Not at all, I didn't post the thread I only took the trouble to explain it
Are you sure about that ?
We can't be - and that is for sure.
Anyway, since the wooden spoonists are out again let me explain.
First ( at the risk of being pedantic but I'll explain why ) it's an extention of the existing line. Therefore the line will be TO Brynmawr.
The reason I say it like that ( as it is, no nonsense ) is because it's a tourism-inspired initiative arising out of the World Heritage nature of Blaenavon.
It's not public transport in the Aberbeeg - Abertillery sense of the word.There was a report to a previous Regen committee ( last but 2 I think ).
I'll dig it out and put a link in, probably tomorrow evening.
It's also not a case of BG canvassing for it. The council was approached because the railway would be coming onto the Borough's area.
As such this isn't a case of the Council putting one part of the Borough before another.
btw Bob Wellington already has a reasonable rail network in his Borough.
Strange how 'their' Labour council could do it and the many administrations of ours couldn't. _________________ Rocke
Not at all, I didn't post the thread I only took the trouble to explain it
Are you sure about that ?
We can't be - and that is for sure.
Anyway, since the wooden spoonists are out again let me explain.
First ( at the risk of being pedantic but I'll explain why ) it's an extention of the existing line. Therefore the line will be TO Brynmawr.
The reason I say it like that ( as it is, no nonsense ) is because it's a tourism-inspired initiative arising out of the World Heritage nature of Blaenavon.
It's not public transport in the Aberbeeg - Abertillery sense of the word.There was a report to a previous Regen committee ( last but 2 I think ).
I'll dig it out and put a link in, probably tomorrow evening.
It's also not a case of BG canvassing for it. The council was approached because the railway would be coming onto the Borough's area.
As such this isn't a case of the Council putting one part of the Borough before another.
btw Bob Wellington already has a reasonable rail network in his Borough.
Strange how 'their' Labour council could do it and the many administrations of ours couldn't.
That reasonable rail network you so foolishly describe was not removed by your Tory (you never had it so good) Government. And we're all aware that B.G. isn't able to canvass for anything anymore.
Prove me wrong David Frock GET IT FOR US- BIG SHOT.
The Llan bus link was not removed by them either. Your truth is simply a distortion of the real truth _________________ Everyone is gifted but some just never open their package
Not at all, I didn't post the thread I only took the trouble to explain it
Are you sure about that ?
We can't be - and that is for sure.
Anyway, since the wooden spoonists are out again let me explain.
First ( at the risk of being pedantic but I'll explain why ) it's an extention of the existing line. Therefore the line will be TO Brynmawr.
The reason I say it like that ( as it is, no nonsense ) is because it's a tourism-inspired initiative arising out of the World Heritage nature of Blaenavon.
It's not public transport in the Aberbeeg - Abertillery sense of the word.There was a report to a previous Regen committee ( last but 2 I think ).
I'll dig it out and put a link in, probably tomorrow evening.
It's also not a case of BG canvassing for it. The council was approached because the railway would be coming onto the Borough's area.
As such this isn't a case of the Council putting one part of the Borough before another.
btw Bob Wellington already has a reasonable rail network in his Borough.
Strange how 'their' Labour council could do it and the many administrations of ours couldn't.
I haven`t been fortunate enough to read this mysterious document, but judging by this thread I`d guess we`re talking about an extension of the heritage railway at Blaenavon. It would be quite feasible - but by no means cheap - to relay the line to Brynmawr, but going south you`d soon run into the the hard fact that the trackbed has been built over. It will unfortunately remain a landlocked tourist railway, though that`s not say that we won`t be better off for having it.
Don't think anyone has seen this document, I wonder if I were to summarize Tchambuli's uneducated reinterpretations of the said document I'd need only one word: incomprehensible.
It is evident that as our community continues to unravel, more and more people will be grasping for straws, grasping for something to hold onto, grasping for something that promises to give them the sense of security and certainty that they so desperately need. These are the sorts of people Tchambuli and her ilk prey upon.
