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Labour suffers big valley defeats
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martyn142



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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The more I think of it people 'round here haven't got too much to complain about. But it won't stop them complaining.


If you think the state of this area is cause to celebrate then it is a very good thing our forefathers (and mothers) weren't so easily pleased or we'd still be living in caves. Of course things have improved but then it could hardly have got any worse could it?

By the way does this mean you are going to stop complaining about your Tidy Trev box?
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jools



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree carolyn.

Also, regeneration has it's pitfalls. e.g. Landords move in forcing house prices up out of the reach of most people, and they aren't too fussy about the tenants they install either.

In my experience the big regeneration projects have pushed the day to day repairs required onto the back burner. Saying that I am glad that we have had money spent...I just feel that some of the priorities got forgotten in the excitment.
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Carolyn



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you posted this message on the wrong thread Jools?  I am a bit lost Confused
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Rocke



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: A Week's a Long Time in Politics Reply with quote

Well hello !

Thought I'd leave it a bit until I did my first post, to give you a chance to start things off and me a chance to give you a reasonable update on events.

A few things:

Out of pocket expenses:    
I haven't said I'm working for out of pocket expenses.
If I give up my Member's Allowance that just gets dumped into a black hole - and no-one benefits.
What I'm going to do is draw it and whatever excess there is over and above recompensing me for lost wages etc. will be spread through the ward - donations to organisations, fetes etc.
In short Cwmtillery Ward will be having its money redistributed.
When my expenses etc. are published I'll give you a full account of the amounts I've reinvested. ( This is over and above the normal Councillor donations, which are a sham because it just makes your local councillor look good distributing money you've already been charged ).

Independence:  
I was invited to and attended an Independents group meeting earlier this week, to test the water.
I declined a position I was offered.
I agree with the poster(s) that to be truly independent you cannot be part of a group.
However, that doesn't stop you agreeing with group aims and objectives and if the commonality is strong enough it's probably natural to become part.
In my case I don't think that there is enough to form a strong bond - and that's no doubt down to me, rather than some of the very impressive other people who were at that meeting.
As I've said I'll never be a politician ( which perhaps makes me a very good one ! ).

Contact Details:
I'm in the process of getting another Mobile, one which will be dedicated to Council business.
My current one is so heavily used for work that it would be a nightmare for me to try to manage my workload.
That of course wouldn't help contact Tidy over a Bank Holiday.
I've not yet got my pass, let alone the keys to the Council Depot !

Future Chats:
I'll be looking on here a few times a week but will reply only once.
It's pointless me replying to individual posts, far better to bundle everything up.

Finally, thanks for your support - especially those who express their belief that I'll do what I say.
Although no man is an island, some are rockes, and even those need a firm base to remain solid.
The people of this entire area are mine.

Cheers people.
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somersetsam



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swallowed a dictionary?
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

somersetsam wrote:
swallowed a dictionary?


Yes the last thing we want is any intelligent people running our council isn't it?
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martyn142



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way nice to hear from you Rockey and good luck.
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somersetsam



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: dictionary swallowing Reply with quote

this comment was aimed at morris minor not coun rockey Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: dictionary swallowing Reply with quote

somersetsam wrote:
this comment was aimed at morris minor not coun rockey Embarassed


Then please accept my apologies.  Embarassed
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Carolyn



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to hear from you Rocky, congratulations and good luck
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="martyn142"][quote="somersetsam"]The more I think of it people 'round here haven't got too much to complain about. But it won't stop them complaining.[/quote]

If you think the state of this area is cause to celebrate then it is a very good thing our forefathers (and mothers) weren't so easily pleased or we'd still be living in caves. Of course things have improved but then it could hardly have got any worse could it?

By the way does this mean you are going to stop complaining about your Tidy Trev box?[/quote]
On the subject of our forefathers I seem to recall as a child coal tips and an orange river, the price we paid for jobs as well as the many lives lost. The trains stopped running when I was a toddler, but they're back now. I dont think our forefathers would have voted strong trade unionists like Royston Welsh and James McELLwey off the council because they knew which side their bread was buttered.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carolyn - sorry I was replying to Martyn's post above mine, and to someone elses on the previous page who mentioned regeneration and things not being so bad at the moment.

Put my confusion down to a thick head from a summer cold I have had this week!!
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So are you Somersetsam or Tchambuli9 or just a split personality (perhaps two very closely linked ones)  Wink?

Someone who's more than a little peeved that the electorate didn't put them or their butties into power and likes to "banter" with their own alter-egos on site to make out they really are different people.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Mr. Green person they are Union men and my answer was more to Martyn & his leftist sympathies than to anyone else.
However, there were some Labour losses that I am a little tongue in cheek about, especially those who do not believe in the minimum wage.
I won't condemn a person for their politics as they are bound to vote for the Party which suits them best. It is a matter of survival.
I have known many a Tory who were decent enough folk and would probably try and save your life if you fell into the river. Thinking about it most of them have been people in business. People employing a workforce. But I haven't met one yet who liked "the minimum wage" or any other policy introduced to improve the working mans/womans life, because it puts more financial pressure on them.

Yes Jools Landlords have moved into the area (big time) & forced the house prices up but the need for private rental only exists because Thatcher destroyed " social housing" by selling off council houses.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I won't condemn a person for their politics as they are bound to vote for the Party which suits them best. It is a matter of survival.


Tchambuli9 appears to be already oppressive with her sexist, fastidious agendas, they will perhaps be the ultimate exterminator of our human species


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I have known many a Tory who were decent enough folk and would probably try and save your life if you fell into the river.


Wish I could say the same for a number of Labourites, altruism is a word not found in their vocabulary this last few years.


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Yes Jools Landlords have moved into the area (big time) & forced the house prices up but the need for private rental only exists because Thatcher destroyed " social housing" by selling off council houses.


Local Labour did nothing in the way of improving social housing only adding to the misery of tenants by not doing the repairs/refurbishment and modernization many required. Many other council owned properties were sold to housing associations. Miners made redundant after the closure of the mines bought up their properties with their redundancy payout's.  If they had not no doubt many would be living in squalor now.

The need for private rental is due to the fact that housing associations moved out. BGCBC has made no commitment themselves towards replacing any shortfall in social housing during the last 20 years
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