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Anthony Earl-Williams



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:47 am    Post subject: Religion  Reply with quote

But how many of The Friends of Christchurch, let alone the people of Aberbeeg, actually went regularly to the church for services when it was open? A lot of money is needed to maintain the fabric of any church building!
It is no use moaning about the closure now, if you didn't support the church when you had the chance!!
As the Government is now giving money (yesterday's Budget) for the upkeep of historic cathedrals and churches, perhaps the Friends of Christchurch should apply for a grant. But they would have to do this in cooperation with the Diocesan authorities.
The photos are really nice, Stoob. It looks almost rural, Liz, where you lived.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:58 am    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

Somerset Street Methodist Chapel.
Opened in 1876, but despite extensions they were unable to cope with demand and a sister church was opened in Newall Street in 1906.
Despite 100 years of support the chapel finally succumbed to the modern age and closed in 1978.
However, one remnant still remains in the shape of the pipe organ which found it's way to the USA state of Texas. The organ had a makeover and it's last known residing place was the St. Mary's Episcol Church, Cypress, Houston, Texas.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:32 am    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

Thank you, Stoob. I have nice memories of Somerset Street Methodists (even though I was n't one!) and I know that Dragon girl will be delighted to see this since she used to go there. I remember going to one or two Anniversaries there - the singing was very good.
It is tragic that it had to close, but I am pleased to learn about the organ. I guess the congregation went down to almost nothing at the end - like Christchurch, Aberbeeg.
My half brother Derek was a Methodist (because Dad was) and also went to Somerset Street. He was very friendly with Garth Rogers (another Richmond Road boy). Garth's parents (Kate & Ivor) were staunch Methodist and Garth became a Methodist Minister.
Still sorting out some photos of St. John's and Father Oscroft-Jones to send to you.
Do you by any chance have a photo of the interior of the "Primms"?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:54 am    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

Primms, Six Bells ?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:02 am    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

No, Stoob!
Somerset Street was called the Primms because the chapel was what was known as Primitive Methodist. They thought they were more loyal to the founding principles of Methodism than the Wesleyan Methodists up on Tillery Street. My grandmother (dad's mother) who lived in Richmond Road, used to walk past the Primms all the way up to what she considered the "real" Methodists on Tillery Street!
Have emailed Dragon girl to tell her to have a look at the photo.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:39 am    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

Regards the inside, don't think so,
First Methodist Chapel, Castle Street, 1849.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:43 pm    Post subject: Somerset Street methodist Church Reply with quote

hi stoob
    You have been busy- I  remember it well from Sunday school classes from 5`sh up  Youth Club and choir practice from 12yrs on
My mum was a Baptist but I was sent to Somerset street maybe because a lot of local children and families went there. The mainstay at that time were the Russell  family they seemed to organise every thing very efficiently  too I recall.
  I married my first husband there in 1959, moved away but  a few years later moved back to Oak St. then my daughters went to  Blaenau Gwent Church . Very happy memories and made many friends -- these days it seems I only get to Church/Chapel for the life cycle of Christenings, marriages and deaths,
Hope family all well-- back in touch with Gordon -must try to get down to Wales in May when we go to Ireland via Pembroke but
usually stay on route at a Premier Inn or somewhere  similar!!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:45 pm    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

There's nowhere similar in Abertillery, not even a B & B in Abertillery.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:31 pm    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

Which is so very sad because Abertillery's environs are really beautiful and it should be attracting tourists.
There was a delightful B&B in Cwmtillery but it seems that has now been commandeered by the social services....
Doesn't the Six Bells Hotel do rooms?
Back to Religion!!  Dragongirl, do you remember the wooden birthday cake which always came out at Sunday School at Somerset Street when it was somebody's birthday? It did have candles. I suppose they couldn't rustle up a real one with so many children in attendance!
What was that verse sung at the end?  Something like:
"Our Sunday School is over and we are going home.
Goodbye...goodbye...we will be kind and true.
And the Sunday School teachers replied by singing:
Goodbye...goodbye.. you must be kind and true!!
I know I haven't invented that, and I think they were the words!! I can even hear the tune in my head!
What a far cry from today's brattish world!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

Brynithel Cemetery 1908.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:47 pm    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

Stoob,
Was that when it was opened? Did the Bishop of Monmouth consecrate it?  Burial there (like at St. Paul's, Cwmtillery) must be slightly difficult on a steep slope. But it is a pleasant place when the sun is shining. Ted and Ida Mounter are buried there. Perhaps some others of our old teachers too?
Is the Cemetery Chapel still there? Last time I went, about 4 years ago, I only remember seeing an 'office' where the cemetery keeper was.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:47 am    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

Pictured 1908, they held services there until subsidence forced them to stop in the 1940's. It was finally demolished in the 1980's.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:58 pm    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

Tillery Street Methodist Church pictured May 1907. This church replaced the old Weslyan Chapel of 1854.
The church was closed and destroyed by fire in the 1980's.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

It was a tragedy that such a nice piece of architecture should have been destroyed. And really the same time as Somerset Street closing. As if Abertillery could afford to lose two heritage pieces. The Methodists must have been in a quandry about then. The rift between the Primms and the Wesleyans has been healed which is good. I don't know how many attend the new chapel in Powell Street.
My Monmouthshire grandmother was a faithful supporter at Tillery Street for over 60 years - till she moved to Bracknell to live with her daughter in 1951 when she was 74. She always regretted leaving Abertillery and selling up at Richmond Road, which basically she needn't have done. When she got to Bracknell, she found there was no Methodist chapel!! Her daughter, Betty, my aunt, was by then C of E, but granny refused to go there as she was a staunch nonconformist! She opted for the Congregationalists where she received, of course, a very warm welcome!
I wish a few more would add to this thread.
You are certainly bringing back many memories for us, Stoob.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:18 pm    Post subject: Religion Reply with quote

Believe that was where General Booth spoke on one visit.
Great dressed stone, gone forever.


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