Regardless of what Tchambuli seems to assert, her self-fulfilling prophecies have proven to be a complete disaster in both theory and practice. Let me offer some free advice to her expositors: Stop challenging all we stand for! I myself don't see how she can build a workable policy around wishful thinking draped over a morass of confusion (and also, as we now see, historical illiteracy), then impose it willy-nilly on a population by force. _________________ 'Unqualified Jedi Knight'. Are Dildo Baginses Hobbit Forming? Is Muffing the Mule a Crime? Makers of Flabbers to be Ghasted!
If it doesn't work then got to www.blaenau-gwent.gov.uk, click 'Council & Democracy, on the left-hand side, then Council Documents.
On the upper-right click Council Minutes and Agendas ( then click it again on the next page ! ).
Select 'Executive Commitee' and go to the Agenda for May 13th.
You'll see a link to the document.
Once you've clicked that Appendix 2 is the 22-page document giving the history and proposed future.
phew..........!
(btw it's a PDF, so you'll need Adobe Reader on your PC.
If you haven't got it click this link http://www.adobe.com/products/reader ) _________________ Rocke
That reasonable rail network you so foolishly describe was not removed by your Tory (you never had it so good) Government. And we're all aware that B.G. isn't able to canvass for anything anymore.
Prove me wrong David Frock GET IT FOR US- BIG SHOT.
As I said, Hell hath no fury............
However, you've no teeth, and soon you'll have no insight into government either.
And as for the Tory jibe ?
Better a true enemy than the false friends the great and the good of the Labour Party around here have proved to be.
( Yes, there are an awful lot of decent 'you and me's who are members but The Party's reputation is solely down to the public image portrayed by it publicity hungry hoi polloi ).
Let me remind our readers:
'hedleymccarthy' ( who constantly maintains on here that it is the Cllr. Hedley McCarthy ), stated that he and Royston Welch agreed with Grandpa that Ebbw Vale could have TWO stations and a link to Newport before we had anything.
He's got more chance of getting re-elected in Ebbw Vale than this valley I can tell you.
And big shots like me are almost always looked upon with far more respect that those that take cheap shots.
Talking of which - have you ever been in the Civic Car ? _________________ Rocke
At tad off topic but you can appreciate all that is wrong with BGCBC web site and why so few people use it any longer. Why the Adobe reader format?.... if may well be a recognised universal format online and looks more proffessional but of no use on a public council site if it is not user friendly. Take a look at the regeneration plans they are printed sideways gives you a stiff neck trying to read it.
It is of no use at all to the average or occasional IT user these days who only use the pc for e mail, information, shopping and browsing the web,many of whom may not have updated their pc not being interested in gaming or other hobbies requiring a higher spec. It would not surprise me if they have to download a pdf document for details on how and where to obtain basic IT lessons for the terrified, if they weren't before they certainly will be after visiting this site.
The colour format is also poor for the visually impaired, a plain white background glares much better a natural or mottled one and grey print yep now that sure stands out a mile Maybe they should consult with the R.N.I.B. a little bit of local market research would not have gone amiss. I wonder how many of the local councillors use it, how about local labour and it's it's members appear to be unable to post links to it, are they fully up to date with todays tecnological advances _________________ Everyone is gifted but some just never open their package
I'm amazed that someone who has been democratically elected should make crass ageist comments, it is offensive to a large number of Blaenau Gwent residents. I wouldn't dream of calling the Council Executive Committee Dad's Army I have more respect for the elderly than that _________________ This is my truth. Now tell me yours.
[quote="Rocke"]
The reason I say it like that ( as it is, no nonsense ) is because it's a tourism-inspired initiative arising out of the World Heritage nature of Blaenavon.
It's not public transport in the Aberbeeg - Abertillery sense of the word.There was a report to a previous Regen committee ( last but 2 I think ).
Using this same rationale would not the link to the General Offices which as Leighton Andrews and I announced in April 2007 will become a Genealogy centre attracting approx. 100,000 visitors a year, fall into the same category. Incidentally my biggest supporter in securing this initiative was Bob Wellington who believed it would compliment the World Heritage site and vice versa. _________________ This is my truth. Now tell me yours.
