy was initially introduced by the Plaid-Labour coalition though. And of course it wouldn't have been needed if Labour hadn't introduced top-up fees.

You're welcome to the advice and I hope your problems have been resolved.
Eddie legge

To my anti labour Friends

Son OF a Cynic I don’t know for sure who capped the amount that injured service personnel could claim but I do know who took it all away
NATO sent troops into Afghanistan Did Tony Blair invade Iraq illegally hasn’t been proven either way
Who gave orders to sink Belgrano We do know before Falkland crises Thatcher was going through her own political crises her future in politics was not assured
You say like others that most people on benifits are scroungers and why do you say it Because you listen to what others say What about that for a laugh   
Martyn Who says that Tories would not have introduced student tuition fees what happened to Plaid if has you say they played a part in subsidising Welsh students
Tell us again why you left the party that has given the people of Wales Free prescriptions free hospital parking and free buss passes for the elderly not forgetting financial help for Welsh students

Eddie Legge
Ian Jones

martyn142 wrote:
And it was LABOUR which introduced top-up fees for students. Bit late now to moan that the Con-Dems have hiked it up to £9000, it was the People's Party which set the ball rolling.


Eddie Legge:
                    Replied "Martyn  labour bashing again"


4 political threads started by Eddie Legge, all anti Tory or anti Con/Dem.

Tories out!
Protect our Welfare State!
Choice Cameron or Thatcher!
Thatcher said you turn--------------!

I agree with some of your points Eddie, but don't you think Martyn is also entitled to his views on the thread without you making it out to be a case of Labour bashing? and he did state in his reply "Con-Dems have hiked it up to £9000" that doesn't seem like Labour bashing to me.
I do not expect a straight answer as you never answer any questions put to you, although others are courteous enough to answer your questions!
Ohh and b/t/w Poems are not frowned upon on forum as there has been a page set up By the Labour basher  Smile for any member to contribute poems or anything else cultural wich is sadly lacking in posts at the moment.
Eddie legge

Let truth be known

Ian Nice to know you are still around
Please tell me now Has Martyn ever praised labour even though they have done most good for Wales and his home in Blaenau Gwent Multi millions of pounds invested when redeveloping Old Ebbw Vale steelworks site, Ebbw valley rail link, Cwm by pass road, Dulling of Heads of Valley road, Abertillery town centre, and least we ever forget, Who tided up our beautiful valleys environment and to repeat myself who has given us Free Prescriptions for all free hospital parking for all and free bus passes for the elderly and disabled not forgetting student fees?

Eddie Legge
Ian Jones

Yet again you evade answering questions Eddie.
You answer a question with another question most of which is Rhetorical.
If you haven't visited Abertillery Town centre I suggest you don't comment on it as the work done there is far from satisfactory already they are cutting up the brand new paving stones, I believe to find the services to the shops which should have been done before the paving was laid.
Whatever the reason is it is still a waste of man hours and the money that was secured for this project.
I believe the Church wall has to be redone to some extent as the standard of work was very poor although this was to my understanding Church funded.
Also the building site as it is, is an accident waiting to happen no street lighting barriers knocked over and the feet of the plastic barriers stick out onto the pavement causing a tripping hazzard.
Who is organising this project now Eddie the Con/Dems the Independents? or your Party?
Now then Ed I have answered your question why don't you answer mine and other's?
Ian

Eddie(whichever version this is)is not interested in peoples opinions.He/they only want to promote the Labour Party,if you want a straight answer to a question,try this one:

Eddie do you believe that Labour are the best all singing and dancing political party that ever existed?.........     Laughing
martyn142

Eddie - I doubt anyone else will find this of any interest , so you might want to move onto the next thread.  Laughing

You won't get an argument out of me that historically Labour has done a tremendous amount for the working people of this country, including Blaenau Gwent. Of course it has and I've not suggested otherwise.

By the same token you won't find me praising the Tories. My opinion of them is much the same as Nye Bevan's. I used to have respect for the old Liberal party even if I didn’t support a lot of their policies. I have no respect at all for the Lib-Dems who’ve sold their souls for a few years’ share of power.

When I supported Labour and actively campaigned for the party I knew it was very far from perfect but I believed that it was far preferable to the alternatives and it was, at least in principle, a socialist party. I had hoped that we – and by “we” I include many of the current and recent leaders of Labour locally – could make it the party of the people it was always supposed to be.

