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Carolyn



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bellyaching !! What a turn of phrase for a servant of the public to use. Literary genius you are not I see Hedley. I am happy with my chosen reperentatives, Rome was not built in a day and after clearing out all the deadwood it will take a long time to repair the damage of many years of neglect by yourself and your chronies if at all possible I feel the damage is now done.

Quit bleeting everytime someone poses a question you are obviously unable to answer ....or are you after the sympathy vote


Who do you count as my cronies? surely Nigel Daniels must be one and he's someone you are satisfied with. Den Hughes must be another, what about John Hopkins he was leader of the pack of my cronies for almost a decade. You write such arrant nonsense, it seems as if as soon as someone does the Judas bit they're OK with you. Six members of the current Executive are the sort of people you are calling deadwood, deadbeat more like. As I say you speak with forked tongue.



You presume far too much and know nothing. I believe you are subject to a good number of flights of fancy.

I did say my chosen representatives I suggest you go back and read again. Since when did John Hopkins represent my ward.


Judus !!!!! Pot calling the kettle black here arn't we they appear to be okay with you too. I am just one of the electorate not member of any such political party or group, and never have been. I am not sleeping with the enemy.  What about the ones hiding in the wings, chameleons now there's a forked tongue for you far worse than any Judas, you just never know which side theyre on



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twaddle
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hedley,

That's one hell of a reply from someone in your position, excuse the pun, but I think you've gone off the rails a bit !!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Ebbw Vale rail link ! Reply with quote

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So,  after many years of planning, being let down and finally achieving a rail link to the Capital, the powers that be ( RICS ) now decide that the rail link  is worthy of the " Welsh Project of the year Award " !!!
18 miles of track being upgraded, 6 stations built, extensive landscaping to mention but a few, yet they forget that if you live in Abertillery or " Significant Other towns, you have to make your own way there because they have taken away the free transport to and from them, how are older people or people on lower incomes supposed to manage this ?
Perhaps they'll spend the next decade or so planning their next jolly just after the opening of the link to Newport " City " station ! [/b]


Clem I agree the whole thread has gone off the rails, you began by making a serious point, but that was quickly derailed. As soon as one of the cronies give the signal that the debate is not taking the desired route the thread is shunted into the buffers.
I got sidetracked when one of the guards suggested I favoured Ebbw Vale over my own ward and I'm afraid I saw red.
I have discussed the need for a link to Abertillery over and over again, but if there is any sign of any light at the end of the tunnel they suddenly change trains for Twaddle. If you want to discuss the matter sensibly give me a ring on 214371.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most apt example of a collective 'Judas' ? - the Labour Party.

Better a true working class enemy than a false friend.

And let's be frank, The Party has tried to ride rough shod over local opinion for years. 'hedleymccarthy' epitomises all that is wrong with The Party.

Patronising, sneering, the politics of the picket line.
Incoherent, inconsistent and uncohesive opposition.

As he sows so shall anyone and any party associated with him weep.
In 3 years time hopefully we'll all be weeping - tears of joy that this self-serving hijacker of the public conscience and any acolytes he has left get despatched to the political wasteland.

And what a timetable:

This year - failure to become The Party's selection for AM
Next year - ridiculed on the streets when attempting to show how brave 'le resistance' is in helping Agent 3rd Para Smith.
2011 - does a wonderful job of scuppering Labour's AM campaign with their unrepentent and holier-than-thou attitude.
2012 - told to bu&&er off at the ballot box.

I look forward with relish.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Ebbw Vale rail link ! Reply with quote

hedleymccarthy wrote:
clem wrote:
So,  after many years of planning, being let down and finally achieving a rail link to the Capital, the powers that be ( RICS ) now decide that the rail link  is worthy of the " Welsh Project of the year Award " !!!
18 miles of track being upgraded, 6 stations built, extensive landscaping to mention but a few, yet they forget that if you live in Abertillery or " Significant Other towns, you have to make your own way there because they have taken away the free transport to and from them, how are older people or people on lower incomes supposed to manage this ?
Perhaps they'll spend the next decade or so planning their next jolly just after the opening of the link to Newport " City " station ! [/b]


Clem I agree the whole thread has gone off the rails, you began by making a serious point, but that was quickly derailed. As soon as one of the cronies give the signal that the debate is not taking the desired route the thread is shunted into the buffers.
I got sidetracked when one of the guards suggested I favoured Ebbw Vale over my own ward and I'm afraid I saw red.
I have discussed the need for a link to Abertillery over and over again, but if there is any sign of any light at the end of the tunnel they suddenly change trains for Twaddle. If you want to discuss the matter sensibly give me a ring on 214371.


