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Rocke

You can't stick knives in a Rocke, 'Eddie Legge'

And you can't get the Ombudsman to do it for you, can you?

Tee hee, roll up and see what the 'Eddie Legge' cabal have suckered †Mr T. E. Legge into doing.

Letter of complaint to the Ombudsman. Originally dated Friday, April 20 2012 but that was crossed out and manually amended to 'Tue 24'.

It reads:

Dear Sir/madam (sic),

On Wednesday, March 21st at 1.41 a.m. on the Abertillery Online Discussion Forum Website, Cllr. Rocke, an elected Cwmtillery Ward member (sic) of Blaenau Gwent County Borough Council, published an article entitled, "is 'Eddie Legge' an election liability?"

The article begins "The sane 'ordinary' people among you will have realized that I have used the apostrophes to indicate the pseudonym 'Eddie Legge' and not the person of the same name."

With this preface Cllr Rocke seems to think that he has some sort of legal protective device that exonerates him from personal abuse of myself in his vitriolic diatribes. He also demonstrates his ignorance of the English language and its usage - his apostrophes should be inverted commas. Apart from personal abuse, Cllr. Rocke alludes to a person called "Barry" who would, purportedly, be my ghost writer or eminence grise in whatever I utter ! (This led to a charge against Cllr Rocke of paranoia from another website contributor).

As a Catholic (by Christening rather than practice) I was interested in attempting to trace the history of an uncle who was a Catholic priest. I enlisted the help of Anthony Earl-Willimas, locally born and now a Bishop in the Catholic Church. I was seeking answers to the question "why after WW2 did the Vatican aid Nazis to escape justice?" This was a matter for myself and my interlocutor Bishop Earl-Williams.

This enquiry prompted a response from Cllr. Rocke with the question "How DARE you seek to make political capital out of mankind's (sic) darkest days?" †Cllr Rocke embellishes the circumstance with references to Auschwitz-Birkenau Concentration Camp and "all the millions...who must have died..(who) never for one second thought that70 (sic) years on there would be a Grade One prat living in the valleys who would use their suffering in order to score political points in a debate over religion."

Quite frankly, apart from these mindless extrapolations and the personal abuse contained in this website publication, it is the outpouring of an unhinged person, who is totally unfit to be a public representative on the local political scene. My exchange of enquiry with regard to the history of the Catholic Church during 1939 - 45 and post-war had no connection with Cllr. Rocke and his abusive demeaning comments † (sic - missing full stop)
Cllr Rocke's utterences are not what one would expect from a public representative bringing the office of councillor into disrepute. I feel Cllr. Rocke is unfit to represent anyone.

I would appreciate the Office of the Ombudsman considering my complaint of personal abuse uttered by Cllr. Rocke. I am enclosing photocopies of the abusive material for perusal.

† † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † Yours Faithfully,


† † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † E. Legge
Rocke

As it happens, due to a technical hitch I never got to see this before the Ombudsman did the usual with complaints about me ie. decided it wasn't even worthy of investigation.

That means that I never got to reply to it, and in truth I think that in this case it was better that I didn't.

I was once told that 'you'll know when you see a Barrie Sutton letter' during a discussion about letters attributed to one Eddie Legge in the papers. I gather than Mr Sutton is another Hedley McCarthyesque constructor of Heath-Robinson type letters.

For those who don't know H-R was a cartoonist renowned for his  drawings of over-complicated machines and contraptions.
I think the best example is the game Mousetrap. (He didn't invent it but he might well have come up with a drawing of a device that worked in much the same way).

I'm given to understand that Mr Sutton is a former teacher. Well, I was a star pupil at Nantyglo Comp., one of Mr Denning's finest if I might say so. Grade 1, 'O' Level English.
Unfortunately I wasn't consistent - I managed an 8 and two 9's in Literature !

And of course neither is Mr Legge's letter of complaint.

* I'm referred to as 'Cllr Rocke' 9 times. In 6 instances there's a full stop after 'Cllr' and in the other 3 no such thing.