What happened instead is that the national party moved steadily ever further to the right until we ended up with Tony Blair. I’m not expecting you to admit it, but I think that even you would agree privately that Blair would have been very much at home in the Tory party. By the time we got to Blair and the party had dumped Clause IV, I could see very little difference between Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems. That me a bit angry to be honest since it is us, the working people who founded the Labour party and it now seemed more concerned with getting into power than doing anything much for us when it got there. If you had told us Labour supporters who were getting vilified, beaten up and arrested back in the Thatcher era that our party would take us into an arguably illegal war, would fail to repeal Tory anti-union laws, would dissuade working class children from attending university by imposing top-up fees on them, would rob working people’s pension funds…. I won’t bother to go on, but we’d have thought you were mad.

And while this was going on the people who I had been campaigning with all those years ago had won power in Blaenau Gwent. You may have noticed major changes for the better in our towns over the  last 20-30 years. I haven’t. The people who were fighting tooth and nail to get rid of Brian Scully and his ilk are now very cosy with him thank you very much.

I am anti-Labour Eddie because it has, in my opinion failed us. You appear happy to support anything it does without question because, well, because it is called the Labour party and years ago it did a lot of good things for the working class. That’s good enough for you but it’s not good enough for me. If someone lets me down I don’t keep offering them my trust. I won’t ever vote Tory, I won’t vote Lib-Dem but I most certainly won’t vote for a party which has turned its back on its own people either, however many by-passes it builds.

I don’t expect a reasoned reply Eddie and I’m sure you won’t disappoint me.

Martyn
Eddie legge

When opinions clash

Martyn labours wilderness years
Just a reminder under Michael Foots leadership we suffered a landslide defeat the winter of discontent put an end to Jim Callaghan’s era
Crying out for change and who had the courage and the know how to make it happen  
We can thank John Smith Neil Kinnock New Labour Gordon Brown and Tony Blair for making the Labour Party electable again
Evan after upsetting left wing socialists in government and country and of being accused of illegally invading Iraq Blair still had three terms in office
It was Tony Benn who said and I quote “Tony Blair did not change the Labour Party –he created an entirely new party”  
On the matter of local politics did you not know Martyn That Brian Scully when reported to Ombudsman was cleared of any wrongdoing His first cousin Peter Law was not?
I have a copy of Ombudsman report on labour local council and Peter Law
In your opinion Tony Blair would have been very much at home in the Tory party had that been true Tony Benn would not have been so honest and kind
In my Opinion Peter Law the man you chose over Maggie Jones was never a true socialist he owed labour more than they owed him
He said to Dragons Eye presenter David Williams Had I been given the Deputy Presiding Officers Role in Assembly things might have turned out differently in Blaenau Gwent  
What has happened today with the new party of Peters making and you’re helping Peoples Voice Blaenau Gwent along with Hillmans Real Independents and Rockes no party given candidates? Sunk without trace
Whatever pleasure you get Martyn when condemning labour is for your conscience alone and please remember it is the one thing no man can afford to leave behind

Eddie Legge
Eddie legge

Keep Ian amused

Ian Who were the best ever just consider the following, labours singing and dancing tune “Stand up and fight until you hear the bell”
Peoples Voice and Independents “Don’t blame me”
Sorry to hear about Abertillery town centre who in your opinion is responsible for delays and bad workman ship
I am not guilty of saying that labour has never done any wrong all political parties Westminster and local have in the past been guilty of broken promises    
When I said about Welsh Labour subsidising Welsh students Did Martyn really have to go back ten years or more to remind us that it was labour who introduced Top up Fees was I then to be chastised for saying Martyn was  labour bashing again

Eddie Legge
martyn142

It was 2004 actually Eddie, which I make eight years ago. You are probably getting it mixed up with their promise in 2001 - which is over 10 years ago - that they wouldn't introduce top-up fees. I quote from their manifesto "We will not introduce 'top-up' fees and have legislated to prevent them. " Embarassed
martyn142

Re: When opinions clash

Eddie legge wrote:
It was Tony Benn who said and I quote “Tony Blair did not change the Labour Party –he created an entirely new party...
In your opinion Tony Blair would have been very much at home in the Tory party had that been true Tony Benn would not have been so honest and kind”


