One, you asked, have you forgotten who started this thread already, your mind is wandering, it's no surprise you are very concerned about the impounding service for stray sheep in the borough you'll have nowhere to go every time you have a senior moment.
Two, I am not the one complaining, you are. I don't need a ear trumpet I heard the celebration cheering each and every year that Labour lost control since 2005. _________________ My life is no rehearsal There'll be no curtain call encore, so I've thrown my screwed up script away to ad lib my life once more!
At tad off topic but you can appreciate all that is wrong with BGCBC web site and why so few people use it any longer. Why the Adobe reader format?.... if may well be a recognised universal format online and looks more proffessional but of no use on a public council site if it is not user friendly. Take a look at the regeneration plans they are printed sideways gives you a stiff neck trying to read it.
It is of no use at all to the average or occasional IT user these days who only use the pc for e mail, information, shopping and browsing the web,many of whom may not have updated their pc not being interested in gaming or other hobbies requiring a higher spec. It would not surprise me if they have to download a pdf document for details on how and where to obtain basic IT lessons for the terrified, if they weren't before they certainly will be after visiting this site.
The colour format is also poor for the visually impaired, a plain white background glares much better a natural or mottled one and grey print yep now that sure stands out a mile Maybe they should consult with the R.N.I.B. a little bit of local market research would not have gone amiss. I wonder how many of the local councillors use it, how about local labour and it's it's members appear to be unable to post links to it, are they fully up to date with todays tecnological advances
Absolutely right and hopefully a very good bit of feedback that I can take to those who can Bryn.
I have to say I'm not impressed with the site at all but I can't look at it from anything other than a professional viewpoint and it might have been that general users were OK with it.
Now you've pointed out that they aren't I'll have a word.
Thanks for making the point. _________________ Rocke
The reason I say it like that ( as it is, no nonsense ) is because it's a tourism-inspired initiative arising out of the World Heritage nature of Blaenavon.
It's not public transport in the Aberbeeg - Abertillery sense of the word.There was a report to a previous Regen committee ( last but 2 I think ).
Using this same rationale would not the link to the General Offices which as Leighton Andrews and I announced in April 2007 will become a Genealogy centre attracting approx. 100,000 visitors a year, fall into the same category. Incidentally my biggest supporter in securing this initiative was Bob Wellington who believed it would compliment the World Heritage site and vice versa.
You will keep misleading the public won't you ?
You had every opportunity to tell us that Victoria-EV was for that purpose but you didn't.
You didn't because you've been caught out yet again and this latest attempt at damage limitation is to (yet again) latch on to some of my comments ( don't you hate playing catch-up ?? ) and make out that you have the same mind-set and vision.
What you should have said ( far too late now, I've got there before you again ) is that the link could be justified because it will:
1) Make it easier for those who go to Ysbyty Aneurin Bevan;
2) Make it easier for the students who will attend the Learning Campus;
3) Finish the promise that was made to the people of EV regarding them ( NOT one of the suburbs ) having a direct rail link.
But no.
You never said it because you never dreamt it.
You - since your alter ego has been merrily taking the credit for the whole thing - have presided over a political mess.
To me - and I've no doubt the vast majority of the general public - a rail link from Ebbw Vale to Cardiff means one can get on a train in the centre of Cardiff and get off in the centre of Ebbw Vale.
As far as I know only Ryanair goes to a destination that isn't actually closest to where the flight's advertised.
You seem to have invented McCarthyRail.
I know how doomed the originally-envisaged link was from the start. And why.
It's strange but it's almost exactly the same principle as the issues with the Foundry Bridge.
And I'm beginning to think it's exactly the same flaw that's made an almost permanent mess of our town for the past few years.
Anyway, back to business.
Answer this ( I know, fat chance but still, the public have a right to know ) - does your mate Cllr. Hedley McCarthy have any idea why the rail link never went where it was originally intended ie. into the centre of Ebbw Vale ?
Is he aware of any budgetary shortcomings or any financial shortfalls ?
We already know ( from your pronouncements ) that Cllr. McCarthy knew in the latter half of 2007 that there would be a need to extend the line ( I ask you, extend a line - to where it was originally intended to go ! ).