* I'm a lower case 'member' when the context that it is used in ie. to denote that I'm a councillor, should make it a proper noun and hence it should start with a capital letter. However, Auschwitz-Birkenau, which most regrettably happened to be a concentration camp, apparently has the offcial name of Auschwitz-Birkenau Concentration Camp.
Dartmoor prison is a prison on Dartmoor. Her Majesty's Prison, Dartmoor is the name of a building and hence appropriately capitalised.

Anyway, see the next post for all the fun and mickey-taking !!
Rocke

Re: You can't stick knives in a Rocke, 'Eddie Legge'

Rocke wrote:

Dear Sir/madam (sic), oops - no capital for 'madam' !

On Wednesday, March 21st at 1.41 a.m. on the Abertillery Online Discussion Forum Website, Cllr. Rocke, an elected Cwmtillery Ward member (sic no capital 'm' again !) of Blaenau Gwent County Borough Council, published an article entitled, "is 'Eddie Legge' an election liability?"

The article begins "The sane 'ordinary' people among you will have realized - oops, untrue - I never use US spellings. You should check Eddie's PC's Regional Settings! that I have used the apostrophes to indicate the pseudonym 'Eddie Legge' and not the person of the same name."

With this preface Cllr Rocke seems to think that he has some sort of legal protective device that exonerates him from personal abuse of myself in his vitriolic diatribes - I have, it's called acumen. He also demonstrates his ignorance of the English language and its usage - his apostrophes should be inverted commas - mmm, I've never heard it called 'the inverted commas key, only 'the apostrophe key'. Apart from personal abuse, Cllr. Rocke alludes to a person called "Barry" who would, purportedly, be my ghost writer or eminence grise (that's pseudonym to us ordinary folk) in whatever I utter ! So, you have a ghost writer or pseudonym in order to er... speak then? (This led to a charge against Cllr Rocke of paranoia from another website contributor). Really mixed up now aren't we? Purportedly - oops, catching your bad habits now - presumably - you mean 'a charge of paranoia against Cllr Rocke by....'

As a Catholic (by Christening - oops, Baptism I think ! - rather than practice) I was interested in attempting to trace the history of an uncle who was a Catholic priest. I enlisted the help of Anthony Earl-Williams, locally born and now a Bishop in - no, no, it's OF -  the Catholic Church. I was seeking answers to the question "why after WW2 did the Vatican aid Nazis to escape justice?" What a strange way to trace the history of a uncle. I can't stop myself, I have to ask it, forgive me but - are you saying that your uncle was involved in that??!!!  This was a matter for myself and my interlocutor - another interesting one. Does A E-W realise that you have called him the leader of a minstrel band? Perhaps you meant the other party to a conversation. Of course, either one is WRONG - Anthony Earl-Williams.

This enquiry prompted a response from Cllr. Rocke with the question "How DARE you seek to make political capital out of mankind's (sic should be a capital 'M', it's a Proper Noun ) darkest days?" †Cllr Rocke embellishes the circumstance - oops, one can't embellish a happening, a fact, which a circumstance is. One can embellish the circumstances surrounding it or one's explanation of it ie exaggerate - with references to Auschwitz-Birkenau Concentration Camp and "all the millions...who must have died.. I find the omission of the very apt words of The Man Who Sold the World distasteful, a clear attempt to prevent the reader from getting an understanding of my strength of feeling on the subject. "I gazed a gazely stare at all the millions there, who must have died alone, a long, long time ago", or can you not bring yourself to realise how many souls you have sullied with your stupid comment? (who) never for one second thought that70 (sic no space between t and 7) years on there would be a Grade One prat living in the valleys who would use their suffering in order to score political points in a debate over religion." As pater and mater taught me 'always tell the truth son, and you won't go far wrong'.

