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Robert



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Junior  Reply with quote

Hi All
Who remembers, when you were milk monitor,in cold weather having to put the bottles near the open fire in the classroom in order for the milk to melt. I remember the frozen milk about an inch above the top with the silver top still on the top of the milk.
What about school dinners, mashed potato and baked beans,great , and that aweful  semolina pudding. I ate so much one day I was sick. Saint Davids Day, "Dafydd y Garreg Wen" in assembly and leeks for school dinners. At Christmas some of the lucky ones had a silver sixpence in their pud, I never got one orrrrrr,,,

Robert
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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:56 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Reply with quote

Dear Robert,
                    I remember the "milk in winter" but I remember getting WARM milk which, without sugar, didn't taste nice!  And skin on top.
Mrs Brown made us drink it, but Mr Lovesey, being kindness itself, did not. Ugh!
If there were 6d coins in the Christmass (double ss is Catholic!!!) pud, then everyone should have had one.  Little things like that are hurtful to children.
Also it was very bad to announce who was eligible for a free dinner.
The other thing that has always stayed with me is those Saving Stamps.  Do you all remember?  6d and 2/6d. The teachers asking publicly who was buying one that week.  Maybe some didn't ask publicly, but old Ma Brown sure did!!
I think the 6d one was Princess Ann and was the 2/6d one Prince Charles??
I was given the half crown every week to buy one, and at 10/11 was too innocent to realise how unkind that was to the children who could never have one.
Funny that that should happen under  Monmouthshire Education Authority, permanently run by Labour!! (I mean it being so public)
By the way, I saved up all these stamps (well, my father did, on my behalf) and when I went to University in 1969 I was presented with a lovely cheque - the result of all those years of saving.
All well and good for those who can!  NOT, surely, things to make public for those who can't at the age of 11!!!
Mary Ann, I agree that there are lots of good, nice children and young people - everywhere. But something like 20% are NOT 'nice' and speak to adults in a really rude, disgraceful way, knowing they are safe in the arms of the European Human Rights legislation.  Come and stay for a week with me in London (even posh Hampstead) if you want proof!!
They all "want too much" of course, but that is clearly the fault of their silly parents who can't say No!
As a priest I suppose I can say that the onlooker sees more of the game.
I am still waiting for more memories of Mrs Shellard.
Anthony
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maryann



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject: memories Reply with quote

HelloAnthony ---Seems like school memories are the making of us !!
I loved the school milk and my sister hated it.
As for 6d in the pudding -no matter how unkind not everyone can have everything and the earlier  we are taught that the better.You were what I call the 'privileged 'as your parents could afford to save for you,mine could just about manage to feed and clothe us but love was plentiful .
As for your 20% being rude etc ,I think this applies to all ages and not just youth ,in all places.I have met some nasty older people too. .I do believe the world has not really changed in this respect.
I dont make excuses for wrongdoers but I do not blame the parents.There are many 'good parents 'whose children for some reason go of the rails.
There is some good and bad in all of us.
As a nonchurch goer I have had little contact with priests but I did not expect one to be judgemental.
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John



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Shool Dinners,Milk Monitors,Bell Ringers,Those Toilets Reply with quote

I was one of the poor people who sometimes had free school dinners,one of the female teachers used to make you wait until the payers were sat down and had their dinner in front of them before you were allowed to sit down,then in a loud voice NOW Free Dinners SIT.On my earlier story about a teacher paying my dinner I now think it was Mrs Shelly ,lady with glasses ,well dressed and light curled hair.She was also the one who shared out the dutis fairly for bell ringing and milk monitors,she taught in the left hand classroom.As for those toilets during the winter you went in and froze and then ripped yourself to pieces on the toilet paper,no soft paper in those days.
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John



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry should read Mrs Shellard
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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Reply with quote