I think we all realise that it was some time before that someone knew it wasn't going to happen.
From a political point ( yes, I'm the one teaching you a few tricks now my friend ) you would be better off simply ignoring this.
You see, I've already ripped away the excuses that you could have made, ones which would have made it at least reasonable and reduced considerably the damage that's been caused by this.
Also, every time you rise to my bait you hook yourself further.
Even when I tell you what I'm doing you still have the arrogance and highly misplaced confidence in yourself to try to fool the public, all in the pretext of 'this is what politics is about'.
On the political front there is however, the alternate view.
You should start answering questions, other wise people will think:
1) you've something to hide; and/or
2) you don't know the answer; and/or
3) there isn't really an answer, because the question is based on something you've made up.
Look, listen and learn, and ensure that your alter ego mate does, otherwise forget even getting an interview for taking on the people's choice.
( Are you watching, HQ ? ) _________________ Rocke
Have the guts to stand under your true political convictions.
Your manifesto was a deliberate con. Cometh The Man should have read Cometh the Tory. Disgraceful.
Thankyou for proving my point....vote Independent.......you don't know what you're going to get.
Have the guts to stand under your true political convictions.
Your manifesto was a deliberate con. Cometh The Man should have read Cometh the Tory. Disgraceful.
Thankyou for proving my point....vote Independent.......you don't know what you're going to get.
Dillusions.
(Note the absence of 'grandeur' ?).
Or should it read 'diluded' ?
Anyway, you're far, far behind the times.
Your mate 'hedleymccarthy' tried the smear tactic a long time ago, and all it served to do was show them for what they are - void of policies and/or the ability to present them to the public.
People who instead of proving themselves and their policies as better than others decide instead to make out that their opponents are worse than they are.
Bad political move that.
You see, all it does is show negativity. And of course when you've actually been in power there'll always be the comparisons to make.
This administration's on a winner from Day 1. After all, could it really mess up Aber more than has already been done ?
Look at what your Labour High Command's negative policy has gotten The Party:
1) Foundry Bridge needs to be done by Christmas - found out.
Cllr Hedley McCarthy ( he of the 200-name petition, who then embarked on getting up another when it was pointed out to him that 200 out of the 3,000 or so voters in Abertillery ward alone hardly constituted public demand ) gets his publicity - sorry gets himself in the papers campaigning for the completion of the bridge, only for yours truly to point out that he was at meetings where it was stated that it would be done - by the time he was advocating in the press.
Well, no-one ( apart from the sheep ) have given him the credit he tried to grab. Disingenuous is how one person described it to me.
2) Abertillery Labour Council ( yes, although there are non-Labour community councillors the council's Labour-led ) stir things up about the rail link.
Lo and behold, we end up with the confession from 'hedleymccarthy' that he ( along with Royston Welch and Rhodri Morgan ) knew it wouldn't happen until EV had not only its 2nd station but also a link to Newport.
You don't have to be a railway engineer to realise that those two pieces of work alone would take at least 10 years - and so it is ( well, 11 anyway ).
3) Nantyglo Comp.
Interestingly, there hasn't been the political furore that there should have been with this.
True, the parents are ( understandably ) up in arms but there's not been many political pronouincements from you and yours on here has there ?
I wonder if our readers and the public at large are wondering why ?
I know why - and do you want to push the button that'll send me telling it as it is, and launch what might be the final nuke into the local hed of a party that been proved to have been a wholly false friend to the decent people around here.
In fact, it's not a nuke that's required, sorry, since that would cause collateral damage to the decent, upright people who stand true to The Party in the hope that one day someone might decapitate their machine and they can go back to fighting for the future of this and every similar society around here, not simply being used as fodder to push leaflets through doors on behalf of those self-serving ideologogues who think it their right to fight a class war against an enemy that they have concocted themselves.
There, now I've wound you up so much that you'll lose control and will - sooner rather than later I suspect - do something that I'll use to discredit you further.
Just remember - Church St. and most of Abertillery Town Centre is covered by CCTV.
