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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:55 pm    Post subject: Mount Pleasants Row, Alma Street  Reply with quote

Hi everyone
My Gt Grandfather Thomas Lewis lived at 6 Mount Pleasants Row Pen-y-bont. It seems that the houses were running in line south of the Green Villas, but no longer exsist, but The Mount Pleasant Inn which was at the southern, next to Thomas's house still stands.
Thomas was born in Blaen-y-cwm, pontypool in 1861. He was a prize fighter and sank Six Bells. He married Mary Davies who died of TB in 1901. She had a daughter Blodwen Lewis, and a son Thomas who died of Pneumonia in 1908 aged 19.
Mary, then Thomas jnr, then in 1929 Thomas snr were laid to rest in one grave near the Alma Street wall of Blaenau Gwent cemetery. Are there photos and records relating to these people and 6 Mount Pleasants Row.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:05 am    Post subject: Mount Pleasant Rows. Alma Street Reply with quote

Didn't see Thomas Lewis named among the sinkers when those accidents took place in the 1890's, probably in a different gang.
Seen a picture of the sinkers down there but don't think they were named.
There was a book published a few years back called Mountain Fighters by Laurence Davies, supposedly about the locals, he may feature in there.
Mount Pleasant Row was there see if I can find out why and when it ceased to be.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:20 am    Post subject: Mount Pleasant Rows. Alma Street Reply with quote

Yes all 4 living at Mount Pleasant Row on the 1901 census, must have been before Mary's death, saw the actual page on another site.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:15 pm    Post subject: Mount Pleasant Rows. Alma Street Reply with quote

A Thomas Lewis purchased a grave for his wife on 24 August 1901 up Blaenau Gwent, the grave number Row 23 Grave 030, address given just as Mount Pleasant.
Mount Pleasant Rows probably went when they filled the valley in for the school and leisure centre.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:27 pm    Post subject: Mt. Pleasant Row Reply with quote

Thanks Stoob and anyone else showing an interest.
The grave Thomas Lewis book was booked on the very day of Mary's death. I guess he had time to prepare for Mary dying as TB isn't a sudden death, she suffered for 6 months and exhaustion finished her off. I have been to the cemetery but unfortunately many graves had laminated or been removed. Would row 23 run close to the Alma street wall ?
There had been a stone and my grandfather said the grave's near the wall. The disappearance of the houses is not the first or last I have experienced that. The family lived at no.6 Mt. Pleasants Row. Thomas was a shot firer at many colleries he worked at and it was a mishap involving explosives at Waterloo, Oakdale in 1929 that killed him. I was told he did this job at Six Bells too. Looking at old maps Mt. Pleasant row disappeared between 1978 and 1884, but the school etc was already built. But Alma Street crowding the houses.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:49 am    Post subject: Mount Pleasant Rows. Alma Street Reply with quote

That being the case the building of the leisure centre would be the probable date. The houses were numbered 3 to 10 with number 3 being closest to the Mount Pleasant Inn.
There's a CD of both Blaenau Gwent and Cwmtillery graveyards but believe there's something on here, check if there's a topic on Blaenau Gwent Chapelyard as a few people have had trouble with the missing gravestones.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:39 am    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Thanks Stoob
I notice you have been discussing BG cemetery with Rocke, which I have read parts of. It seems hopeless that I might ever see my families stone or the grave it belongs to. These officials sell our heritage and then try to charge us 55 to get any access to it. I looked for old photos but I have found none of the Mount Pleasants Row. I wonder, if the Inn have any old pictures of those houses. Is New Bridgend Inn the same building as Old Bridgend inn, because Mary Lewis from the grave mentioned was Mary Davies the step daughter of John Cobbett, landlord of the old Bridgend Inn.
I have lost bits of my history all over the place. I lost Scotch Row, Gilfach Goch, Twissells Row, the Tranch Pontypool, and Mount Pleasants Row. very disconcerting. I wonder if any of these houses are at St. Fagan. All the best Dale
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:09 am    Post subject: Mount Pleasant Rows. Alma Street Reply with quote

The Mount Pleasant isn't a pub any longer so no pictures there.
There were two Bridgend's and he's not on here but I know a guy related to John Cobbett, albeit the surname spelt various ways on census records.
There's a picture of the Old Bridge End out there, believe it was 1890's could be online.
Tranch is still there and I would opine Twissells Row was Aberbeeg, a few Twissell shops down there behind the Packhorse Bridge, should be able to see them if you google images of the packhorse.
You are certainly right about heritage in this borough.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:26 am    Post subject: Mount Pleasant Rows. Alma Street Reply with quote

Ben Fieldhouse had the Old Bridge End it's pictured in the book Look back at old Abertillery, Volume 1,  page 47. Old Bakehouse Publications did the books
Emma and Herbert Twissell had the shops in Aberbeeg, probably buried up St Illtyd Brynithel, I've got a CD of the burials up there, unfortunately I've lent it out.
Pictures of their shop are likely to be in the Aberbeeg books from the same publisher.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:09 am    Post subject: Mount Pleasant Rows. Alma Street Reply with quote

There was a family surname Twisle living at Napoleon Cottage, Tranch on the 1891 census.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Mount Pleasants Row, Alma Street Reply with quote

My Dad   Tom Symonds or  (Simmonds) was born 7th Nov 1898 at number 5 Mount Pleasant ,  

         He went to the 'Cock and Chick' school ?

In 1926 he left Wales with his wife Elsie nee Morgan, their 4 children and  followed Elsie's parents  to find  work in the Summit colliery  at East Kirkby Notts[
            Many years ago I went to  see Mount Pleasant cottages, and was invited inside, they were so very small, how did they manage to get 7 people in such a small space  they had no running water  inside,  only a cold water tap outside  I am surprised they are still standing
                Marianne
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:11 am    Post subject: Mount Pleasant Rows. Alma Street Reply with quote

There's a Tom Symonds living on Alma Street on the 1918 absent voters.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:47 pm    Post subject: Mount Pleasant Row Reply with quote

I have quite a lot of info on Mary Davies's family. Her mother was Ruth Davies nee Lloyd (1842-1918) and after William Davies's death in 1873 she married John Cobbett. Her family was from Llanhilleth up by the Old Church and goes back quite a while up there - certainly well into the eighteenth century. One of her granddaughters by Mary Davies's sister Elizabeth was called Sarah(Sal) Evans nee Roberts and lived in the end house of Mt Pleasant Row towards Cwmtillery. I knew Auntie Sal very well and went to the house many times. She often talked about Ruth Lloyd.


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