Quite frankly, apart from these mindless extrapolations and the personal abuse contained in this website publication, it is the outpouring of an unhinged person, who is totally unfit to be a public representative on the local political scene - is this me or Barrie we're talking about here? - My exchange of enquiry - the interaction with an interlocutor is called interlocution, in case you didn't know - with regard to the history of the Catholic Church during 1939 - 45 and post-war had no connection with Cllr. Rocke and his abusive demeaning comments † (sic - missing full stop)Well my comments had  everything to do with your version of your exchange of enquiry.
Cllr Rocke's utterences are not what one would expect from a public representative bringing the office of councillor into disrepute. Correct, because the Ombudsman thought so as well. If I DID want to bring the office of councillor into disrepute I'd have used parlance that would have caused me to fall foul of admin. (btw did the Comma Key not work?)I feel Cllr. Rocke is unfit to represent anyone.

I would appreciate the Office of the Ombudsman considering my complaint of personal abuse uttered by Cllr. Rocke. Of course you would, and so would Barrie Sutton, and I suspect a whole host of the clowns who failed to shut me, an amateur without a party machine behind me, up for 4 years. I am enclosing photocopies of the abusive material for perusal.

† † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † Yours Faithfully,


† † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † E. Legge


Would it not have been far simpler to drop the Ombudsman an email and say "It's my turn again, that incorrigible b****** Rocke has upset us again, please look at this link" and then drop the link to the article in?

It would have saved all your embarrassment wouldn't it ?

martyn142

Eddie

While I don't anticipate getting a reply, can I ask:

a. Whose idea was it to complain to the Ombudsman? I'm fairly confident it was 'suggested' to you wasn't?

b. Who wrote the letter of complaint on your behalf? I'm 100% certain it wasn't you.

c. Don't you feel just a little bit ashamed that you allow yourself to be manipulated by others in this way? I appreciate you are on the same side politically but if someone came to me and asked me to do their dirty work for them, whether our political views coincided or not, I'd tell them where to go.
Rocke

There's no fool like an old fool Martyn, sadly.
SonOfACynic

I asked question C in one form or another already Martyn, they won't reply  Surprised

I think it's pitiful he allows it but who am i to say!!!!!

aaaaaaaaaaand i'm 1,000,000% certain he never wrote it  Cool
martyn142

I know you did SonOfACynic and I know you got no answer.

I just think it's a bit of a shame that's all. Eddie is obviously a passionate Labour supporter. I'm not, but I can respect anyone who has that degree of commitment.

What I dislike is the sly way the people behind this go about their business - writing some of Eddie's messages/letters, Sue's regular appearances pretending to be anyone other than herself on this MB, and now getting Eddie to complain to the Ombudsman on their behalf.

What I can't respect is Eddie's willingness to lend his name to it.
Rocke

Are you listening Eddie ????
Ian

Rocke wrote 'I was once told that 'you'll know when you see a Barrie Sutton letter' during a discussion about letters attributed to one Eddie Legge in the papers'

Somewhere I think Eddie was referred to as being used like a puppet,pretty funny if it was really written by somone I always knew as Sooty   Laughing
Rocke

Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy
Eddie legge

Has justice been done

Did Eddie Legge report Rocke to Ombudsman yes, did he have help to write his letter yes, from who
My grandchildren are well educated and are only to pleased to help me write a letter as some would say properly, but not on this occasion.
And neither was I persuaded by another to report my feelings to the Ombudsman  
I was disappointed when the Ombudsman said that Cllr Rockes comments insinuating that Eddie Legge was a grade one valley prat were of poor taste and he would not be investigating further
Nothing about the hurt I felt when being accused of making political capital out of mankindís darkest days    
As a matter of fact I did consider going down to where Rocke has a pint of ale and ask him to repeat in person to what he said on Forum
It is common knowledge that those in public life should be guarded about what you   say within the public arena?  
And what he said in anger and haste was to me in very bad taste
As justice since been done, I did say in my letter to Ombudsman that in my opinion Cllr Rocke was totally unfit to be a public representative on the local political scene

Eddie Legge
Ian Jones

Re: Has justice been done

Eddie legge wrote:
Did Eddie Legge report Rocke to Ombudsman yes, did he have help to write his letter yes, from who
My grandchildren are well educated and are only to pleased to help me write a letter as some would say properly, but not on this occasion.
And neither was I persuaded by another to report my feelings to the Ombudsman †
I was disappointed when the Ombudsman said that Cllr Rockes comments insinuating that Eddie Legge was a grade one valley prat were of poor taste and he would not be investigating further
Nothing about the hurt I felt when being accused of making political capital out of mankindís darkest days † †
As a matter of fact I did consider going down to where Rocke has a pint of ale and ask him to repeat in person to what he said on Forum
It is common knowledge that those in public life should be guarded about what you † say within the public arena? †
And what he said in anger and haste was to me in very bad taste
As justice since been done,...........................................................................................................................................................................................................