_________________ Rocke
I'm amazed that someone who has been democratically elected should make crass ageist comments, it is offensive to a large number of Blaenau Gwent residents. I wouldn't dream of calling the Council Executive Committee Dad's Army I have more respect for the elderly than that
_________________ This is my truth. Now tell me yours.
You' ve got a new Independent / God knows who Council now Carolyn and you have done for the past year or so. Stop fighting the last election and stop sycophanting those who are letting us down. What sort of con man puts himself up as an independent knowing he's got nowhere to go for anything, and can do nothing for the people he represents. The money's handy though.
Why are you giving me your complaints? Put your ear trumpet in,
"LABOUR'S NOT IN CONTROL LOVE . YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER COUNCIL NOW" OOOH I'VE GORRA GET A LITTLE 'AND PUT ON THIS WATCH.
Aye - and they'll need to be kept out of things for about 10 years if the things that keep coming up when I dig are anything to go by.
We're now trying to sort out the sins and omissions of the past.
It's not going to be easy and in fact I'd say that there's an enormous poisoned chalice here.
It would have been interesting to see what would have happened had there not been a change of power because very soon the time would have arrived when it would have been emergency action.
People forget - or did they ever realise - that this council went close to the wire regarding Social Services.
Blindly walking to oblivion it looked like.
How many Primary schools had to be closed and rationalised at relatively short notice ?
Note - a LABOUR-controlled Council closed - how many schools was it ?
Now, as we uncover yet more instances of lack of vision, foresight and dare I say policitcal will in the run-up to last year's elections we find that there is a pressing need to sort out other things that a LABOUR-controlled Council failed to adequately address.
Had they have done it we wouldn't have been sold down the river to Llanhilleth to get on a train.
Nantyglo parents would have been through this catharsis 4 or 5 years ago and more importantly there could have been a more phased transition.
Had our councillors had more vision it would have been obvious that ASDA going to Brynmawr, coupled with all the other applications the Council would have been in possession of, would have caused a possible ripple effect upon our town.
Abertillery should have had an alternative ready. But no, nothing.
Indoor Bowls Centre.
Great initiative, in fact an excellent solution - short term.
But no - let's just leave it now and assume that the Indoor Bowls Club will keep it ticking along nicely.
Yep - the old Leisure Centre was 'condemned' ( hence a new one was funded and built ) but no thought went into the medium-to-long term.
And guess who got lumbered with trying to sort that one out ?
And if anyone thinks that no-one could have done anything for this area then just look at what Communities First have done for the area.
Blessed with 4 things, these organisations and their workforces:
** Vision;
** Drive;
** Brains; and
** Community, not Party, spirit.
No wonder they aren't looked favourably on by some local 'politicians' ( I know, they haven't a clue about successful politics, which is conning people that you and The Party are really the best for the job. This local rabble simply highlight to us all what they can't do, haven't done or simply haven't had the bottle to do. The so-called politics of popularity. And if you can't be popular then make sure you're less hated than your opponents ).
I once worked in the same offices as someone who almost never took holidays - well 2-week breaks etc.
Apparently one year he did so ( I'd left by then ) and the person who stood in for him unearthed something momentous.
He'd been defrauding the council for years, moving money into his own bank account that he'd specially set up.
I'm not aware of any financial impropriety but I can categorically state after being part of taking over the reins that I believe Abertillery and its citizens have been spiritually defrauded of the investment this area should have had over the past years.
This time last year I'd have said it proves that previous administrations lacked vision and at worst were inept.
However, given the pronouncements on here, and the vast amount of what at its very best can be described as 'ultra spin' it's clear to me that there's a whole welter of a$$-covering going on, most notably via the use of smokescreens.
You ( tchambles ) of course are merely clutching at straws, striking out in any direction, the death throes of one who sees grandeur and power slipping away.
For every nonsensical grenade you lob in I can assure you that there'll be a nuke at my end.
So, who's next ? Which one of The Party Machine's robots is going to write in the Gazette or on here ? Who's going to lob another grenade that I can defuse, dismantle, redesign and then use against you with far more explosive firepower ?
( Are you still watching HQ ? ) _________________ Rocke
People forget - or did they ever realise - that this council went close to the wire regarding Social Services.