This is hilarious Eddie. You appear to be quoting Tony Benn as if he was speaking favourably of Blair. Here's the full quote

"But what is really significant about his political life was that he set up a new political party, New Labour. This transformed the Labour party from being a radical alternative to the Conservatives into a quasi-Thatcherite sect "

I don't think he liked him very much did he?  Laughing
Ian Jones

Re: Keep Ian amused

Eddie legge wrote:
Ian Who were the best ever just consider the following, labours singing and dancing tune “Stand up and fight until you hear the bell”
Peoples Voice and Independents “Don’t blame me”
Sorry to hear about Abertillery town centre who in your opinion is responsible for delays and bad workman ship
I am not guilty of saying that labour has never done any wrong all political parties Westminster and local have in the past been guilty of broken promises    
When I said about Welsh Labour subsidising Welsh students Did Martyn really have to go back ten years or more to remind us that it was labour who introduced Top up Fees was I then to be chastised for saying Martyn was  labour bashing again

Eddie Legge

Sorry to hear about Abertillery town centre who in your opinion is responsible for delays and bad workman ship


Eddie, I asked you:
Who is organising this project now Eddie the Con/Dems the Independents? or your Party?
And you expect me to answer my own question haha! Come on mr Labour spouter spit out the truth for once, who is responsible Eddie?
B/t/w, please use my full name Ian Jones, as I am sure the other Ian on forum does not wish to waste his time responding to your pathetic rants.

I see you cast your vote to the party with the best tune, very scientific!
I myself apply a very similar scientific formula I only back horses with four white feet.
Eddie legge

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ABERTILLERY TOWN CENTRE REGENERATION
PHASE 2: CHURCH STREET & ST. MICHAEL’S CHURCH

August 2012

Progress with Regeneration works on Church Street and High Street is as follows:-

Contractors Dawnus, are currently progressing works on the Church Street Phase 2 public realm enhancement scheme, with an anticipated completion date of October 2012.

   Two-way traffic is currently permitted on Church Street and around Park Place to allow deliveries to the town centre. This arrangement also enables the Thursday market to continue operating at the northern-end of Church Street until works are completed
   External restoration works to St. Michaels Church have now been completed. Development of the proposed public space between the Vicarage and St. Michaels Church can now commence.
   The road closure on High Street is in place for 8-weeks, but is hoped that works will be completed in advance of that. All bus services on High Street will temporarily provide passenger services from Castle Street whilst this work is being carried out
   Over the next few weeks, large areas of paving are scheduled to be completed at the southern end of Church Street in order to make the footways more accessible.
   The work has now progressed to the point where we hope everyone can begin to appreciate what Church Street will eventually look like. In the meantime, if you require further information or advice, you should contact the following:

Ryan James, BGCBC Engineer - 01495 355359 OR Dawnus Construction Ltd - 01792 781870

£13million revamp for Abertillery Town Centre

Abertillery Town Centre is to receive a £13million funding boost for further regeneration works.

The Welsh Government has confirmed that Blaenau Gwent Council has been successful in a bid for funding to help boost the economic development of the town centre and provide a better environment for the local community and businesses as well as attracting visitors and potential investors to the town.

Welsh Government Business Minister, Jane Hutt AM, and Deputy Minister for Regeneration, Jocelyn Davies AM, announced a £10m Welsh Government funding package, which includes support from the European Regional Development Fund, Targeted Match Fund and Heads of the Valleys programme. The remainder of the funding will come from the Council and private sector resources.

Key town centre streets will receive a makeover including Church Street, High Street, Somerset Street and work will continue on Foundry Square.

Tillery Street will undergo a transformation and works to improve derelict and prominent buildings in the town will get underway, including Abertillery Miners’ Institute. The town centre car park will also be refurbished and CCTV equipment installed. A new traffic scheme will improve the flow of vehicles around the town.

Funding will also be available for existing and new businesses to create or safeguard jobs, as well as for improvements to the appearance of commercial properties.
 
Councillor Don Wilcox, the Council’s Executive Member for Regeneration said:

“This is great news. We have worked closely and positively with Welsh Government Ministers and officials to ensure the best possible outcome for the people of Abertillery.

“I would like to thank our regeneration officers who moved quickly to reprofile projects within the Abertillery Regeneration bid to ensure that Targeted Match Funding could be achieved and that we are able to move forward to the next stage in this exciting town centre regeneration project.”