I did say in my letter to Ombudsman that in my opinion Cllr Rocke was totally unfit to be a public representative on the local political scene

Eddie Legge




It seems the Ombudsman and others dissagree with your view of Rocke being unfit to be a public representative Eddie.
He has been thanked by many of his constituants for his past services to Cwmtillery. There is no shame in his not being re-elected.
And if your'e not happy with the Ombudsman REPORT HIM.
Rocke

Re: Has justice been done

Eddie legge wrote:
Did Eddie Legge report Rocke to Ombudsman yes, did he have help to write his letter yes, from who
My grandchildren are well educated and are only to pleased to help me write a letter as some would say properly, but not on this occasion.*
And neither was I persuaded by another to report my feelings to the Ombudsman †
I was disappointed when the Ombudsman said that Cllr Rockes comments insinuating that Eddie Legge was a grade one valley prat were of poor taste and he would not be investigating further
Nothing about the hurt I felt when being accused of making political capital out of mankindís darkest days † †
As a matter of fact I did consider going down to where Rocke has a pint of ale and ask him to repeat in person to what he said on Forum
It is common knowledge that those in public life should be guarded about what you † say within the public arena? †
And what he said in anger and haste was to me in very bad taste
As justice since been done, I did say in my letter to Ombudsman that in my opinion Cllr Rocke was totally unfit to be a public representative on the local political scene

Eddie Legge


OK, so which one of 'you' have been on holiday, given 'you' left it about a week to reply.

I'll spell it out for 'you' - the Ombudsman recognises that councillors have a public and private life, something that in my experience very few people realise.
I of course am very happy to interact with members of the public at any time of the day or night and in my days as a councillor that meant interacting as either a councillor or on a personal basis.

I called you a grade one prat on a personal level.
You see, anything that wasn't to do with this Borough couldn't have me acting in a councillor capacity.
And I hardly think taking on a grade one prat like you when you move from tracing an ancestor to making pronouncements about things related to The Holocaust is anything to do with this Borough.

Interesting that 'you' thought it was.
Sounds a lot like 'Irish Jim' and his attempt to have me hauled over the coals for expressing a purely personal view regarding the Queen's deference to Irish history.

Come on down 'Eddie Legge'.
15:00 every Saturday, The Mersh.
I'll take you all on.

* Communication is the name of the game Eddie.
Suggest to your grandchildren that it's not about using long words.
That nonsense is for people I used to encounter in the Council Chamber, where they thought that they had to use long words and phrases of eloquence in order to show that they were an adept politician.
That's why I called them boliticians.

Effective communication is not simply putting your viewpoint over, but giving visible evidence that you are qualified to put you point over, and also doing it in a way that guarantees the widest audience.

People see a post from 'Eddie Legge' and they look at it to see how stupid it's going to be. Those very active contributors will look to see how they can deride it.  

People see a post from Dai Rocke and they look to see 'what's he starting this time?'

One of the key aspects of communication - put yourself in your intended audience's shoes. How will they view it? How will they react, and hence how will they respond?
They won't respond the way you want them to if they react in a completely different way to what you expect.
And my response to your letter will hopefully be a good example of what I say.

No one (now) active on this forum uses words such as 'interlocutor'.
No disrespect to our fellow members but how many might think that eminence grise is something a bishop or the Pope uses?

Look at a lot of my posts.
Where do the big words come in? Yes, when my answers are solely directed at 'you', to demonstrate to 'you' that I have a high degree of control of my mother language. Have a look at some of 'your' answers, they fall into the trap set out, and 'you' then look stupid.

