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pent boy

Welsh football

What an unbelievable season its been for our 4 main Welsh football clubs. Huge congratulations to Newport County AFC on their promotion back into the football league. The season has just been so uplifting for anyone who wants to see all the Welsh clubs do well, Cardiff City winning the Championship and promotion to the Premier League, Swansea finishing in the top half of the Premier and winning a Cup Final, Wrexham winning another Cup Final and just falling at the last hurdle for the 2cnd year running in their quest to return to the Football League. On top of all this Gareth Bale is winning all the awards going. Its hard to believe what the County have done since they were dead and almost buried 25 years ago, onwards and upwards.
Rocke

German football is having a bit of a renaissance as well mind you.
All-German Champions League Final (at Wembley of all places).

Wry humour apart it is nice to see County back in the League, especially because of the way they had to leave it.
I also feel sorry for the Wrexham supporters, who personally saved the club.

Their time will come.

2014/15 and FOUR Welsh clubs in the Football League.
martyn142

It's been an incredible season pent boy. It's been an incredible decade or so come to that if you are a Bluebird.

I must admit that on balance I'd have preferred Wrexham to have got through, only because I think North Wales could do with a bit of representation and because of the appalling mess they had to fight their way out of to get where they are. But good luck to Newport - I hope they do well in League 2.

I have to say I have mixed feelings about City getting to the Premier League. I haven't tended to watch PL football because there are very few PL footballers I can stomach. Obviously I want us to do well next season but the idea of us making a success of it and in future seasons signing players of the ilk of Suarez, Rooney, etc, leaves me cold.

I sat and watched our last game of the season against Hull in a pub in Wells with my wife and a Leicester fan (who had to wait until the 90th minute to know he'd be watching his team the playoffs)and felt sad to be leaving the Championship behind while still wanting us to do well in the higher division. There is more excitement in a week of Championship football than in a whole season of the predictable PL.

www.confused.com  Laughing
pent boy

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Got to agree with you about some of the overpaid idiots you spoke about Martyn and I honestly think there are now too many foreign players in the top tier to the detriment of all our home nations teams. But on the other hand it has to be great to watch your team play against the top teams even though you know they will do well to finish anywhere near halfway up the table.
Rocke, dont you think its its brilliant that the 2 German sides are in the final, its been dominated by English and Spanish teams lately so I think its a marvellous change. Its the same with the Premiership, I think it would be great if 2 or 3 different teams were fighting it out at the top each season but money dictates nowadays. By the way I noticed you enjoying the band saturday in the commercial, you are quite good on the old air guitar Smile
Rocke

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pent boy wrote:
Got to agree with you about some of the overpaid idiots you spoke about Martyn and I honestly think there are now too many foreign players in the top tier to the detriment of all our home nations teams. But on the other hand it has to be great to watch your team play against the top teams even though you know they will do well to finish anywhere near halfway up the table.
Rocke, dont you think its its brilliant that the 2 German sides are in the final, its been dominated by English and Spanish teams lately so I think its a marvellous change. Its the same with the Premiership, I think it would be great if 2 or 3 different teams were fighting it out at the top each season but money dictates nowadays. By the way I noticed you enjoying the band saturday in the commercial, you are quite good on the old air guitar Smile


I think I'm quite old on a good air guitar !
They were a good band, amd in fairness Gav doesn't have carp (sic).

Re the football it is nice that things go around, especially when it's not about money. Man Utd were able to buy whoever years ago but now they are in 'schtum' and it shows.
PSG tried to buy the Champions League - and failed (this year).
Abramovich got away with it last year.
What are Barca going to do now?

On to 'home' territory - the change to red strip obviously helped Cardiff.

Regrettably, football has now become a business, just like American Football.
In fact, how long before it becomes like "Soccer", as the yanks call it, stage-managed like wrestling etc. etc. ?
martyn142

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pent boy wrote:
On to 'home' territory - the change to red strip obviously helped Cardiff.

