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Eddie legge



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Burial costs Blaenau Gwent  Reply with quote

How many councilors dose it take to Screw the bereaved in Blaenau Gwent
We are the poorest relation of 22 local authorities in Wales
Residents have the lowest life span in Wales
Yet Burial costs in Blaenau Gwent are third highest of local authorities below who took part in survey
Burial costs in Wales Oct 11 2010
Cost of excavation of grave for first interment
Blaenau Gwent £605
Bridgend £282
Cardiff £455
Ceredigion £600
Denbighshire £400
Flintshire £611
Gwynedd £783
Merthyr Tydfil £339
Monmouthshire £578
Newport £550
Pembrokeshire £333
Powys £258
Rhonda Cynon Taff £199
Wrexham £510
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note what Eddie's been told to say -
Eddie legge wrote:
Cost of excavation of grave for first interment
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Note the Minutes of November's Env Health Scrutiny Committee:

BGCBC Minutes wrote:
SC385/(-)

CEMETERY FEES AND CHARGES 2011/2012



Councillor G. Thomas declared an interest but remained in the meeting, and took no part in the discussion.



Consideration was given to report of the Director of Environment & Regeneration.



The Chief Environmental Services Officer spoke to the report and highlighted points contained therein.



He pointed out that currently Blaenau Gwent was the lowest charging Authority in Wales for cemetery fees, however, if the proposals outlined in the report were supported, Blaenau Gwent would be third lowest.  This was based on the other two Authorities not increasing their charges.





The Officer also pointed out that there would be no increase in charges for non-residential burials this year, in order to make them more proportionate with residential burials.



A Member stated that the level of fees for burials of babies under one year was quite high, and stated that if the number of burials was very low, then perhaps this fee could be waived.









The Officer said he would forward this information to the Member.  In terms of burials for still born babies, he explained that there was no fee, as these took place on land within the cemetery that could not accommodate a burial plot, and this was in agreement with the family.  However, if they did require a burial plot then the normal fees would apply.



He explained that a baby grave was smaller, and whilst the right of burial fee was the same the costs for interment were lower.



In response to a question raised by the Chair in relation to further increases in the next couple of years, the Officer explained that it was intended to make the charges more comparative with other Local Authorities.  This would enable the service to become self sufficient and not subsidised by the tax payer.



RESOLVED to recommend, subject to the foregoing, that the report be accepted and:-



i)                   the increased cemetery fees/charges for 2011/2012 commence on the 1st January, 2011; and



ii)                 to further increase charges by more than inflation in the next couple of years in order to bring our charges to a comparative level with our neighbouring authorities.


The cost of excavation per grave isn't the whole issue, as I think all will realise.
It does BGCBC credit that despite the 3rd highest cost of excavation we are the 3rd lowest charging authority for a burial  

Who told you the figures Eddie ?
Who's using you ? !!!
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Eddie legge



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: I have not been told to say Reply with quote

To Cllr Dave Rocke
Burial costs in Wales
(Hot topics Wales on line Western Mail Oct 11 2010)
Blame those not me as with the Tax the fat cats Forum
I have only reported that what I have read
Take it up with the author of Burial costs in Wales  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's such a "HOT " topic why wait three months to bring it up?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was dead interesting.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a subject to be buried then?  Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: hot subject Reply with quote

Brithyll
Hot subject
Not one to a be buried
Gwent Gazette did when reported
three months ago
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And so did former councillor Royston Welch Eddie.

He apparently felt that burial fees only affected the elderly.
I believe the error of his views was soundly addressed by um... me the following week.

It's little wonder people are starting to get fed up with this nonsense ( not you, but the daft slanted - if not twisted - way things are reported ).

Can you imagine it ?
The Party HQ, the War Room and all these clever young grads thin king 'how can we find a way of turning the 3rd lowest fees in Wales into the 3rd highest in people's minds ?'

DING ! someone says 'burials is digging, digging means JCBs, let's see what JCB rates are like in Blaenau Gwent'.
'You stupid boy' says Control.

'I've got it !' says another.
'If BGCBC is one of the cheapest it must make less money - and therefore be more subsidised - than most of the others'.

'Brilliant' says Control. 'We'll use proportions of cost'.

And lo and behold, BGCBC has the 3rd highest ratio of cost of excavation to Burial Fee charged.

This of course is complete conjecture on my part.
It's too strange to be true.

Isn't it ?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Burial costs Blaenau Gwent Reply with quote

I wonder if the Eddie's would like to tell us how much it has gone up by now?


Eddie legge wrote:
How many councilors dose it take to Screw the bereaved in Blaenau Gwent
We are the poorest relation of 22 local authorities in Wales
Residents have the lowest life span in Wales
Yet Burial costs in Blaenau Gwent are third highest of local authorities below who took part in survey
Burial costs in Wales Oct 11 2010
Cost of excavation of grave for first interment
Blaenau Gwent £605
Bridgend £282
Cardiff £455
Ceredigion £600
Denbighshire £400
Flintshire £611
Gwynedd £783
Merthyr Tydfil £339
Monmouthshire £578
Newport £550
Pembrokeshire £333
Powys £258
Rhonda Cynon Taff £199
Wrexham £510

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's unfair Ian. It's a completely different situation now.

We've got a Labour council.

Eddie will be along shortly to completely ignore your point and throw around a few personal insults.

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