I hope you Eddie, and your grandchildren, learn something from this.
Because none of us are ever too old to learn, and all us grandparents want to help our grandchildren as effectively as possible to learn how to best make their way in life.

And just as us grandparents do, we always end with a kiss.
And that's what I'm doing.

Keep It Simple Stupid !

That's a very apt saying.
Eddie legge

Dream on Dai bach

Dai bach O Dai bach
Why did you never learn?
In spite of all you said and wrote  
Labour would return  

He who spoke so little and wise
Would reap the harvest of fame
And those who would deny his truth
Now hang their heads in shame

Independents rule no more
In the valleys of Gwlad y Glo
The land of coal has said goodbye
To those who did not know

Let there be a new tomorrow
Give joy to young and old
Now that spring has come again
Let the deeper truths be told

It was for love and pride
That labour won the day
From this you cannot hide
Independents sunk in May  


Eddie Legge
Rocke

To be honest I thank my lucky stars.

I'd be ashamed to be a member of a council that elected a person  who has in the past been held to account for in effect defrauding the council and council tax payers to be the Borough's Number 1 citizen.

What does that say ?

To me, a Mayor should be someone who is qualified to receive an Honour - medal etc. , someone who would not be turned down by being outside of specific criteria.

People can look beyond, forgive etc. and I've no issue with that if they believe they have a person best fitted to represent them.
However, the Mayor represents this Borough and its ideals, and is representative of our way of thinking, our values etc.  

I don't know whether that makes it poetic justice or not.
But it's a far better contribution to the debate than your continued inanity.
Eddie legge

Sour Grapes

Dave Rocke when considering for the best part of four years you accepted Cllr Mason as your deputy leader and when Hillman resigned he was appointed to the role of leader
What has the new Mayor done to annoy you more than your former deputy Mason?
Were they not both involved with the Blaenau Gwent Expenses? Scandal      
To say when talking about the new Mayor, Id be ashamed to be a member of a council that elected a person who has in the past been held to account for in effect defrauding the council and council tax payers  
Tell us why you were not ashamed to serve under Deputy Mason,  
 
Eddie Legge
Rocke

John Mason wasn't and isn't the Mayor.

Or don't you get it ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS your writing's improved again.
Eddie legge

Come off it Rocke

Dave Rocke I will not accept the lame excuse you gave about not being ashamed to serve along side Mason in council chamber because he was not Mayor
To pardon one and not another when both were involved with the expenses scandal
Is being downright dishonest
You stuck with Mason knowing what he had done because it suited you then; and now because you were not re-elected any thing goes
You are a bitter selfish has been      
No cheek is known to blush or heart to throb, Save when they a question or a job  

Eddie Legge
Rocke

Every time you fall for it don't you?

I encounter people every single day that have fallen foul of the law. I cannot avoid them even if I wanted to. Most of them I'm happy to interact with. They're 'everyday folk', in any other sense of the expression, who have done their bit of 'Saturday night fighting', enjoy a spliff or 10 or been caught being caught short and peeing in the wrong place at the wrong time.
They haven't been dishonest.

I encounter ones who have been thoroughly dishonest - thieves, burglars. I can't avoid them. I pay them a courtesy, because it's me and my manners that count, not their failings.

One thing I wouldn't do, however, is nominate them for public service. That sends the wrong message from me, that I'm prepared to sully the office I'm supporting them for and the respect the role deserves.

Look at the previous 4 Mayors we have had:

* a JP
* another JP, and MBE
* a longstanding councillor of impeccable standing
* a senior councillor of impeccable standing

And had it worked out differently this year's Mayor would have been someone of long service, impeccable standing and holder of the MBE for services to the community.

Instead we have someone with a record for false accounting and dishonestly obtaining money from the council and hence the taxpayers.
Councillors have to work with him, they cannot do anything other, just like I had to work with everyone.

But they didn't have to sully the position of Mayor, the Borough's No. 1 Citizen, by electing someone convicted of dishonesty whilst a councillor previously.        

And finally, which party did all these 'fallen' councillors belong to when they committed their crimes?