Only to the extent that the investment in the squad was made by Vincent Tan who demanded the change. Unless one believes, as Tan appears to, that red is a lucky colour.  Confused
welshlizmiles

It's been an incredible season for all our teams, Swansea in Europe next season!!! The only problem is the possibility of Laudrup going to Everton to replace David Moyes if he goes to Man. Utd.
Rocke

Can't see why he'd want to go to Everton, any more than Rogers going to Liverpool.

Ah - MONEY !!!
martyn142

I'm not a massive fan of the Jacks I'll admit but that isn't what makes me say that I think they'll find next season much harder because of the European commitment.

It's not nailed on I appreciate but Birmingham got relegated the season they were in Europe and Newcastle's year hasn't gone too well either. It's tough if you haven't got a strong squad and the Jacks haven't. Hopefully we'll have to play them a few days after they've had to make a long trip back from Russia  Laughing
welshlizmiles

Married to a Birmingham City fan and yes the Carling Cup win left them relegated at the end of the season. The following season we watched one of the European games, a 3-0 victory against a team  from Madeira. We talked and talked about a trip to Bruges (where they won 2-1!!!) but didn't go in the end and are still regretting it.
Anyway back to proper sport, off to Hong Kong and Australia watching the Lions in 20 days! Counting big sleeps like kids waiting for Christmas.
pent boy

Australia

Ooh you lucky little Welshlizmiles.
martyn142

Interesting you should mention rugby. Several commentators, including former Welsh international Mike Hall have predicted that the success of Swansea and now Cardiff (and to some extent Newport too) could further undermine the "national game".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/22201954

The national team are doing fantastically well. But regional rugby appears to be failing ("dying on its feet" according to Hall) and gets poor attendances (8,000 average at the Blues v 23,000 at CCFC) and according to Hall, they could get worse. And of course local club rugby crowds are very low - I noticed no one has congratulated Abertillery on getting promoted this season, probably because no one knew!

By the way - congratulations Abertillery!  Smile
pent boy

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Now now Martyn, lets get it right, "congratulations to Abertillery Blaenau Gwent on your promotion ". Cant be forgetting my old team, and never forget they were there before Abertillery, 1870. Wink
martyn142

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pent boy wrote:
Now now Martyn, lets get it right, "congratulations to Abertillery Blaenau Gwent on your promotion ". Cant be forgetting my old team, and never forget they were there before Abertillery, 1870. Wink

Quite right pent boy - my apologies!
Rocke

It was big money and regional rugby that contributed to the fall of Abertillery and then the merger of the two clubs.

It's nice to see them recovering.
pent boy

rugby clubs

Rocke its brilliant to see them cimbing the ladder and it would be even better to see them do a "Swansea City " and get back to the very top of Welsh club rugby, that is if the W.R.U. hierarchy allow it. My team has been hammering the door down for the past 3 seasons but there doesnt seem to be anyone at home to let them in. They lost 2 games this season, both by 1 point, so were almost invincable, but thats still not good enough. Ah well theres always next season, and the next, and the next Smile
kdwent

You think you got problems pent boy?

Spare a thought for me I follow Old Tylerians for my sins lol. We have a 100% loss rate this season, kind of the exact opposite to invincible eh. lol never mind as you say there's always next season
Rocke

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pent boy wrote:
Rocke its brilliant to see them cimbing the ladder and it would be even better to see them do a "Swansea City " and get back to the very top of Welsh club rugby, that is if the W.R.U. hierarchy allow it. My team has been hammering the door down for the past 3 seasons but there doesnt seem to be anyone at home to let them in. They lost 2 games this season, both by 1 point, so were almost invincable, but thats still not good enough. Ah well theres always next season, and the next, and the next Smile


The problem is typical of a lot of things - the old boy network.
Look at the trouble the Welsh had in breaking into the English premiership, and carpped upon at the first opportunity.
Welsh Rugby's the same - Pontypridd wasn't posh enough, didn't portray the right image so the blazers in Cardiff did for 'em.
Is your team Pontypool? I gather they've had issues as well in the past.
(Apologies but I simply don't have time to be a true follower of any sport or team, unless it's on the telly these days !).

