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jeffthomas



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Junior School  Reply with quote

Although I didn't go to Queen St. school, I think I recognise a couple of faces in the '57 photo. The boy on the back row (4th from right) may well be Stuart England, and the girl with the glasses in the front was Mary Powis. Can't help with any others!!
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John



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks jeff,thats 2 more than me
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Robert



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Junior Reply with quote

Hi John
I think the teacher in the photo is Mr Bowen. Anyone with other info please add. Ron Francis was shorter and stockier.
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John



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That old cliche: I thought he was taller or was that Mr Roberts?
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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Reply with quote

Yes, Mrs Sparkes was the music teacher, but I think she had her own class too (?)  I remember her always wearing an overall.
Philip, I don't have rose tinted specs about Mr. Vernon since that seems to be aimed at me. I am aware that he was very strict. But I have no bad memories of him, only the kind one about his helping me to tell the time.
I remember leaving Queen Street for good at the end of the summer term in 1962, before going to the Grammar, and being very upset indeed - even though there were the summer holidays to look forward to. It was a very happy school as far as I was concerned. Any "nasty" teachers came later!!
There was more than orange juice on offer at the clinic next to the arcade!!  Injections which hurt more then! And the dentist.  I had a genuine fear of gas at the dentist and refused to have that black mask over my face when I was 10.  I actually pulled it off. My mother had to take me to Mr. Clancy instead so that I could have an injection. Even though that was painful it was better than being gassed!  My father was furious, for some reason. Anyhow, I got my way.
Being a Six Bells boy, I can only remember the fish and chip shop down there, on the same side as the presbyterian chapel. I suppose that might be rose tinted specs - thinking that chips tasted better then, but I expect they did!
Anthony
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X P O P



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can only put names to a few of the children in pics 2 and 3 , however the lady teacher in red is Mrs Connie Lloyd Jones , the male Teacher being Ken Hewitt.
Between 1959 through to 1966 the Staff was
Queen Street Infants
Miss Solloway as head Teacher then Miss Blunt,
Miss Elvira Williams class1
Mrs Doris Price  Class 2
Miss Mary James  Class 3
Mrs LLoyd Class4

Queen Street Juniors

Mrs Hilda Hughes Class 1
Mrs Marie Paige Class 2
Mrs Connie Lloyd Jones Class 3
Mrs Bernice Brown Class 4
Mr Livesy (went on to Gramma School)
Mr Ken Hewitt  Final year class
The Headmaster was actually Mr W J  Vernal  not Vernon from Chepstow
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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:02 am    Post subject: Queen Street Reply with quote

I stand corrected about Mr. Vernon/Vernal, and I think you made a typing error with Mr. Lovesey!
You don't mention Mrs Sparkes, or Mrs Shellard who retired in 1960.
And there was young Mr. Snellgrove who definitely taught in my time there. We knew his mother in Richmond Road.
I knew Ken Hewitt when I was a bit older. His father was Stan and he was the Church Warden at St. John's, Six Bells for many years. Ken was one of the servers there.
I remember Mrs Lloyd at the top of the Infants who taught us all to sew (including the boys!)  Does anyone recall those small squares of tapestry that we used to work with different coloured wools?
I remember making a raffia work stool when in Mr. Lovesey's class. He took the top class from 1961- 62. We also started geometry with him. A truly kind, lovely man - and that is NOT rose tinted spectacles!!
Anthony
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X P O P



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Mr Vernal the Headmaster was indeed very strict, many of us young boys had the cane on the hand from him even at Junior School age , it did us no real  harm accept for a painful hand for some time afterwards,  infact I think we were and are better for it and what a pity its not used in schools today.The staff at junior school were in the main strict , they were all very good teachers though, Mrs Hughes did  give a good dig in the shoulder with that ring, Mrs Brown could be very strict ,can always remember going up to her desk to have 20 mental arithmetic Qs marked any wrong answers would be the X then a prod in the belly with her pen.
Mr Livesy , it was pronounced as LOVEsy but I am 99.9% certain it is spelled LIVEsy, he lived Blenheim Road way Six Bells the reason I'm certain of the spelling is because I am an X Postie and was suprised at how it was spelled myself because he was always refered to as Mr LOVEsy.
I can also remember the footstools, they were ready assembled and we had to weave a criss cross two coloured cord to complete them, Bring back the cane in schools I say  lol
P.s Mr Snellgrove , memory jogg , yes he did teach at Queen Street for a while he was an  Art Teacher Mr Gary Snellgrove.
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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Reply with quote