I think you have mistaken me for a care bear. I'm a couldn't give a toss bear. Sorry for the confusion!
Abertillery people are not at all amused that a railway line has been proposed between Brynmawr & Pontypool. And the document I showed you was dated May 2009.
The present administration obviously couldn't give a toss either Good old Bob Wellington. LABOUR OF COURSE.
If it is not public transport then firstly why should it have been any interest to me in particular? Secondly can you explain why the people of Abertillery are so opposed to the idea? Thirdly why on earth would the present administration be concerned re a tourism inspired initiative I would have thought they would welcome it.
You don't suppose the local wooden spoon brigade is stiring things up unecessarily again and spinning yet another untruthful yarn _________________ My life is no rehearsal There'll be no curtain call encore, so I've thrown my screwed up script away to ad lib my life once more!
I think you have mistaken me for a care bear. I'm a couldn't give a toss bear. Sorry for the confusion!
Abertillery people are not at all amused that a railway line has been proposed between Brynmawr & Pontypool. And the document I showed you was dated May 2009.
The present administration obviously couldn't give a toss either Good old Bob Wellington. LABOUR OF COURSE.
If it is not public transport then firstly why should it have been any interest to me in particular? Secondly can you explain why the people of Abertillery are so opposed to the idea? Thirdly why on earth would the present administration be concerned re a tourism inspired initiative I would have thought they would welcome it.
You don't suppose the local wooden spoon brigade is stiring things up unecessarily again and spinning yet another untruthful yarn
Oh dear this is very wearing. Page 5 of 22 Draft 3 01.05.2009. para.4.
Quote:- The overall plan for an extended railway sees it's early future as a so called Heritage Railway, and as an important player in the tourism product in Torfaen, Monmouthshire and Blaenau Gwent, however, extension brings with it the opportunity both to serve as a community railway and possibly even as a commercial carrier.
Put your glasses on Bryn whoops sorry Carolyn you might see a little further than your nez. It's the line that's important . Once the line is there the possibilities are endless.
When the line was re-opened from Cardiff to Ebbw Vale the possibilities were endless but as usual we in Abertillery were fed a load of bull by a labour led council. Do you really believe this will ever be viable as a commercial carrier and at what cost? If it ever does materialise as a commercial line then at least it will be in a good location with good regular transport links to the heads of the valley and other towns, access to shops, cafe's and restuarants rather than a no go anywhere area like Llan or Aberbeeg even.
As a Heritage Railway maybe it will provide employment opportunities for local people, both in the construction and running. I think it would be welcomed by the whole of Blaenau Gwent. _________________ My life is no rehearsal There'll be no curtain call encore, so I've thrown my screwed up script away to ad lib my life once more!
When the line was re-opened from Cardiff to Ebbw Vale the possibilities were endless but as usual we in Abertillery were fed a load of bull by a labour led council. Do you really believe this will ever be viable as a commercial carrier and at what cost? If it ever does materialise as a commercial line then at least it will be in a good location with good regular transport links to the heads of the valley and other towns, access to shops, cafe's and restuarants rather than a no go anywhere area like Llan or Aberbeeg even.
As a Heritage Railway maybe it will provide employment opportunities for local people, both in the construction and running. I think it would be welcomed by the whole of Blaenau Gwent.
You' ve got a new Independent / God knows who Council now Carolyn and you have done for the past year or so. Stop fighting the last election and stop sycophanting those who are letting us down. What sort of con man puts himself up as an independent knowing he's got nowhere to go for anything, and can do nothing for the people he represents. The money's handy though.
Why are you giving me your complaints? Put your ear trumpet in,
"LABOUR'S NOT IN CONTROL LOVE . YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER COUNCIL NOW" OOOH I'VE GORRA GET A LITTLE 'AND PUT ON THIS WATCH.
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That reasonable rail network you so foolishly describe was 
Maybe they should consult with the R.N.I.B. a little bit of local market research would not have gone amiss. I wonder how many of the local councillors use it, how about local labour and it's it's members appear to be unable to post links to it, are they fully up to date with todays tecnological advances