Players start out being as loyal as they can but eventually they have to play at their true potential/level and get picked up by 'bigger' clubs.
Look at the George North situation.
AberBG will, at best, probably be a breeding ground and nursery for what we all hope will be lads who reach a very high level in rugby. Unfortunately the club won't get much financial reward for the help and support it gives them, without transfer fees.

But good luck in the next division.
pent boy

my team

Its Ebbw Vale Rocke not Pooler, they have won their league 3 seasons on the trot but in their wisdom the W.R.U. decided there would be no promotion to the Welsh Premier division so they have to win it for a 4th year and hope that the rules dont change again.
Kdwent I did watch the Old Ts playing against Newbridge Utd back in september and yes you do have problems Smile but it is division 7 after all. My grandson is number 8 for the Utd and he says that next season they will be part of the Newbridge set up so I can see them being much stronger in the future.
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Rocke

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pent boy wrote:
Its Ebbw Vale Rocke not Pooler, they have won their league 3 seasons on the trot but in their wisdom the W.R.U. decided there would be no promotion to the Welsh Premier division so they have to win it for a 4th year and hope that the rules dont change again.
Kdwent I did watch the Old Ts playing against Newbridge Utd back in september and yes you do have problems Smile but it is division 7 after all. My grandson is number 8 for the Utd and he says that next season they will be part of the Newbridge set up so I can see them being much stronger in the future.
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Oops sorry !  Embarassed
As I said, I don't have much time to follow things.

Now you mention EV though, they were done over in the same way as Pontypridd, forced to be a feeder club for the rich kids at the bottom of the valley.

Money ruining sport - it's my pet hate.
kdwent

thanks for that pent. my son is flanker and to be fair they have got some good and talented youngsters there, who in all fairness could.have certainly made it in the higher divisions. But OTs seem to inspire loyalty, which is unusual inthe game nowadays, but nice to see.As I understand it they are in the midst of a three or more year plan of an assault on the league and fair play, if effort and dedication count for anything then they deserve some reward
pent boy

Loyalty

Loyalty Kdwent, what a lovely word, but rarely heard in sport today. But you are right, the further down the ladder the better the loyalty. Its still more like a social club and friends playing with and for each other, mind you I must say that the Ebbw Vale squad only loses 1 or 2 players each season to the Premier teams and hopefully it will be close to the same squad next season.
My brother was loyal to Ebbw in the early 60s when Geoff Beckenham the Cardiff hooker retired, Billy Thomas Abertillery's hooker wasnt so loyal, went to Cardiff and got capped. Big brother was reserve a dozen times and didnt get a cap so the loyalty sadly didnt pay off for him.
kdwent

All too true pent boy.  Loyalty unfortunately doesn't seem to pay off.
Rocke

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pent boy wrote:
Loyalty Kdwent, what a lovely word, but rarely heard in sport today. But you are right, the further down the ladder the better the loyalty. Its still more like a social club and friends playing with and for each other, mind you I must say that the Ebbw Vale squad only loses 1 or 2 players each season to the Premier teams and hopefully it will be close to the same squad next season.
My brother was loyal to Ebbw in the early 60s when Geoff Beckenham the Cardiff hooker retired, Billy Thomas Abertillery's hooker wasnt so loyal, went to Cardiff and got capped. Big brother was reserve a dozen times and didnt get a cap so the loyalty sadly didnt pay off for him.


Bob Norster springs to mind, left Aber for Cardiff and the rest is history.
There's a few more but it's not fair to name them.

I totally agree about the loyalty, but there's also families to feed and reality has to set in.

As I said, money ruins sport and destroys the sporting spirit.

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