Blindly walking to oblivion it looked like.
One of your executive held the portfolio
Had they have done it we wouldn't have been sold down the river to Llanhilleth to get on a train.
silly stuff
Nantyglo parents would have been through this catharsis 4 or 5 years ago and more importantly there could have been a more phased transition.
The Leader of the Council is in your coalition
Had our councillors had more vision it would have been obvious that ASDA going to Brynmawr, coupled with all the other applications the Council would have been in possession of, would have caused a possible ripple effect upon our town.
Abertillery should have had an alternative ready. But no, nothing.
I represent Llanhilleth, two of your group "people people" represent
Brynmawr, one of them was Leader of the Council
Indoor Bowls Centre.
Great initiative, in fact an excellent solution - short term.
But no - let's just leave it now and assume that the Indoor Bowls Club will keep it ticking along nicely.
Yep - the old Leisure Centre was 'condemned' ( hence a new one was funded and built ) but no thought went into the medium-to-long term.
And guess who got lumbered with trying to sort that one out ?
One of your group, presently suspended was responsible for this
Keep digging you may hit rock _________________ This is my truth. Now tell me yours.
People forget - or did they ever realise - that this council went close to the wire regarding Social Services.
Blindly walking to oblivion it looked like.
One of your executive held the portfolio
Had they have done it we wouldn't have been sold down the river to Llanhilleth to get on a train.
silly stuff
Nantyglo parents would have been through this catharsis 4 or 5 years ago and more importantly there could have been a more phased transition.
The Leader of the Council is in your coalition
Had our councillors had more vision it would have been obvious that ASDA going to Brynmawr, coupled with all the other applications the Council would have been in possession of, would have caused a possible ripple effect upon our town.
Abertillery should have had an alternative ready. But no, nothing.
I represent Llanhilleth, two of your group "people people" represent
Brynmawr, one of them was Leader of the Council
Indoor Bowls Centre.
Great initiative, in fact an excellent solution - short term.
But no - let's just leave it now and assume that the Indoor Bowls Club will keep it ticking along nicely.
Yep - the old Leisure Centre was 'condemned' ( hence a new one was funded and built ) but no thought went into the medium-to-long term.
And guess who got lumbered with trying to sort that one out ?
One of your group, presently suspended was responsible for this
Keep digging you may hit rock
'One of our Executive' eh.
Well since they're doing a decent job now the only difference must have been the Party Machine, HQ's policies having to be implemented.
Now they're free, able to do it mfor the people not the Party and re-election.
'silly stuff' ? - that means you haven't an answer.
Leader of the Council in the coalition
So it was Executive Member for the first answer but Leader for this one.
Mm... seems we're just m ud slinging now.
Anyway, same answer above - clearly he's serving the people not The Machine now.
Represent Llan ?
Mmm..... I thought it was Aberbeeg, Llanhilleth and Swfrydd.
Yet another freudian slip ( probably dragged out of you in anger, as it seems easy to do. I bet you're absolutely seething as you read this. I can imagine the air's blue up in parts of the Ward I represent ).
Might I remind you ( for the benefit of our readers ) that a councillor's primary responsibility is to look after the best interests of their constituents.
Brynmawr councillors clearly did that.
Where's the people of Aberbeeg's rail link ?
What did Swfrydd get in comparison to Llan's huge investment ?
Cllr. Hedley McCarthy maintains he got the 'greater Abertillery' Regen meetings going, so he clearly must have been interested in it. Why didn't he follow that through ?
Indoor Bowls Centre - WRONG.
Cllr Daniels played a major role in securing permission from the relevant bodies to use the defunct Leisure Centre as a Bowls Centre. ( That's the 'excellent' bit ).
CLLR. HEDLEY MCCARTHY WAS LEADER FOR LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS ( OR OVERSEEN IT ) OF SECURING THE LONG-TERM FUTURE OF THE CLUB.After all, the situation became apparent as part of our 'getting to know' exercise.
Again, urgent action required due to lack of foresight.
Would you like to start a discourse on investment in schools and education ? _________________ Rocke
People forget - or did they ever realise - that this council went close to the wire regarding Social Services.