What's it like to go from sheep to sheepish?
Because that's how I'd feel if I was bringing replies such as this upon myself.
I wonder what the Mayor's thinking, having you keeping this in the spotlight?

And what are you going to feel like if he trips up and Dai Rocke's there waiting, and it becomes a very public debate?
Eddie legge

Sour sour Grapes

David Rocke was rejected by the voters of Cwmtillery not only did he fail to be re-elected to the borough council he was also unsuccessful in his attempt to gain a seat on the community council
When considering Rocke believed he would have been accepted on one or the other positions mentioned above, and when it didnít happen, himself and his band of supporters would rather believe it was because of the bad publicity surrounding the Tory Lib Dems coalition at Westminster    
Labour did give Cameron and Clegg a kick up the behind but why Rocke was kicked into touch, whatever the reasons will to all be denied
Who has been more active than Rocke on Abertillery Forum so full of self praise his chattering tongue never quiet, forever bragging and doing its best to discredit local labour and its leader  
Not a word to my knowledge on Forum from the successful labour candidateís who against all odds ended the dreams of Independents in Cwmtillery and Blaenau Gwent  
I believe ex Cllr Rockes pride has had a bashing and he has been left with a bout of sour grapes heaven help any one who disagrees with him today
What dose he hope to gain from bringing up scandal from many years ago,
Those involved with the Blaenau Gwent expenses scandal were punished for doing so
What about it Rocke when Labour lost to independents 2008 your so called valleys prat didnít vent his anger on your new independent deputy leader  
I shall end by saying It is unfortunate that politicians can grow more selfish as they become more powerful, Let us thank our lucky stars we have stopped Rocke in time  

Eddie not eddielies Legge
Eddie legge

Silence is golden

Are you listening Rocke










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Ian

I shall end by saying It is unfortunate that politicians can grow more selfish as they become more powerful


You said it all there didn't you,whoever it is that wrote this because in my opinion it ceratinly wasn't Eddie.I never 100% agreed with what Rocke had to say and have made that clear when neccessarry on here,but at least he said what he had to say under his own name.As a rule I don't have much time for politicians who are mostly self serving in my view,but can the one who writes these postings pretending to be someone else at least have the decency to stand up and be counted...........I'm not holding my breath though  Rolling Eyes
Rocke

Better to have been once, than never at all I say, and to leave behind a legacy that those who come thereafter will be expected to aspire to.

On the subject of legacies, a wonderful inscription on a headstone in St Pauls:

"He achieved neither fame nor riches,
More than this, he gained the respect of his fellow man".

Look all around you 'Eddie Legges'.
Listen to people.

And wonder, what have you ever inspired in people ?
Derision is something that comes to mind.
Someone whose sense of inadequacy is such that he allows his name to be used by others in the forlorn hope that it will make him out to be a wise elder.
Someone whose craving for publicity is such that he will put his name to anything put in front of him, who looks longingly at newspapers in the hope that his name appears yet again.

Someone whose main legacy will be a pile of newspaper cuttings ending with 'Eddie Legge, Blaina'.
And an epitaph that could well be 'He would have achieved fame and riches, if they weren't local papers who didn't pay for his letters.
And so he lost any respect from sensible people'.

There, that should give you all a few hours to debate what complete and arrant nonsense will be published in your name next.
Eddie legge

All my own

To Ian and Rocke Eddie bought a book from a second hand book shop
Many years ago some of the quotes alongside the one now in question
Politicians growing more selfish
Nothing worth having if itís only done for yourself, author not known
The road to heaven is well signposted, but it is badly light at night --- Not known
The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the buck or coming back with excuses ---- not known
Talk is by far the most accessible of pleasures, it is all profit it completes our education founds and fosters our friendship and can be enjoyed at any age and in almost any state of health, Robert Louis Stevenson.
Fast is fine but accuracy is everything Wyatt Earp †
Before you embark on a journey of revenge dig two graves, Confucius
The above a sample of but a few
And now from Abertillery Forum insinuating that Eddie Legge was a Valleys prat
Ex councillor Rocke
Spinless B,,,,,,s ex councillor Rocke about the Queen paying her respect to our Irish ancestors and neighbours who fought and died during 2nd world war
Let me know when Alun Davies comes to Abertillery ex councillor Rocke † †
Donít you think that labour politicians should do two terms one in office and the other in jail Carolyn?