Dear John,
I am glad to know that it was Mrs Shellard who did that act of kindness.  I should so love to know more about her "younger days"
You have corroborated what I said about this ANNOUNCING the poor - and that in a Labour area.
Mary Ann, we all have to make some judgements every day, about every thing!
Yes, I was lucky, but at 11 I don't know that. My father was an ordinary Abertillery man who had trained at EV Steelworks to be an accountant - over many years. His best friend was Mr Alban Sweet, next door, who was a miner.
You should hear some of the Confessions that I do - mostly little things like "I said something to Mrs so-and-so, and I wish I hadn't."
Judging is NOT the same as discernment, surely?
There are bad parents and they do affect their children's behaviour.
And there are good parents with bad children.
For me Queen Street was a great start in life - and all positive; I appreciate that for others it was different.
A
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Robert



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Junior Reply with quote

Your right John that paper was hard Izal if I remember correctly. I remember having to go to school in wellies even on dry days, money was short and  there still wasn't much about even 10 years after WW2. You mentioned the orange juice etc. and the dentist near the arcade. Do you remember having to queue up for the polio jabs down that narrow corridor next to the arcade. At that time they closed the parks swimming pool.
I remember one day at dinner break I think it was me , you and Terry went over the wall and down the bank to the top of Vivian Pit, we arrived back in school late and our hands were covered in coal dust, Mrs hughes refered to us as Blackbirds.
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John



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was one of the poor children of Abertillery ,but like Anthony ,Queen street school gave me a great start in life and yes looking back some of the teachers were a bit harsh,but the good ones made up for it.We look back and thank them for they gave us a grounding and they did it for our own good,so come on boys and girls lets get back to the subject in hand of memories of Queen Street School good or bad but memories.
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Margaret in australia



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert I see you mention a Mrs Hughes as a teacher at Queen St. school.  Could that have been Miss Hughes ?  Asking because my sister who was Miss Hughes  before she married and moved away was a teacher there for a while.. My sister died some years ago, she was  about 12 years older than me, so I cannot remember a lot about  her teaching. I do remember how she was always preparing lessons at home.  Wish I could remember more.
Cheers   Margaret Price ( nee Hughes)
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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Reply with quote

Dear Margaret,
                    No Mrs Hilda Hughes was previously Miss Williams. I know this because she was a family friend - in fact the best (life long) friend of my Aunt Betty, who was also Miss Williams before she married!
Were you a Queen Street pupil yourself?
All the best,
Anthony
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Margaret in australia



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Anthony, I was a British School pupil.  We lived at Cyril Place,on the Old Blaina Road,right behind the swimming pool.......happy memories.
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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Queen Street Reply with quote

Dear Margaret,
                  My father also went to the British School but, I am sure, before your time. He was born in 1907, and I was born in 1951.
I am fairly sure it was a boys' school in the 1920s, but no doubt somebody will correct me if that's not true. He left there to go to Newport Commercial College.
Mary Ann, this is something you might know!
In fact, I really would like to know more about the history of the British School.  Didn't it have nonconformist leanings, as opposed to Saint Michael's Church School?
We should start a thread about this.
Anthony
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Margaret in australia



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I was at the British School it had,  infants  ( mixed )   then seperate Girls  and Boys, up to about 12 years.  I was born 1932 so was at The British  from about 1937 to 1944.
Miss Gatfield was headmistress of the Girls school when I was there.
Margaret
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dragongirl



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Location: Coventry West midlands

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: QUEENST JUNIOR SCHOOL Reply with quote

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 Lovely to see Queen Street Junior School being named school of the week in the South Wales Argus,even with a shared headmistress she
seems to be doing everything right.
Congratulations to pupils and staff !!
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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:23 pm    Post subject: Queen Street Reply with quote

Does the Headmistress then have charge of two schools?
Which is the other one.
Seems they get a thoroughly good education (as was always so) at Queen Street, and then have to struggle when they are transferred to their secondary school! That's if Welsh school statistics are to be believed.
Anthony

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