Might as well express my opinion then.

You're still the one with ideas way above their station.
You also thought that this forum would give you another platform from which to rail against the decent people of the general public.
Now you call your sleepers into action to bombard the local media, purporting to be ordinary members of the public.
The only feeling you've stoked up is one of antipathy to The Party.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hedley,

When you stop talking in riddles and actually put a few sentences together that are worthy of this forum, then perhaps it'll be worth talking to you, until then, thanks, but no thanks !!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saeson wrote:
Rocke wrote:

Apparently 'the Council would like to see an Aberbeeg-Abertillery rail link'.



Funnily enough, so would I. Spooky or what?  Rolling Eyes


well is Aber getting a line or not ? Never mind all the toing and froing. What about the line  Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I would say is don't hold your breath. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Blodwen and welcome.

In the short-to-medium term, no we aren't  Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you for the welcome.
if the council would like to see a line for Aber, why don't they just get on with it ?  Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blodwend wrote:
Saeson wrote:
Rocke wrote:

Apparently 'the Council would like to see an Aberbeeg-Abertillery rail link'.



Funnily enough, so would I. Spooky or what?  Rolling Eyes


well is Aber getting a line or not ? Never mind all the toing and froing. What about the line  Confused


Hi Blodwend.

It's not in Network Rail's current published plans, which run up until 2020.
In 2010 they'll be issuing plans for the next 5-year period, up to 2025.
It's their habit to produce plans covering a 15-year period every 5 years.

Either someone didn't do their homework or decided to spare us the not-so-good news over the past 5 years at least.

Our ( Labour-dominated ) Community Council clearly didn't know.
They sent the letter to The Gazette asking where it was. It was that letter that set me digging about.
Took all of 30 mins on The Net, including double-checking the info.

The previous administration didn't exactly fall over themselves to support the Ebbw Vach Trail Group's attempts to provide a cycle path/walkway along the route either, given that it's as near a dead cert as you can get that there won't be any rail construction work going on in that part of our valley for at least 10 years.

HOWEVER - and I must emphasise this - the fact that this Executive has indicated support for that group and its efforts doesn't mean the current administration has given up.
The Minutes of a recent Executive that gave the go ahead for support for EVTG specifically states that there is a critical caveat in that if and when Network Rail publish plans for a rail link any route put in will have to be re-routed in order not to compromise the track.
Periodically I'll be having aword with those in charge to enquire as to what further actions/requests/lobbying etc. have been at Network, WAG etc. in order to get our mile or so of brand spanking new track, like what the Victoria - EV one will be.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebbw Fach not Ebbw Vach.  Surprised
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops !

Sorry. You'll notice it's not a habit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blodwend wrote:
thank you for the welcome.
if the council would like to see a line for Aber, why don't they just get on with it ?  Confused


Dear Blodwend, the sad reality is that when Rhodri Morgan made his big statement about the regeneration of Ebbw Vale after the steelworks closed it was always going to fall short of the grand plan. Costs always (deliberately?) spiral from original estimates. It was obvious something was up when things started to go quiet. So...no 1/2 hourly train service, no double track from Risca to Aberbeeg, and most definitely no line to Abertillery - a town whose citizens have been well and truly stiffed on this one.

A question for a BG councillor (ooh, wonder which one will take the trouble to respond  Rolling Eyes ). Does Stagecoach receive a subsidy (from WAG, BGCGC)? If they do, can`t whoever pays it make them adjust the timetable so that the hourly evening bus to Brynmawr doesn`t leave Llanhilleth about two minutes before the train arrives? Just wondered.


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