Blindly walking to oblivion it looked like.
One of your executive held the portfolio
Had they have done it we wouldn't have been sold down the river to Llanhilleth to get on a train.
silly stuff
Nantyglo parents would have been through this catharsis 4 or 5 years ago and more importantly there could have been a more phased transition.
The Leader of the Council is in your coalition
Had our councillors had more vision it would have been obvious that ASDA going to Brynmawr, coupled with all the other applications the Council would have been in possession of, would have caused a possible ripple effect upon our town.
Abertillery should have had an alternative ready. But no, nothing.
I represent Llanhilleth, two of your group "people people" represent
Brynmawr, one of them was Leader of the Council
Indoor Bowls Centre.
Great initiative, in fact an excellent solution - short term.
But no - let's just leave it now and assume that the Indoor Bowls Club will keep it ticking along nicely.
Yep - the old Leisure Centre was 'condemned' ( hence a new one was funded and built ) but no thought went into the medium-to-long term.
And guess who got lumbered with trying to sort that one out ?
One of your group, presently suspended was responsible for this
Keep digging you may hit rock
'One of our Executive' eh.
He has been given the portfolio again by your leader
'silly stuff' ? - that means you haven't an answer.
Absolutely silly
Leader of the Council in the coalition
So it was Executive Member for the first answer but Leader for this one.
Mm... seems we're just m ud slinging now.
Anyway, same answer above - clearly he's serving the people not The Machine now.
Represent Llan ?
Mmm..... I thought it was Aberbeeg, Llanhilleth and Swfrydd.
and Brynithel. The name of the ward is Llanhilleth though so don't be silly
Yet another freudian slip ( probably dragged out of you in anger, as it seems easy to do. I bet you're absolutely seething as you read this. I can imagine the air's blue up in parts of the Ward I represent ).
Might I remind you ( for the benefit of our readers ) that a councillor's primary responsibility is to look after the best interests of their constituents.
Brynmawr councillors clearly did that.
Where's the people of Aberbeeg's rail link ?
In Llanhilleth
What did Swfrydd get in comparison to Llan's huge investment ?
The MBE
Cllr. Hedley McCarthy maintains he got the 'greater Abertillery' Regen meetings going, so he clearly must have been interested in it. Why didn't he follow that through ?
Lost the election to a disparate bunch of promisers who are hell bent on turning Blaenau Gwent into a banana republic without the bananas
Indoor Bowls Centre - WRONG.
Cllr Daniels played a major role in securing permission from the relevant bodies to use the defunct Leisure Centre as a Bowls Centre. ( That's the 'excellent' bit ).
CLLR. HEDLEY MCCARTHY WAS LEADER FOR LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS ( OR OVERSEEN IT ) OF SECURING THE LONG-TERM FUTURE OF THE CLUB.After all, the situation became apparent as part of our 'getting to know' exercise.
Again, urgent action required due to lack of foresight.
Would you like to start a discourse on investment in schools and education ?
Why don't you debate it with me in the Council Chamber that way you may get a result instead of just boring people _________________ This is my truth. Now tell me yours.
Let's see - street lighting switch-off and you mentioned young people gathering in the evenings.
Me - evenings are after midnight.
Rail Link buses - you - funding withdrawn under this council.
Me - failure to secure sustainable funding caused the problem.
If I remember Cllr Thomas had to rescue you on that one.
Service buses and the rail link. you - every effort to get Stagecoach to change their times.
Me - has anyone asked Arriva if they'd change the trains slightly.
You - looking sheepish and somewhat foolishly muttering 'the rail network can't do it I suppose ?' How do you know - are you in charge of timetabling ?
Rail link - you - how many attempts to stir it up ?
Me - I got you to confess that you knew it was a long way down the line.
Not a prayer mate.
As you'll see from a posting in a moment, you've been mine for some time. I've finished you. _________________ Rocke
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: lucky old them
i dont think they can call themselves lucky old them .i think i will wave my wand and all the rubbish they are talking will just dissapear.all talk no action
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Lost the election to a disparate bunch of promisers who are hell bent on turning Blaenau Gwent into a banana republic without the bananas 