Old age shall come to all in time
Better late than never
We dream of days gone by
When times we thought were better
Now the pleasures of youth has flown
The things we cherished most
In our hearts so carefully sown
Whatever the future brings
Let it be of love and pride
We have danced away the nights we shared
Alone on the mountain side
In the autumn of our days
The nights are cold and long
We wrap up warm and praise the lord
To keep us safe and strong
Eddie Legge
Ian

You aren't going to convince anyone by chucking in the odd posting full of rambling nonsense.............mostly because that's what comes out of politicians mouths anyway so you've given yourself away again. Laughing
Ian Jones

Eddie:
Admin have started a new page called Culture corner for any poem's and such to go on.
Don't you think you should show a little respect to the other members who have not said anything derogatory to you and post your poem's on there??
Rocke

Re: All my own

Eddie legge wrote:
To Ian and Rocke Eddie bought a book from a second hand book shop
Many years ago some of the quotes alongside the one now in question
Politicians growing more selfish
Nothing worth having if itís only done for yourself, author not known
The road to heaven is well signposted, but it is badly light at night --- Not known
The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the buck or coming back with excuses ---- not known
Talk is by far the most accessible of pleasures, it is all profit it completes our education founds and fosters our friendship and can be enjoyed at any age and in almost any state of health, Robert Louis Stevenson.
Fast is fine but accuracy is everything Wyatt Earp †
Before you embark on a journey of revenge dig two graves, Confucius
The above a sample of but a few
And now from Abertillery Forum insinuating that Eddie Legge was a Valleys prat
Ex councillor Rocke
Spinless B,,,,,,s ex councillor Rocke about the Queen paying her respect to our Irish ancestors and neighbours who fought and died during 2nd world war
Let me know when Alun Davies comes to Abertillery ex councillor Rocke † †
Donít you think that labour politicians should do two terms one in office and the other in jail Carolyn?

Old age shall come to all in time
Better late than never
We dream of days gone by
When times we thought were better
Now the pleasures of youth has flown
The things we cherished most
In our hearts so carefully sown
Whatever the future brings
Let it be of love and pride
We have danced away the nights we shared
Alone on the mountain side
In the autumn of our days
The nights are cold and long
We wrap up warm and praise the lord
To keep us safe and strong
Eddie Legge


Tetchy, tetchy Eddies.

I didn't insinuate you were a Valleys prat at all.
I said you were one..........

All for one and one for all and all that.

Oh - and now I'm not in public life, I'm not bound by Codes of Conduct.
Tell Alun I'm not Rhys Ifans.
And I'm not spineless either.

Oh - and I'm not 'Ian'.   Razz
martyn142

"Eddiie"

Have a look at what "you" wrote on this thread at 3.35pm on 08/06/2012. Compare it to what you wrote at 1.54pm on 10/06/2012.

It is very obvious that the second was written by you and the first wasn't.

Have a bit of pride Eddie and tell them if they want to say anything on here, to do it themselves and not take advantage of an old man.
Eddie legge

Let the truth be told

Wrong again Martyn both postings you question about were mine and mine alone believe what you like and to Rocke I say the same  
And to our ex councillor ask Carolyn about my letters to Gazette she has read most and made a favourable comment about them on Forum
I have been writing to Gazette these past 20 years Argus and Western Mail about 10 years I was writing to the rag when Rocke was in dadís bag
Martyn tell me if you can why would Rocke want to post on Abertillery Forum a reply to one of Eddie Legge letters in Western Mail the letter was from a person who did not agree with me
At the time we had never met or even been in contact with each other
A phone call Eddie you should read what Rocke has to say about you on Abertillery Forum and because of that I became a member
Two questions before I go why on Forum it is plain Rocke and when in Gazette Cllr Rocke  
And why was Rocke so pleased that he had more views and replies to his postings on Forum than did a valley prat,

Eddie Legge
martyn142

Re: Let the truth be told

Eddie legge wrote:
Martyn tell me if you can why would Rocke want to post on Abertillery Forum a reply to one of Eddie Legge letters in Western Mail the letter was from a person who did not agree with me

I'm afraid I can't tell you Eddie.