Dear XPOP,
                    Are we permitted to know what these initials stand for ?
     I think you'll find that we are not supposed to mention Hilda Hughes' ring!  All I will say is that her greatest life-long friend was my aunt Betty, dad's sister. They'd been at the Grammar together. Aunty Betty would not, I know, have approved of Hilda doing that, and would, in fact, have been disgusted.
As for Ma Brown and her pen, well, we learn something knew every day! Yes, she could be sarcastic, I recall.
Mr. Lovesey was, like his name, always lovely!
As for the cane, I thoroughly agree with you. It should certainly be restored, but not, surely, in junior schools.
Anthony
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welshlizmiles



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: school clinic Reply with quote

I didn't go to Queen Street, I went to Arael Primary- we still had the same clinic with the gas mask. I can remember coming out screaming after treatment, the secretary from Arael saw me with my mother and bought me a cadbury's cream egg- presumably to shut me up! I also went to Mr Clancy after that incident!
Liz
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Phillip T. Small



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anthony, my dear learned friend.. In no way was I 'popping' at your good self or indeed any other 'poster'..

As for my 'memory' of Mr Vernal/Vernon it was not a good one and remains with me to this day...

Mrs Hughes, however, a different kettle of fish. She lived in the same street as myself and was very good friends with my mother. Indeed her extra coaching got me through to the Grammar School.. I sat my 11 plus in Sully Sanatorium by the way !!

The chip shop (now long gone) in Six was run by the Tossel family and thereafter Mrs Davies, her daughter Margaret and her husband.
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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Reply with quote

But, Liz, it looks as if you went through with the "treatment" !!
I didn't - I just tore off the mask before anything could happen!
I am still uneasy at the thought of ever having to have a hospital general anasthetic, however advanced they now are!
Just so that Martyn can't complain that we're off the subject again, I can tell you that Mrs Brown at Queen Street agreed with my father that it was "very babyish" to be frightened of "a whiff of gas"!!  As the dentist's injection was painful in those days, I thought I was brave in preferring that!
Anthony x
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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Reply with quote

Dear Phillip,
I too thought a lot of Hilda Hughes, aunty Hilda which I called her when older (ie after Queen Street).
My cousins in Bracknell and I often speak about her. Hilda was very sorry when my aunt left Abertillery for Reading (then Bracknell when she married) but used to go and stay with them sometimes.
I know she was almost paralysed at the end and couldn't even ring my aunt, nor answer the phone.
I never knew anything about this infamous ring business.
Anthony
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X P O P



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy I prefer to remain as X P O P  tyvm,
Mrs Hilda Hughes and the dreaded ring , it did exist and I still have the marks to prove it (no I don't) but my memory does, I had it a few times, we must remember we were all small then and it honestly felt like you pushed your classmate sat next to you out of the seat Laughing beleive she would also refer to you as a "Dunce or Duffer"  as she prodded, again it did us no harm , can remember telling me mam when things like that happened , her answer would always be "if you got it right in the first place she wouldn't have done it", Mrs Hughes was actually related to my grandfather somewhere along the lineage.  It was the same on the occasion if Mr Vernal gave you the cane , parents response would be "well he didn't give it to you for nothing",  I can re call Phillip being in Sully Hospital around the time of 11 plus year, and am thinking maybe he was there because he did suffer quite poorly with bronchial problems, am pretty certain his folks gave us big bag of conkers that he had picked whilst in hospital.

Strange enough why is it no one has ever mentioned those freezing outdoor Lavvys , they would always freeze over in the cold winters . we would encourage the freezing by adding fresh snow into the system, but ol'Vernal (not being impolite) would be there with the salt, no heated corridor ,no hot running water in the cloakroom , a double sized open fire in the classrooms when I started school and a gas heater on the wall , then those  (often smelly) smokeless coke burning stoves replaced the open fires, teachers desks being placed nearest to the fire.
and the young and the youth of today have almost everything and think its all about them, where did it all go wrong , pity they didn't have a trip back to those times for a few months, esp in winter, they would have more appreciation and respect for one another .
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maryann



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: memories Reply with quote

I must disagree with the coment !!!There are an awful lot of very good youngsters about today.I dont think being rediculed by the teacher or being out in the cold would make much difference

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