FORMER TRINITY CHAPEL, ABERTILLERY –
PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT

The former Trinity Chapel building on Church Street in Abertillery town centre was acquired by BGCBC in July 2010. This is a key building in the town, with a prime position on Church Street.

The Council have recently commissioned Quarterbridge, specialist market development management consultants, to carry out a feasibility study and proposals for conversion of the building into an indoor market facility with other complimentary uses. BGCBC architects, in conjunction with Quarterbridge, have produced the designs for the refurbishment of the interior and exterior of the building to significantly enhance this key building in the heart of the Town.

Public consultation on the building design and proposed market venture took place in April 2011 and feedback from the local community to date has been very positive in relation to the proposals. A steering group consisting of local business and community representation has been set up to help inform the feasibility work for the project. Further public and business consultations will also be undertaken.

EU and Heads of the Valley Programme funding is helping to support the delivery of this project. Refurbishment works are due to commence in January 2012 and the building is planned to be operational by Summer/Autumn 2012.





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Eddie legge

Who to blame

Ian Jones Stop your horsing around And consider who do we thank for securing the funding for the Abertillery town revamp and who do we blame for the delays the  Former Independat council the newly elected labour council We might well ask why has the people and traders of Abertillery been subjected to continual disruption for four years since work started on Foundry Bridge
What about contractors

Eddie Legge
martyn142

Perhaps we should ask Tony Benn who he blames for the mess in the town centre?  Laughing

I can guarantee 100% who the people of Abertillery are blaming Eddie and they are being very vocal about it. It's not Tony Blair, it's not the Con-Dems and it's not the former Independent-led council. It's the current local Labour-controlled council.

Still they won the election and they should be safe for the next four years so why should they be bothered eh?  Rolling Eyes
Ian Jones

Re: Who to blame

Eddie legge wrote:
Ian Jones Stop your horsing around And consider who do we thank for securing the funding for the Abertillery town revamp and who do we blame for the delays the  Former Independat council the newly elected labour council We might well ask why has the people and traders of Abertillery been subjected to continual disruption for four years since work started on Foundry Bridge
What about contractors

Eddie Legge



What about contractors Eddie, are you in need of some?

What you posted is just how things should have been going, but that is not the case.
The work will probably be finished on or around schedule but if it wasn't for the mistakes made it would probably been finished by now.
This isn't just me having a go Eddie, perhaps you should get your chums to survey the public of Abertillery to see how they feel, you know like they did with the Rail link which was a "Pukka Job" according to your old butty.
If you must meddle in the affairs of Abertillery you could at least have been visiting in person to keep the public up to date, instead of you being fed by you know who, and as a good Labour Horsey you seem very well fed.
Ever seen National scarlet Ed? oops I mean velvet Must have been thinking of Lord Kinnock's Robes, you know that Welsh bloke that was a waste of space as a leader, the one who turned his back on the Miner's, the one who wanted to abolish the House of Lords, and yet him and wifey ended up in the clique.
Why don't you start Blaina online up Ed you could have it all to yourself, i'm sure it would be a very STABLE environment.
Eddie legge

Who knows What

Ian Jones, did you know that a horse’s favourite TV show is Neighbours
I am not meddling in the affairs of Abertillery
From 1958 living then in Nantyglo my wife and I did our regular shopping in Abertillery
Ebbw Vale was two bus journeys away Abertillery just the one
First car 1970 still shopping Abertilery,
Regular visits Woolworths before it closed town centre new Tesco for many years today regular visits to Santander was Alliance Leister I was the first person to top up my mobile phone in new shop near disabled bay
A few weeks ago on my way to same shop to buy an in car charger for my phone Arrows pointing road closed I followed a Taxi and to my horror a dead  end had to reverse and said to hell with it and went home
Did you know that Independent Cllr Don Wilcox was the former Council’s Executive Member for Regeneration?
Eddie Legge
martyn142

Why are you telling us who the previous Executive Member for Regeneration was Eddie? Wouldn't the current member be more relevant?

Oh hang on, they aren't Labour are they?  Laughing
Ian Jones

Re: Who knows What

Eddie legge wrote:
Ian Jones, did you know that a horse’s favourite TV show is Neighbours


I always thought a horses fav tv show was about a talking horse.
Now what was his name ummm Mr ....? the name escapes me for the moment perhaps you will know it Ed?

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