Rocke might I suppose since he apparently wrote the message you are referring to.
Carolyn

Eddie I have not read your letters in the Gwent Gazette or any other paper over the last few years years I don't buy newspapers since I am unable to read them due to a low vision problem. I read the papers online but the letters page does not appear online.  If someone has commented favourably to your letters on this forum I am sorry but it's not me
Rocke

Naughty naughty 'Eddie Legges', putting words into people's mouths.

Bin cort out agin hasn't 'one'?
Eddie legge

Truth above all

Carolyn you did say when making comment about my letters
on Forum I believe it was about the time yourself and Mills were making sick jokes about a disabled pensioner

You did say something like the following, I have past copies of Gwent Gazette and of the letters Eddie Legge has wrote, and You did make a favorable comment about them  
As for the blabber mouth of Cwmtillery get stuffed, Oh pardon me I had forgot he has already been  

Eddie Lgge
Carolyn

Edlie any past copies of the Gwent Gazette and any other newspaper I may have had over the last few years were shredded unread by me to use as cat litter.

I don't make sick jokes about disabled pensioners I am one so why would I?

If I did speak favourably about any of your letters if your are one and the the same person that wrote in the Gazette the last time I read it about 4 years ago and on this forum then my eye condition must be worse than I thought  Rolling Eyes
Rocke

Re: Truth above all

Eddie legge wrote:
Carolyn you did say when making comment about my letters
on Forum I believe it was about the time yourself and Mills were making sick jokes about a disabled pensioner

You did say something like the following, I have past copies of Gwent Gazette and of the letters Eddie Legge has wrote, and You did make a favorable comment about them †
As for the blabber mouth of Cwmtillery get stuffed, Oh pardon me I had forgot he has already been †

Eddie Lgge


Oops !
They're all getting tetchy now.

Question - how do you spell 'Independent' ?

a) the correct way; or
b) the Cllr Winnett way as per Notting Hill Nick's Facebook page?
Eddie legge

sick comments

Carolyn do you remember  about the coat that buttons  
up from behind and agreeing to a nice little mat For him to
struggle about on while trying to get up, with his grandchildren
watching and laughing
My grandchildren were very upset over it and Jessica did give you
a polite telling off
This is the very first time that you have used your own disability
in a reply to me You have my deepest sympathy,
You did compare the quality of my letters in Gwent Gazette to
the ones on Forum
You are another Carolyn, Who will defend Rocke to the end

Eddie Legge
Carolyn

I vaguely remember joking about some fruit cake who was posting unintelligible posts and poems in every section of the forum putting admin and moderators to a lot of trouble having to delete or move the rubbish. My apologies Edlie as I said I had never heard of you, I was not aware that you were a sick pensioner nor could I see your grandchildren watching...I don't possess a crystal ball and can only comment on what I do see...you were acting a tad peculiar at the time.

You should really read the posts before replying, I was defending myself against your misquotation in regard to my reading habits. Rocky does not need my defense and I know he has the intelligence to read and answer posts all by himself without the need to post attention seeking rubbish in every section of the forum
Ian Jones

Carolyn wrote:


You should really read the posts before replying,



That seems like sound advice to me Eddie!
I suppose you're thinking ohh here he goes again another one of the bunch, well Eddie there is no bunch Clique or what ever you think it is.
It is people giving their separate points of view to your ramblings and incorrect statements.
People have answered questions asked by you on this forum but never answer theirs, you always come back with another question.
You say you are not a politician prove it and mull over some of the questions you have been asked on here and then when you have found and "read" them, simply click Quote, edit out the irrelevant parts, then add your reply preferably in the form of an answer.
You think you are having fun doing what you do but all you are doing is making yourself look foolish and that remark is not meant to be an insult to you merely a point of view..

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