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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:12 pm    Post subject: Rocke / Stoob, is this about it?  Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:28 pm    Post subject: Blaenau Gwent Chapelyard. Reply with quote

Solid Ian.
Knew David Rees Griffiths died at home in 1915, saw it recently in the book "With Rifle and Pick".
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:20 am    Post subject: Blaenau Gwent Chapelyard. Reply with quote

Ian, do you have access to the people buried there ?
If so look for a Thomas Bevan for me he died September 1906, would have been a big funeral.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi stoob, R10/G50 Bevan Thomas, School, for Son, 21/9/1893 but I think also this one R10/G55, its Beavan Thomas, I suspect a miss type as this is about were the large obelisk is. I think this is actually just below the path. A little tweak to the plan needed. I will email the inscription to you as its a bit long to type. The inscription mentions at least 8 people so their will be at least one more grave which I cannot instantly identify. It can be difficult piecing the bits together as you need to know family relationships and dates! down t know if the large obelisk still exists?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Memorial Stone is just about spot on Ian.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A rather  thought-provoking fact:

Out of the 3433 graves purchased 1376 were originally  for  children and 264 for a son or daughter.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark days.

Dragongirl's sister, poor little mite, had a life of just 10 days.
Infant mortality was enormous in those days.

We (I most certainly) complain about Labour letting us down but let's never forget that it brought about an end to things such as that.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rocke. Going back to the original question 'Does anybody know the current whereabouts of the gravestones that used to stand in the cemetery up there ?' posted by stoob. I don't want to get political at all, I just wanted to find out what happened to my wife's family grave stones. Is this post that you made last year correct, are they laid flat?


Rocke, Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:24 pm
"Hi Daff.

I think it's correct to think of it like a churchyard. It was totally administered by the Baptist Church.
All the headstones have now been laid flat and hence from a distance it looks like an open patch of land.
As far as I recall, all (or certainly the majority) of war-related graves are behind the church (I believe the Baptists took on the name 'church' some years back) ie on the Eastern/Alma St (google maps) side.
Again, please feel free to PM me - I live less than 50 yds from there."
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it was totally administered by the Baptist Church - until around 20 years ago I'm reliably informed. That's when BGCBC took on the responsibility. (Sorry but if I'd have known at the time I was a councillor and this question had arisen then more info would have been provided because I'd have imposed my right as a councillor to know what happened).

In all honesty not all the headstones have been laid flat.
The obelisks and other 'non-headstones' are still upright, as are a few family headstones (albeit at varying degrees of leaning) and the CWGC ones (all upright).
The absolutely correct description would be to say that over 90% of graves have no marker above ground level. (There is not 340 'markers' visible and if there are over 3,400 graves then I am correct).

Your accurate diagram shows that all the graves of servicemen are indeed on the eastern side, apart from the dual memorial for Air Technician Jones and Private Rose (who as the memorial states are 'buried elsewhere' in the chapelyard).

My posts and contributions are not primarily political but I accept that since there will possibly be implied criticism of a council that is run by a party (and its members) that I quite clearly have absolutely no confidence in, an attempt could be made to make it out to be that way. I think however that use of the 'p' word in a situation such as this is not just unfortunate but demeans the values we put on the sacrifice of those who were and are ours Ian.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Stoob and Rocke, If anyone can add more details please let us know. The plan is my best guess, but is totally free to use if it helps place other people's family.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:09 pm    Post subject: Blaenau Gwent Chapelyard. Reply with quote

Apparently from 01 April 2014 the administration charge for the Borough Council to do a burial search was set at 55.00p.
The Gwent Family History Society charge 2.00p plus postage for the same service.
The cats are getting fatter, have to widen the doors over the Civic soon.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Blaenau Gwent Chapelyard. Reply with quote

stoob wrote:
Apparently from 01 April 2014 the administration charge for the Borough Council to do a burial search was set at 55.00p.
The Gwent Family History Society charge 2.00p plus postage for the same service.
The cats are getting fatter, have to widen the doors over the Civic soon.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:26 am    Post subject: Blaenau Gwent Chapelyard. Reply with quote

Rocke, if you have the minutes of the burial search fee increase, put the names of the committee that decided it up please. You know they love their names in the spotlight.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting.

I can't find it in any Minutes of what I think is the relevant Committee.
I've asked the Council to let me know when and how these were agreed.

Watch this space I suppose.................
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Blaenau Gwent Chapelyard. Reply with quote

Rocke, there's a theory that those gravestones are buried beneath the new church.
Given this councils track record it has to be a credible opinion.


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